The Human Comedy 8 - Gr.3 Lake Maggiore
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Used the Hyundai Genesis on RM with a 2 stop strategy.
Fastest lap was a 1:56:455 but generally ran 1:58s on average.
I'd finished the race twice before after leading for the majority but then my strategy for the 2nd stop in particular saw me drop off to 8th the first time then 4th.
With that knowledge in mind, I got to first by the end of lap 2. (If I couldn't get to first before lead car Yamanaka reaches a 4 second lead I restarted - 4 seconds felt insurmountable unless you are consistently lapping 1:56s which I wasn't).
After taking first I obviously tried my best to stretch the lead but I couldnt shake Rubilar and Beauvois; it wasn't an issue as I knew that as long as I was ahead, I could hold them off.
At pit stop 1 I had been refuelling for 10.5 laps - which allowed me to leave the pits early (giving me about an 8 second lead) but Rubilar and Beauvois would reduce that to a second or two by pit-stop 2 where I'd need a full 10 laps of fuel but they would only need 7, thereby giving them the headstart over me by the end of the 2nd pit stop - no matter how quick I lapped, I couldn't reel them in.
This time, I filled up more than 10 laps at pit stop 1 (roughly 12-13 laps), but still ensured I left the pits earlier than them so that I was ahead of them.
I quickly cleared the backmarkers and got to P1 again around lap 18. I started fuel saving (Fuel Map 4) at this stage - I had about a 3.5 second gap over Beauvois and allowed Beauvois to reduce that to around 1 second knowing that I'd need to take on less fuel than he would. I was under intense pressure from Beauvois but as long as I was ahead of him, I could hold him off. This allowed me to go in to pit stop 2 only needing 4, maybe 5 laps of fuel, while they, particularly Beauvois as the main threat at this juncture, needed around 7 laps worth.
I came out of pit stop 2 with a 3 second lap, plus some backmarker traffic for Beauvois to fight through, and as I've said all along, if I'm ahead of them - I can hold them off which I did.
During the end game Gallo's NSX became a major player - it was a real fight to hold him off (0.5 seconds behind me all lap for 6 laps) - I normally open up a second or so on trailing cars through the high-speed S section in sector 2 but Gallo was matching me; however, as the pack tightened Beauvois came back into the race for the last 2 laps and closed out Gallo for me. I had to hold off Beauvois for a lap and a half which I did and won by 0.407 seconds.
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I decided to try an 11 lap stint 1 for these type of fuel issues. Everyone else would put on lap 10 so I figured I could stretch out my fuel for one more lap and avoid the traffic. It was a gamble because the tires were pretty ragged and I lost time, but with no traffic and knowing I was saving fuel later, it was worth the risk. Then 10 more laps (or maybe 11?) and then the last pit would need less fuel, and more importantly my tires were fresher than everyone else’s. I was able to catch up with Rubilar and Beauvois because of my tires, so the gamble paid off.
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I did a 2 stop RM/RH mixed strat, but i'm eager to try the 2 stop RM and the 1 stop RH strat. Just looking for the best car for those strats (outside of the hyundai)
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I will continue to play this, even though it doesn't pay out.
It's the ultimate test in GT7 I think (for me). It combines the lessons learnt from the license tests with the test of composure and consistency required for an endurance event, coupling skills attained from the missions like pedal to the metal mixed classed Overtaking without mistakes or crashes/corner cutting. There's the pit strategy aswell. Wasn't a case of just going in and filling up as I did that twice and failed from winning positions. The strategy won it in the end, combined with the other skills drawn upon and lessons learnt.
Importantly it engages you to the end. Its all too easy to breeze past the back markers and then win an uncontested race; this keeps you honest until the end. That's thrilling in its own right and not easily achieved in gaming hence online is where most flock too.
Very good event.
