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GTPlanet Exit Poll - Which Presidential Ticket Did You Vote For?

  • Trump/Pence

    Votes: 16 27.1%
  • Biden/Harris

    Votes: 20 33.9%
  • Jorgensen/Cohen

    Votes: 7 11.9%
  • Hawkins/Walker

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • La Riva/Freeman

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • De La Fuente/Richardson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Blankenship/Mohr

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Carroll/Patel

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Simmons/Roze

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Charles/Wallace

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 15 25.4%

  • Total voters
    59
  • Poll closed .
Who cares? I don't care. I am not defending them, I even called them thugs.

It's probably worth caring since the President's comment was seen as an endorsement by the Proud Boys. Obviously, on some level, he spoke to them and they feel like the President supported them. That's pretty worrying. Whether Trump actually supports the Proud Boys or not, I'm not sure, but if they think he does then he didn't make his position very clear. Also, that sort of thinking will only embolden them to do whatever it is they want to do.
 
Highlighting someone or something for being terrible or hypocritical or whatever is not cancel culture in any way.

What I feel @huskeR32 was doing was putting these... people under the lens of the first amendment; you can believe in what you want but you are not free from consequences of those beliefs, i.e. what others think of it and of you.

Not dey took er free speech. Not even close.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Yeah, based on that article it's business as usual

GOP House leader Kevin McCarthy insisted Trump did agree when asked if he would condemn the groups, and the California Republican sought to equate the white nationalist groups and the KKK with extremists like antifa.

GOP Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D., went only so far as to say, “I was hoping for more clarity.”

Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina, the only Black Republican in the Senate, said he believed Trump “misspoke.”

“He should correct it,” Scott added. “If he doesn’t correct it I guess he didn’t misspeak.”
 
Why is Trump disavowing white nationalists? Am I missing something? They are a huge part of his base - really they are his base. His entire platform is basically white nationalism.
 
Texas Governor Greg Abbot (R) has ordered the removal of most mail-in voting drop-off locations, limits drop-off locations to one per county. He has also allowed the presence of poll watchers at each location.

Keep in mind that Texas is the 2nd most populous state in the US, has (according to the BBC article) the 2nd highest amount of rural area in the US, and has voted Republican in every election since the mid-70s. A state that shouldn't be a worry for the Republicans is being subject to actual voter supression.

I'm both curious and frightened to see what crap DeSantis pulls here.
 
Texas Governor Greg Abbot (R) has ordered the removal of most mail-in voting drop-off locations, limits drop-off locations to one per county. He has also allowed the presence of poll watchers at each location.

Keep in mind that Texas is the 2nd most populous state in the US, has (according to the BBC article) the 2nd highest amount of rural area in the US, and has voted Republican in every election since the mid-70s. A state that shouldn't be a worry for the Republicans is being subject to actual voter supression.

I'm both curious and frightened to see what crap DeSantis pulls here.

Harris county is home to 4 million people. They'll now have one drop-off location. For four million people.

This is blatant voter suppression. They're doing it right in front of everybody.
 
Harris county is home to 4 million people. They'll now have one drop-off location. For four million people.

This is blatant voter suppression. They're doing it right in front of everybody.

I like how he also cites COVID-19 as an additional reason for the change. What better way to stave off the pandemic by having a whole lotta people show up to one specific location to vote! /s Never mind the logistical and traffic-conflicted cluster:censored: that'll cause.

I genuinely hate how these "leaders" are treating their people like disposable idiots.
 
Harris + Dallas + Bexar + Travis county = ~11 million people - a third of the state. 4 mail boxes for eleven-million people.

Oh they also happen to be the most reliably blue counties in the state.

This is why we need an authoritarian president. Because of the unrest that disenfranchisement causes. [/s]
 
Harris + Dallas + Bexar + Travis county = ~11 million people - a third of the state. 4 mail boxes for eleven-million people.

Oh they also happen to be the most reliably blue counties in the state.
Who needs gerrymandering when you have idiots basically making it impossible to vote by mail?
 
Who needs gerrymandering when you have idiots basically making it impossible to vote by mail?

