The GTP Unofficial 2020 US Elections Thread

[Populuxe]

Metal detectors put in place outside the House floor after the Capitol attack. And now...

She is really trying hard for the title of "Dumbest Person in Congress."

 

[McLaren]

I'm guessing she's going to argue it's against her 2A rights whilst every sane person asked this question the first time it made news. Why do you need a gun in Congress?

Now devil's advocate, she could have a strong argument given how the nutjobs got in previously & she doesn't feel safe with Capitol police. However, that argument dies the instant we all remember she's a Trumper who wants to block Biden's election; MAGA was never coming to harm her.

 

[Blitz24]

I'm guessing she's going to argue it's against her 2A rights whilst every sane person asked this question the first time it made news. Why do you need a gun in Congress?

Now devil's advocate, she could have a strong argument given how the nutjobs got in previously & she doesn't feel safe with Capitol police. However, that argument dies the instant we all remember she's a Trumper who wants to block Biden's election; MAGA was never coming to harm her.

They aren't the brightest bunch.
Gohmert stated "you can't stop me; I'm on my way to a vote!" and walked around the screener.

Stivers believes the metal detector is unconstitutional.

In unrelated news, Rep. Stivers was clearly not at the Capitol last week and has never heard of mass shooting incidents occurring in the US so frequently over the past two decades.

 

[ryzno]

Why do you need a gun in Congress?

Doesn't what happened last week answer your question?

 

[TheHun99]

Doesn't what happened last week answer your question?

They attacked because of politicians like her, let’s be very clear on that.

 

[NotThePrez]

Doesn't what happened last week answer your question?

I'd say that's indicative of a more significant problem, a problem that she is not helping with by effectively throwing a tantrum.

 

[Joey D]

I think there's a pretty good reason why Congresspeople shouldn't have guns on the floor. In the House last week two Congressmen almost broke out into a fistfight over something. Emotions are often high and one person who's completely unhinged, and let's be real there are several unhinged people in Congress, and they could very well shoot someone.

What the Capitol needs is a proper defense in the way of an adequate law enforcement body. Look around the world, most places of government are protected by some sort of military-like personnel. At the Capitol, we have what are effectively police officers with .45 sidearms and that's about it. Make it a prestigious post and have the Marines or someone fill it.

 

[TexRex]

Certified satire-free.

Jake "QAnon Shaman" Angeli (real name Jacob Anthony Chansley), the dip**** with the horns in the Capitol raid, refuses to eat food provided while in US Marshall custody unless that food is organic because, per the 33-year-old's mommy, food that isn't organic gives him a tummy ache.

 

[McLaren]

Doesn't what happened last week answer your question?

I think you missed on why I said, "the first time it was asked". She was claiming she bringing a gun into the Capitol before the event went down, which is when people were asking why.

Even then, as I also said, she has no reason to bring a gun after the protest; those people were there because of her rhetoric.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Doesn't what happened last week answer your question?

Yeah. You want to give Diane Feinstein an FN FAL while we're at it? I'm pretty sure our destiny is to become what Mike Judge predicted

 

[Milouse]

Perfectly good people waiting for their flight.
Language warning. NSFW

Spoiler

They won't stop. Why would they?

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

"THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY!!!"

"WE THE PEOPLE!!!!"

 

[McLaren]

Yeah. You want to give Diane Feinstein an FN FAL while we're at it? I'm pretty sure our destiny is to become what Mike Judge predicted

How dare you question the greatness of President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

How dare you question the greatness of President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.

We're running out of french fries and burrito coverings!

 

[jjaisli]

Perfectly good people waiting for their flight.
Language warning. NSFW

Spoiler

They won't stop. Why would they?

A perfect demonstration of why they are NOT patriots. They (somewhat) understand their right to free speech, are a bit misguided on the right to assembly. And they pretty much got everything else wrong. A pathetic display of ignorance.

 

[Scaff]

Mum throws teen-Lesbian daughter out for attending peaceful BLM march, then complains when she turns her (and others) in for taking part in and attacking people the night before the 6th.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/01/lesbian-teen-got-kicked-family-turns-possible-maga-rioters/

 

[TheHun99]

A perfect demonstration of why they are NOT patriots. They (somewhat) understand their right to free speech, are a bit misguided on the right to assembly. And they pretty much got everything else wrong. A pathetic display of ignorance.

For these people the constitution is 1A (that they don’t quite understand) and 2A, that’s it. The rest what they understand consists of QAnon, MAGA and Trump.

All the while they claim to be believing in God and ignore the women’s rights to decide what to do with their own body while fervently defending their own individual rights (as they claim) including carrying guns to kill anyone they don’t like. Hypocrisy at the highest level.

 

[Tornado]

Really just the Second Amendment, if we're being honest.

 

[UKMikey]

Certified satire-free.