It's the ultimate test in GT7 I think (for me). It combines the lessons learnt from the license tests with the test of composure and consistency required for an endurance event, coupling skills attained from the missions like pedal to the metal mixed classed Overtaking without mistakes or crashes/corner cutting. There's the pit strategy aswell. Wasn't a case of just going in and filling up as I did that twice and failed from winning positions. The strategy won it in the end, combined with the other skills drawn upon and lessons learnt.
Importantly it engages you to the end. Its all too easy to breeze past the back markers and then win an uncontested race; this keeps you honest until the end. That's thrilling in its own right and not easily achieved in gaming hence online is where most flock too.
Very good event.
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I think the 911 RSR has potential - its pace can be felt from the opening straight the race starts on, back has a welcome tendency to slide out when cornering (like you can throw the car into corners and kinda skid out of them).
If I wasn't so used to the Genesis (lines, turn in etc), I really liked the way the Porsche handled. The Corvette has notable pace and control too.
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Literally impossible race. One mistake and you're done. I've tried pretty much every Gr3 car in the game. Having to race on TC0 to even have a chance and then having ramming cars hitting you which ultimately makes you spin out at turns is ridiculous. Beauvois and Rubilar are doing times that are not attainable with their "BOP" cars.
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I'm going to post my spreadsheet in another thread, but I wanted to give you a heads up. Unfortunately, the update next week will probably make it irrelevant . . .let's see this spreadsheet
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Did it last week. With unusual 2 stop strategy.
Used somewhat average AMG GT3 with RM/RH/RM of 8/14/8 laps stints, no need to save fuel, but you can save a bit more time with it as only half tank needed to fill on 1st pit in. Also lucky with less traffic around me. Won by 8s with few minor mistakes in last few laps.
Used somewhat average AMG GT3 with RM/RH/RM of 8/14/8 laps stints, no need to save fuel, but you can save a bit more time with it as only half tank needed to fill on 1st pit in. Also lucky with less traffic around me. Won by 8s with few minor mistakes in last few laps.
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The Porsche feels very light and is amazing under braking… you can really brake late and gain positions that way early. The back end slide makes it quick too… but it’s Achilles for me is tire wear with that sliding. I am pretty sure in a one lap TT I could get fastest times with the 911 but it becomes a handful after 7 laps. The way I was driving it the tire wear more than offset the advantages so I moved to another car. Maybe better for a different driving style.
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Nice man - Judging by your times and victories with various cars in this event, definitely value your opinion on the options.
I based my opinion on limited experience really; when I was struggling to get comfortable with a car, I cycled through a number of Gr.3 cars and the Porsche felt very nimble as we've concluded without sacrificing power on the straights like, say, the BRZ.
I must confess, I didn't take it deep with the Porsche to gauge tyre wear and consumption as it was early into my experience with this event where my best times were more 1.59 rather than 1.56-1.57. I think I could be competitive with the Porsche but the tyre wear point you make sounds logical as its lovely to swing the back round the corners in it.
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It could be a good candidate for a three-stop strategy. Maybe go 8-8-8-6 laps and change to fresh tires.
I’d love to try more of these strategies. This is a great event, but probably not worth the headache after the first gold. I wish it continued to pay for running it after the first time.
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If you're finding it makes that much difference, you're steering too much with TC1. I can consistently lap in the 1:57s with either TC0 or TC1 with the Aston Martin.
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Yes, if it paid out 1.5m every time you win it like the 60 minute Spa race, I'd be playing the game a heck of a lot more.
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This is my strategy, based on a user in this topic:
Hyundai genesis gr3,tcs0. This car is fast and it should get to 1st place by lap 3 or 4.
Start with RM, pit on lap 7, new RM, NO REFUEL.
Now this is important. You must have fuel to reach lap 15. If you go only fuel map 1, you will only have fuel until lap 14. So after lap10/11 you should start dropping down the fuel map.
Pit on lap15, switch to RH, full fuel, fuel map on 2.
You have to be in front of rubilar and beavouis by lap21. Otherwise you probably wont catch them.
By the beggining of lap 30, if you have fuel for more than 1 lap, swtich to fuel map 1
You should be doing 1:56/1:57/1:58 on fresh RM with fm1 and 1:59/2:00 on RH with fm2.