Ok well technically you don't have to use the drop box to vote by mail. You can just mail it. These would (I assume) be drop boxes for in case you don't want to mail it. I personally don't like to send my ballots back through the mail and like to put them directly into a ballot drop box. But it seems that won't be a convenient option for a lot of texans.
 
Texas Governor Greg Abbot (R) has ordered the removal of most mail-in voting drop-off locations, limits drop-off locations to one per county. He has also allowed the presence of poll watchers at each location.

Keep in mind that Texas is the 2nd most populous state in the US, has (according to the BBC article) the 2nd highest amount of rural area in the US, and has voted Republican in every election since the mid-70s. A state that shouldn't be a worry for the Republicans is being subject to actual voter supression.

I'm both curious and frightened to see what crap DeSantis pulls here.
Harris + Dallas + Bexar + Travis county = ~11 million people - a third of the state. 4 mail boxes for eleven-million people.

Oh they also happen to be the most reliably blue counties in the state.
They're scared is all I can assume. Dallas & Travis county are full of liberals and there's been a growing feeling of liberal support to push Texas purple more than ever. In 2016, the Republican votes tailored out to 52%. That's the closest it's been down near a middle ground since 1996 at 49%. From 2004 to now, it's been 61%, 56%, 57%, & the mentioned 52%.

This doesn't necessarily mean the Democrats are close to taking over as 2016 saw 43% of the votes were Dem (they normally averaged that since 2008 at 44%, 41%, 43%). But, the increase in registered votes seems to point towards change. Rep. increase in '16 from '12: 129,248. Dem. increase: 583,428.

Edit* This is from a user on Reddit and makes some sense. Abbott has been in hot water trying to play middle ground since the Covid outbreak, so it may not be a surprise he's under pressure from within' the state.
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It's an absolutely hypocritical executive order, since the 5th Circuit ruled that rules changes this close to the election should not be made, but it's also a side effect from a raging civil war within the TX GOP.

Abbott is basically running scared from his hard right flank, which is already suing Abbott for issuing an executive order that:

1) Extends early voting by 6 days, which brought the first day of Early Voting forward from October 19 to October 13.

2) Allows voters to return absente ballots in person to their Elections Administrator's office at any point leading up to the election.

Both of these moves were made to help spread out voters and prevent COVID-19 rates from growing. At the time Abbott made the EO to allow the two election expansions, Texas was experiencing a massive COVID up-wave.

The far right, which has been rabidly furious with Greg Abbott for taking COVID-19 even minimally seriously, has sued and sued and sued his pants off. I really can't emphasize enough how much they openly hate him right now - QAnon and anti-vaxxer enthusiast Allen West was overwhelmingly elected TX GOP Chairman on a stridently anti-Abbott and anti-mask platform. Several sitting State Senators and State Reps have disavowed him and said they won't listen to him anymore. Hell, even 6 County GOP chapters voted to censure him for his decisions to shut down bars (a shutdown that could easily be bypassed, btw).

Now, regarding the executive order, Abbott's justification for closing the remote dropoff sites is the usual 'Voter Fraud' ********. What is interesting about it is that the language in the Executive Order is almost copy-pasted word for word from the lawsuit that the far right is using to end the extended Early Voting and absentee drop off timeline. He is actively capitulating to the angriest conspiracy theorists in the party, which, in Texas GOP land, is just another Thursday.

Now, that said, given how many crazy lawsuits and EO's that have been thrown around since June, it's important for Texans to know which rules are cemented in place, which rules are under threat pending lawsuits, and which rules have been eliminated or disallowed:

Early In Person Voting
  • October 19-30 will not be touched. You will always be able to vote during these times, per state law
  • The state may not unilaterally close Early Voting sites. Only counties may do this, per state law
  • October 13-18 is at risk pending a case brought before the TX Supreme Court courtesy of said far right *******s.
Absentee Ballot Returns
  • Original law says that hand delivery is only allowed on Election Day (Nov. 3) at the Election Administrator's Office
  • Abbott's July EO allows voters to drop off ballots to their county Elections Admin office at any time in person, assuming the office is open
  • Extra drop off sites aren't allowed by law, but unlike most counties, Harris & Travis County elections are run by their Clerks' Offices, and those clerk offices usually have satellite offices throughout the county. The remote sites are all located at the clerks' satellite offices. This is what Abbott is shutting down. If you aren't registered in Travis or Harris counties, your county already isn't allowed to open remote drop off sites.
Straight Party Ticket Voting
  • This was outlawed in 2019 by the GOP-controlled legislature
  • Democratic-backed groups successfully received a favorable ruling from a US District Court judge, only to be overturned by the 5th Circuit a few days later
  • As of now, straight party voting won't be on the ballot
Online Voter Registration
  • Not allowed under TX Law
  • However, the Secretary of State's Office must now comply with a Federal Judge's ruling that Texans who update their driver's licenses addresses online must also have their registrations updated online as well.
 