Jake "QAnon Shaman" Angeli (real name Jacob Anthony Chansley), the dip**** with the horns in the Capitol raid, refuses to eat food provided while in US Marshall custody unless that food is organic because, per the 33-year-old's mommy, food that isn't organic gives him a tummy ache.

This has been mentioned on the meme thread.

They knuckled under and gave him the food he wanted as per a judge's order.

https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-shaman-organic-diet-jake-angeli-1560754

 

[TexRex]

Really just the Second Amendment, if we're being honest.

I mean...no, they appreciate free speech and free exercise as applied to them, but they would and do deny others those rights without hesitation, and the Establishment Clause may as well be in Sanskrit.

 

[Famine]

This has been mentioned on the meme thread.

They knuckled under and gave him the food he wanted as per a judge's order.

https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-shaman-organic-diet-jake-angeli-1560754

He's in federal custody, so they're required to provide a diet according to special requirements under 8A, subject to 1A. All that's necessary from the prisoner is to prove that their diet comes from sincerely held religious beliefs, or beliefs that are religious in nature (without any need for it to be a mainstream religion or even require a deity).

 

[PzR Slim]

Perfectly good people waiting for their flight.
Language warning. NSFW

Spoiler

They won't stop. Why would they?

That genuinely shocked me. The US has got a huge problem that needs dealing with. This is going to take generations to recover from. Unbelievable the damage Trump has done to the country.

 

[Tornado]

I mean...no, they appreciate free speech and free exercise as applied to them, but they would and do deny others those rights without hesitation, and the Establishment Clause may as well be in Sanskrit.

I think that's a big enough "but" that it overrides any actual recognition of the first. They understand the second, and they understand the second gives them power to shoot their mouth off as a group, and it's merely a happy accident that they actually have that ability under the first regardless because they can go "muh freedoms" as soon as anyone tries to talk back to them.

 

[Keef]

New York City has decided to cancel contracts with Trump organizations, from which they profited about $17 million per year.

 

[UKMikey]

He's in federal custody, so they're required to provide a diet according to special requirements under 8A, subject to 1A. All that's necessary from the prisoner is to prove that their diet comes from sincerely held religious beliefs, or beliefs that are religious in nature (without any need for it to be a mainstream religion or even require a deity).

Is Gitmo covered by the eighth amendment? If so, then I hope these complaints are unfounded:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisett...by-chaplain-it-is-what-it-is/?sh=334d840d6cc5

 

[TexRex]

I have the nagging suspicion another Trump pick is about to be called out as a never-Trumper.

Trump’s pick for U.S. attorney in Georgia dismisses election fraud claims: ‘There’s just nothing to them’

"Quite frankly, just watching television you would assume that you got election cases stacked from the floor to the ceiling. I am so happy to find out that's not the case, but I didn’t know coming in."

The acting U.S. attorney for Northern Georgia, who was named after his predecessor reportedly angered President Trump for not finding election fraud, told staffers in a conference call Monday that he dismissed two election fraud cases on his first day.

“I would love to stand out on the street corner and scream this, and I can’t,” said Bobby Christine, according to an audio recording of the call obtained by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

“But I can tell you I closed the two most — I don’t know, I guess you’d call them high profile or the two most pressing election issues this office has,” he said. “I said I believe, as many of the people around the table believed, there’s just nothing to them.”

Christine also said he found fewer election-related investigations in the office than he expected.

“Quite frankly, just watching television you would assume that you got election cases stacked from the floor to the ceiling,” said Christine. “I am so happy to find out that’s not the case, but I didn’t know coming in.”

Christine declined to comment on the call when contacted by the AJC Tuesday.

Former U.S. Attorney Byung J. “BJay” Pak, a Republican who had served since 2017, had planned to remain through the end of the Trump administration but resigned abruptly Jan. 4. Over the weekend, The Wall Street Journal reported the White House forced Pak to resign because Trump believed he was not being aggressive enough in investigating allegations of election fraud.

In a call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger two days before Pak’s resignation, Trump disparaged Pak as a “never Trumper U.S. attorney.”

Christine, the U.S. attorney for Georgia’s Southern District, was appointed to replace him. The appointment bypassed the number two prosecutor in the office, Kurt Erskine, and raised fears of political interference as Trump was waging a campaign to overturn the results of the election.

Christine apparently convened the conference call to reassure federal lawyers in the Northern District office — most of whom are working remotely — that he was not pushing what Justice Department officials have called baseless claims of election fraud in President-Elect Joe Biden’s victory in Georgia. Yet the questions from staff attorneys revealed deep suspicions and fears of political interference.

“Can you walk us through what happened when you were offered this position? Was it a call from the (Deputy Attorney General’s) office, was it the acting Attorney General?” one lawyer on the call asked. “I think we are entitled to know what specifically was conveyed to you from either the White House or main Justice leadership.”

