The GTP Unofficial 2020 US Elections Thread

GTPlanet Exit Poll - Which Presidential Ticket Did You Vote For?

  • Trump/Pence

    Votes: 16 27.1%

  • Biden/Harris

    Votes: 20 33.9%

  • Jorgensen/Cohen

    Votes: 7 11.9%

  • Hawkins/Walker

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • La Riva/Freeman

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • De La Fuente/Richardson

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Blankenship/Mohr

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Carroll/Patel

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Simmons/Roze

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Charles/Wallace

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 15 25.4%
  • Total voters
    59
  • Poll closed .
I just slept 3 hours guys, and not sure what to conclude here. Who is on path to win, Trump or USA ?

All I know so far is that decency is already lost:
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This has been a more stressful election night than I ever remember it to be. Sigh.
 
Just listened to David Frum ("establishment Republican") on the CBC making two pertinent comments:
1) Given the likelihood of a close vote, Trump will go to the courts tomorrow (the ones he has packed over the last 3 years - including the SCOTUS) to try & block late vote counting.
2) The GOP needed a clear Trump defeat to put it back on track as a conventional conservative party. He says Republicans have made a deal with Trump to abandon their principles of constitutional conservatism, fiscal responsibility, free trade & international leadership in order to gain political control & some of their favoured policies - ie. tax cuts.
 
Crash
This has been a more stressful election night than I ever remember it to be. Sigh.
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We know that with EC Trump can always win, even if not very easily. I guess a lot of people underestimated him and EC advantage in 2016. Not so this time, at least I didn’t. So yeah, I’m not stressed, but will be disappointed even more than 4 years ago if he wins.
 
Milouse
I just slept 3 hours guys, and not sure what to conclude here. Who is on path to win, Trump or USA ?

All I know so far is that decency is already lost:
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True, but it's going to be a lot closer than what the current numbers suggest. For example, Richland County where the state capitol Columbia is hasn't even reported 1% yet and it'll lean for Harrison. Same with Greenville, and several other blue counties which aren't done counting yet. I don't think there is 240,000 votes to gain but the gap will be smaller than current.
 
I project that Trump wins...Wisconsin. Green Bay is reporting 45% and Trump is taking 58% of that. Yikes.

Biden is down 300,000 votes in MI and is only taking the Detroit area by 55%. More yikes.
 
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Trump has been silent on twitter.
If he were in the lead he would be bragging about how he was always going to win
 
Grayfox
Trump has been silent on twitter.
If he were in the lead he would be bragging about how he was always going to win
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Nah, being quiet is part of the strategy. He's probably drunk off his ass at the White House right now.
 
What's clear is that the polls again undercounted the Trump vote. That's the case in Florida, North Carolina, Georgia, Iowa, Ohio & Texas. It remains to be seen how Michigan, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania end up, but it's likely they will be much closer than the polls suggested.

So far, it is very reminiscent of 2016.
 
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huskeR32
Who said anything about polls? All I see is discussion of actual results.
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@Danoff was talking about, how I interpreted it, GA was gonna go Biden from some poll.

I got mocked about bumper stickers, when I was actually talking about signs.

And then I see a post like people are surprised GA went Red...

It's kinda funny to me. I tell y'all and y'all just brush me away and think I'm dumb...

Edit: And I've already expressed my views on the stupid polls.
 
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huskeR32
Who was surprised? The post you responded to said, simply, "Georgia just went into the red." That's just an observation. I think you read more into it because you wanted to grind that old axe of yours.
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Gotta keep her sharp. ;)
 
Biggles
What's clear is that the polls again undercounted the Trump vote. That's the case in Florida, North Carolina, Georgia, Iowa, Ohio & Texas. It remains to be seen how Michigan, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania end up, but it's likely they will be much closer than the polls suggested.

So far, it is very reminiscent of 2016.
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They didn't factor in vehement hypernationalism which is a vicious disease like 28 Days Later or something.

I'm giving Michigan and Wisconsin to Trump. Damn. My bet is he wins 274-264.

Edit: NYT has a "shift from 2016" map and it clearly shows that a lot of rural America moved further toward Trump. These hypernationalists are digging in their heels.
 
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Biggles
What's clear is that the polls again undercounted the Trump vote. That's the case in Florida, North Carolina, Georgia, Iowa, Ohio & Texas. It remains to be seen how Michigan, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania end up, but it's likely they will be much closer than the polls suggested.
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I read something about a week ago where one of the heads of one of the pollsters was saying that if they screwed up by anywhere near as much of a margin as they did in 2016, the public trust will be so disastrous against them that they might as well not bother doing it in 2024 and voting will enter an age where basically no one has any idea what's going to happen. Even if Biden still wins I can't imagine that won't happen at this point.
 
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Keef
They didn't factor in vehement hypernationalism which is a vicious disease like 28 Days Later or something.

I'm giving Michigan and Wisconsin to Trump. Damn. My bet is he wins 274-264.

Edit: NYT has a "shift from 2016" map and it clearly shows that a lot of rural America moved further toward Trump. These hypernationalists are digging in their heels.
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I think it's the "undercounted" Trump voter, which is to say (I'm guessing) that voter turnout is going to be much higher in rural counties than it has been in the past, because those rural voters identify (somewhat oddly) with Trump. Balancing that is a shift of suburban voters to the Democrats. The remaining question is the African American turnout & how white blue colour voters go in Michigan, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania.
 
Still completely up in the air IMO. There are still a lot of uncounted votes in Michigan, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania that are in overwhelmingly Democrat areas.

However, Trump has already tweeted that Democrats are trying to "steal" the election by continuing to count votes. Twitter has flagged his tweet as "misinformation".
 
My new guess gives WI, MI, and PA to Trump yet again. 294-244. We won't know for sure until at least tomorrow night. NC is actually still in play which is wild to me but whatever.

EDIT: If Biden wins NC and WI they'll tie at 269.
 
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A lot of democratic vote in WI, MI, PA, and GA hasn’t been counted yet as far as I understand. That’s why some places look like they are going heavy Trump and why popular vote is so close.
 
Looks like Nebraska is going to split its vote for just the second time. So far, of all the projections that have come in, NE-1 is the only flipped vote from 2016.
 
Democrats choose another old, career politician from DC. Again.

Didn't work in 2016 and isn't working now. They cannot be surprised or shocked if Biden loses.
 
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