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They're scared is all I can assume. Dallas & Travis county are full of liberals and there's been a growing feeling of liberal support to push Texas purple more than ever. In 2016, the Republican votes tailored out to 52%. That's the closest it's been down near a middle ground since 1996 at 49%. From 2004 to now, it's been 61%, 56%, 57%, & the mentioned 52%.

This doesn't necessarily mean the Democrats are close to taking over as 2016 saw 43% of the votes were Dem (they normally averaged that since 2008 at 44%, 41%, 43%). But, the increase in registered votes seems to point towards change. Rep. increase in '16 from '12: 129,248. Dem. increase: 583,428.

Edit* This is from a user on Reddit and makes some sense. Abbott has been in hot water trying to play middle ground since the Covid outbreak, so it may not be a surprise he's under pressure from within' the state.

I'm very, very interested to see what the counties surrounding Dallas do in 2020. I grew up in Ellis and I'm fairly confident it will remain red. It really hasn't changed much. Same with Navarro, Kaufman & Johnson I believe.

Decision-2016-NTX-County-Map-V11.jpg


But Rockwall, Denton, Tarrant and especially Collin (that's 4 million people) - they all seem absolutely in play due to their rapid suburbanization. I'm out of the Texas loop by about 5 years now, but it sure seems like cities like Plano, Flowermound, Denton, Fort Worth, NRH, Southlake, Arlington etc, would have a lot of people who regard Trump dubiously at best. Put another way, there are a lot of white suburban women in those counties
 
Who cares? I don't care. I am not defending them, I even called them thugs.
They may be bigots, but they aren't racists.
look I'm not going to not be intolerant to your views, but feel free to tell me where you get your YouTube media from(no inherent predujudce intendent)
 
Put another way, there are a lot of white suburban women in those counties
And unfortunately there are a lot of white suburban women who apparently suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.

There are a lot of suburban minorities in those counties as well and frankly I think they're the only ones who would vote democrat. I'm not sure what the districting of these counties looks like but I'm sure the urban centers themselves, especially Fort Worth and Arlington, will be blue but the counties will likely still end up red. We have a similar problem here in Montgomery County OH. Dayton's urban districts just aren't big enough to dominate the county which is about 1/3 rural geographically but like 9/10 urban and suburban demographically.

Texas Governor Greg Abbot (R) has ordered the removal of most mail-in voting drop-off locations, limits drop-off locations to one per county. He has also allowed the presence of poll watchers at each location.

Keep in mind that Texas is the 2nd most populous state in the US, has (according to the BBC article) the 2nd highest amount of rural area in the US, and has voted Republican in every election since the mid-70s. A state that shouldn't be a worry for the Republicans is being subject to actual voter supression.

I'm both curious and frightened to see what crap DeSantis pulls here.
Fortunately, according to 538, and of course if the polls are even remotely accurate, Biden currently doesn't need Texas (or Ohio, or Florida) to win.
 
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Harris + Dallas + Bexar + Travis county = ~11 million people - a third of the state. 4 mail boxes for eleven-million people.
Or, since they are mail in ballots, they could, I don't know, let's see... Just mail them in!


look I'm not going to not be intolerant to your views, but feel free to tell me where you get your YouTube media from(no inherent predujudce intendent)
Not sure what you mean.

But, I follow 107 channels on YouTube. Many are food, but a lot are political, and they range from The Young Turks, to Paul Joseph Watson.

My favorite political channels are Mark Dice, and Daily Wire associated channels, like Ben Shapiro and Michael Knowles.
 

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