Attorneys asked and re-asked why First Assistant U.S. Attorney Erskine had not been appointed as Pak’s replacement during the transition.

“Many of us have been through multiple administrations, and almost always the FAUSA takes over,” one lawyer on the call said.

“I don’t think that’s a question I’m going to get into,” Christine said. “I appreciate you asking it; I empathize for why you would ask it, but I’m not going to get into that.”

Former federal prosecutor Buddy Parker spent 19 years in the Department of Justice, much of that time working in the Northern District of Georgia, and he said the abrupt resignation of Pak and appointment of Christine was a blow to the credibility of the office.

“I have never observed or heard of such an event as what happened last Monday week,” he said.

Referring to the reporting of the Wall Street Journal and others, Parker said it was outrageous for a White House to force the resignation of United States attorney and appoint someone from another district to force action on a political matter.

“It’s beyond very disruptive,” he said. “To me, it’s just a culture of fear of being created in the office.”

When a U.S. attorney resigns, Parker said the first assistant attorney always takes over in an acting capacity. It is extremely unusual for a U.S. attorney from another district to be appointed, he said.

When Pak resigned and Christine was appointed, Parker said he called contacts in Savannah who described Christine as “absolutely devoted to Trump.”

“He takes orders and executes orders. He also has great ambition, according to people I talked to down in Savannah,” he said.

In September, Christine contributed $2,800 to Trump’s reelection campaign, the maximum allowable individual contribution.

Pak also contributed to a number of Republican candidates and committees over the years, but he did not contribute to Trump and has made no political contributions since his appointment in 2017.

In 30 minutes of introductory remarks, Christine flattered the staff and attempted to reassure them he was there to “do no harm.” Christine was appointed by Trump in 2017 to head Georgia’s Southern District, a position he retains while also serving as acting U.S. attorney in the northern half of the state.

Christine said he didn’t “race” to Atlanta to assume the position, arriving last Wednesday, partly in deference to his friendship and respect for Pak.

“I also knew we had an election going on Tuesday and I didn’t want my arrival to distract any leadership in our office or in the federal agencies,” he said.

“I’m not coming up here to be an election lawyer,” he said. “I’m not coming here for that purpose.”

Christine said the Northern District office was “running like a sewing machine,” but that description only prompted more questions from staff as to why he decided to bring two lawyers skilled in election law from the more thinly staffed Southern District.

Christine said he brought the two election attorneys to help with what he assumed was a “dump truck full” of election files, but instead found “very, very few.”

Even so, Christine met with the FBI, GBI and the Department of Homeland Security on his first day in Atlanta to get briefed on election cases, he said. So far, Christine said the election cases were overblown, and cited the two cases he closed last Wednesday.

“In my opinion, there is no there, there,” he said.

When asked by a staff attorney, Christine described such issues as “well-intentioned” complaints of receiving two ballots. “‘That may actually be a well-intentioned person who received an application for a ballot and then the ballot itself,” he said.

“We don’t have these huge colossal issues that if you turn on the TV you’d think it’d be,” he said. “Some of them might be threatening emails that come from an IP address that actually might lead us right back to the complainant, right? So election issues are more than just what we hear about on TV. You all know that better than I do.”

Christine also revealed that he has contracted to bring in a third outside lawyer: Miles M. “Matt” Hart, a former prosecutor from the Northern District of Alabama with history of prosecuting government corruption and white collar crimes.

Christine said he hired Hart because of his history dealing with public corruption cases and alluded to something big in the Northern District.

“I am not experienced in public corruption, and it is my understanding that there is a colossal public corruption series of cases in the office and a well-staffed team that are working those issues,” he said. “BJay made me aware, Kurt’s given me more information, and I expect we’ll learn more.”

Christine was pushed as to whether he would resign on Jan. 20, as Pak had planned. He said he wouldn’t “be dragged out of here by my heels,” but he repeatedly hedged on his future plans.

“I simply don’t know how long that will be. Is it one day? Is it one week? Is it one year? I don’t know,” he said. “I assume it’s shorter rather than longer, but I don’t know.”

 

[Famine]

Is Gitmo covered by the eighth amendment? If so, then I hope these complaints are unfounded

Yes and no, but mainly no. Non-US citizen detainees there do not have any constitutionally guaranteed freedoms, because they're not "We the People of the United States".

 

[Brett]

Yeah. You want to give Diane Feinstein an FN FAL while we're at it? I'm pretty sure our destiny is to become what Mike Judge predicted

I could go for some Brawndo.

 

[Populuxe]

I could go for some Brawndo.

Sadly the Brawndo.com website is no longer active, but for a while, you could actually buy Brawndo. It was made by a company called Omni Consumer Products (sound familiar? It's the megacoporation in Robocop.) Omni also licensed and sold Sex Panther, the fake cologne from Anchorman.

 

[UKMikey]