Good luck
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Something has changed in the background of the game for this race. Up until now, Beauvois alweays stayed in 2nd or 3rd place until at least lap 3. Now, Beauvois is now regularly passing Inostrosa and Yamanaka within the 1st to early 2nd lap. Once that happens its game over, there is no catching him.
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This is actually outdated advice. No way to get past Yamanaka in this car before Lap 3 anymore. Keep trying.
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I disagree. I used this car yesterday and got to 1st place at the end of lap 2/beginning of lap 3.
I didn't use the same strategy but I did use the Genesis on RM.
My victory time is also one of the slowest in the thread (1:00:55:XXX)
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Yeah it is. I caught him in lap 2 right now
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Welll apparently my 1:57-1:58 on fresh tires isnt good enough then. I get the theory, the chart below clearly shows Hyundai Genesis Gr.3 is currently trhe best. But then that beckons the question, how is every single computer car so much better than their stat sheet?
I'm very frustrated with this race. I have gotten as far as Lap 20 in 1st, but then Rubilar pits after me and gets out before and there is not a way to catch up. I have spent 700 miles+ specifically in the Hyundai Genesis Gr3 on only this race, and still my best is not 1st.
https://gt-engine.com/gtsport/cars/gr3/gr3_specs.html
I'm very frustrated with this race. I have gotten as far as Lap 20 in 1st, but then Rubilar pits after me and gets out before and there is not a way to catch up. I have spent 700 miles+ specifically in the Hyundai Genesis Gr3 on only this race, and still my best is not 1st.
https://gt-engine.com/gtsport/cars/gr3/gr3_specs.html
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That's great. Doesn't work for me.
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It's just a very hard race - I think Im decent (according to my friends list/leaderboards) but probably just average given how slow my completion time for this event was.
I think my strategy is pretty good but it relies on getting to first before the first pit-stop, which in reality usually means before Lap 3 or 4 because its hard to catch Yamanaka if the gap goes over 4 seconds.
If Beauvois gets to no.1 then I usually just restart as I cannot catch him even doing 1:57 laps.
I finally won Maggiore with the BMW Z4, in my second full race attempt (previous best 4th in DBR9). If I can win this, anyone can.
Two stops, medium tires, pretty standard. I ran average 1:58s, with a few 1:57s, and a few 1:59s.
A lot of guides say "if you aren't in front by lap 4, restart," or "if you aren't leading by the first pit stop, you've lost." Not so! (or maybe I was just lucky)
I made a decent start and got near the front, but couldn't get past Yamanaka, and he pulled out an 8 second lead by lap 10 when we pitted. I filled up to 10 laps of fuel. Exiting the pit amongst the cars on the 1-stop strategy was a big help, because the fast guys got stuck in traffic, and I didn't have as much trouble. You've gotta send it to get around slower cars without letting them slow you down, especially in the high-speed middle sector. I didn't do a ton of curb-cutting in my race, but it's helpful to have a sense of where you can place the car [and not get penalized] when you catch a much slower car on RH tires at an inopportune time, such as in the middle of a sweeper. I was able to catch the leaders because they didn't have clear track in front of them, and took a lot longer to make their passes.
I made my second stop on Lap 20 from the lead, but Rubilar got ahead of me in the pits. Again, he wasn't as fast as he could be because he took longer to pass the cars that were on the 1-stop strategy. We both worked our way to the front, and by lap 23 or so, I was 6th, and Rubilar was 4th. I caught up while he battled with the top 3, and I got past all of them before the hairpin around Lap 27. I held Rubilar off for 3 and a half laps, during which he was anywhere between 0.5 and 2.5 seconds behind me. I lapped a Corvette on lap 28 or 29 in the crucial middle sector, which bought me some time and took some pressure off.
I won ahead of Rubilar in 30 laps, by 0.891 seconds.
Since this race is so much about consisitancy and being precisely on the racing line in high speed corners, I switched to Automatic transmission, so there was one less thing I could flub, and I could really focus on the line. Generally, I was slow in the first sector, but I was quick in the middle part with the sweepers and the big straightaway, so I could pretty much always pull out 0.5 seconds on anyone through that section, which gave me confidence for both attacking and defending, and a bit of padding for the rest of the lap.
I'm not sure if the Z4 was the magic bullet, or if I had just accrued enough mileage through attempts that my lap times improved enough for me to win. Before the Z4, I tried:
Porsche 911 RSR (a bit unstable under braking)
Peugeot (slow on straights)
Genesis Coupe (quick but I didn't like the tire wear)
Mazda RX-Vision GT3 (twitchy on worn tires)
Aston DBR9 (very stable but felt a bit heavy)
I didn't expect to win on my first attempt in the Z4! I had even bought a WRX Gr3 at the same time I bought the Z4, just for this race. The Z4 was quick and predictable, and didn't lose too much speed on worn tires. If I hadn't won on this attempt, I was planning to try a 1-stop strategy on RH tires. Hope this helps someone to not get too discouraged if you can't pass everyone in the first stint.
Two stops, medium tires, pretty standard. I ran average 1:58s, with a few 1:57s, and a few 1:59s.
A lot of guides say "if you aren't in front by lap 4, restart," or "if you aren't leading by the first pit stop, you've lost." Not so! (or maybe I was just lucky)
I made a decent start and got near the front, but couldn't get past Yamanaka, and he pulled out an 8 second lead by lap 10 when we pitted. I filled up to 10 laps of fuel. Exiting the pit amongst the cars on the 1-stop strategy was a big help, because the fast guys got stuck in traffic, and I didn't have as much trouble. You've gotta send it to get around slower cars without letting them slow you down, especially in the high-speed middle sector. I didn't do a ton of curb-cutting in my race, but it's helpful to have a sense of where you can place the car [and not get penalized] when you catch a much slower car on RH tires at an inopportune time, such as in the middle of a sweeper. I was able to catch the leaders because they didn't have clear track in front of them, and took a lot longer to make their passes.
I made my second stop on Lap 20 from the lead, but Rubilar got ahead of me in the pits. Again, he wasn't as fast as he could be because he took longer to pass the cars that were on the 1-stop strategy. We both worked our way to the front, and by lap 23 or so, I was 6th, and Rubilar was 4th. I caught up while he battled with the top 3, and I got past all of them before the hairpin around Lap 27. I held Rubilar off for 3 and a half laps, during which he was anywhere between 0.5 and 2.5 seconds behind me. I lapped a Corvette on lap 28 or 29 in the crucial middle sector, which bought me some time and took some pressure off.
I won ahead of Rubilar in 30 laps, by 0.891 seconds.
Since this race is so much about consisitancy and being precisely on the racing line in high speed corners, I switched to Automatic transmission, so there was one less thing I could flub, and I could really focus on the line. Generally, I was slow in the first sector, but I was quick in the middle part with the sweepers and the big straightaway, so I could pretty much always pull out 0.5 seconds on anyone through that section, which gave me confidence for both attacking and defending, and a bit of padding for the rest of the lap.
I'm not sure if the Z4 was the magic bullet, or if I had just accrued enough mileage through attempts that my lap times improved enough for me to win. Before the Z4, I tried:
Porsche 911 RSR (a bit unstable under braking)
Peugeot (slow on straights)
Genesis Coupe (quick but I didn't like the tire wear)
Mazda RX-Vision GT3 (twitchy on worn tires)
Aston DBR9 (very stable but felt a bit heavy)
I didn't expect to win on my first attempt in the Z4! I had even bought a WRX Gr3 at the same time I bought the Z4, just for this race. The Z4 was quick and predictable, and didn't lose too much speed on worn tires. If I hadn't won on this attempt, I was planning to try a 1-stop strategy on RH tires. Hope this helps someone to not get too discouraged if you can't pass everyone in the first stint.
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Just to double-check: are you on “hard” difficulty because of the glitch?
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