The Human Comedy 8 - Gr.3 Lake Maggiore

[Reodor F]

I want to meet the person that can run a 1:00:23 to beat the AI. Mostly so they can do this for me.

Won it today with a run at 1:00:22 with Beauvois polishing my rear bumper 0.14 sec behind.
Used the BRZ with a one stop strategy on mediums.
Don't think anyone else has recomended this strategy.

That car is not bad after 15 laps on RM, my slowest lap was 2.01.957 on lap 14 while serving a 1 sec penalty. FL 1.57.381.
Served two 1 sec penalties during this race, and wasn't always in my best rythm. So think this is doable for many of those who are struggeling with this race. My best finish before testing the one stop on medium strategy was 5th i think.

Got to 2 pos on lap 3, took 1st on end of lap 10 when Beauvois pitted, came out in 14th after pitting after lap 15, got back to 1st on lap 21. Most of the race was driving in clean air.

TC 1, everything else was off.
FM 1 all the way, shifting in the 50-70% range on the bar.
G29 wheel.

Check out SUPER GT on YouTube driving this car in this race. Trying to copy his driving and cornerspeeds helped me alot.

 

[Mathaios_C]

I am honestly struggling to win this race. Yesterday i finished P2 for 1.5 sec. Fastest AI lap 1.55.759 WTF
I start to have problem once the tyres get old, while the rivals keep pushing like hell…

 

[Mudda Chod]

I am honestly struggling to win this race. Yesterday i finished P2 for 1.5 sec. Fastest AI lap 1.55.759 WTF
I start to have problem once the tyres get old, while the rivals keep pushing like hell…

Well it's an endurance race so Fastest Lap is somewhat irrelevant. Sometimes the AI does a blasting lap with full fuel usage on the softer tyre compound, only to later realise it cost 30 seconds for an extra pit stop.

Consistant efficient laps is what wins endurance races. I can guarantee you don't need to do 1:55s lap times to win.... 1:56 is sufficient !

Won it today with a run at 1:00:22 with Beauvois polishing my rear bumper 0.14 sec behind.
Used the BRZ with a one stop strategy on mediums.
Don't think anyone else has recomended this strategy.

That car is not bad after 15 laps on RM, my slowest lap was 2.01.957 on lap 14 while serving a 1 sec penalty. FL 1.57.381.
Served two 1 sec penalties during this race, and wasn't always in my best rythm. So think this is doable for many of those who are struggeling with this race. My best finish before testing the one stop on medium strategy was 5th i think.

Got to 2 pos on lap 3, took 1st on end of lap 10 when Beauvois pitted, came out in 14th after pitting after lap 15, got back to 1st on lap 21. Most of the race was driving in clean air.

TC 1, everything else was off.
FM 1 all the way, shifting in the 50-70% range on the bar.
G29 wheel.

Check out SUPER GT on YouTube driving this car in this race. Trying to copy his driving and cornerspeeds helped me alot.

Apparently the BRZ is ok, but I'm not keen on nursing RM tyres through 15 laps. I prefer to do more consistent laps on RH, for easy win in either WRX (friendly) or RX Vision (snappy, use assists). In both cases short shifting for fuel saving.

Super GT's BRZ method gets 30 laps only (see pic position 5)

 

[Fezzik]

As I am still too lazy to switch to manual gears, anyone have a winning strategy for us poor AT drivers who aren't able to short shift and save fuel?

 

[Meythia]

As I am still too lazy to switch to manual gears, anyone have a winning strategy for us poor AT drivers who aren't able to short shift and save fuel?

Full throttle and 2 stop, paired with mediums as you need to pit anyway and want to try a sprint-away of the others.

 

[Reodor F]

I am honestly struggling to win this race. Yesterday i finished P2 for 1.5 sec. Fastest AI lap 1.55.759 WTF
I start to have problem once the tyres get old, while the rivals keep pushing like hell…

What difficulty are you on?

Mine was sett to hard. I barely lapped any of the AI in this race, lapped 16th on lap 30 giving me the buffer i needed to beat Beauvois.
I've tried easy, normal and hard. Not noticing any change in the aggressiveness of the maniac AI's, not sure if the AI will do a 1:00:22 race on easy though.

Don't pay attention to the fastest lap. On a one stop strategy where the trip to the pit's cost me about 50 sec of racetime, it gave me a target avg laptime of ~1.59.1. So that is doable without alien laptimes.

I can run the BRZ just under 1.56 with TC off (and with help of a fast AI) , but can't do that for a entire 1 hr race, and absolutely not 15 laps on RM.
I needed the grip of the mediums and the safety of TC. Tried the one stop RH No tire change strategy, got harassed by AI for 15-20 laps. Got pit manouvered in turn 2 on 29th lap, about 2 sec behind 1st.

 

[Mathaios_C]

What difficulty are you on?

Mine was sett to hard. I barely lapped any of the AI in this race, lapped 16th on lap 30 giving me the buffer i needed to beat Beauvois.
I've tried easy, normal and hard. Not noticing any change in the aggressiveness of the maniac AI's, not sure if the AI will do a 1:00:22 race on easy though.

Don't pay attention to the fastest lap. On a one stop strategy where the trip to the pit's cost me about 50 sec of racetime, it gave me a target avg laptime of ~1.59.1. So that is doable without alien laptimes.

I can run the BRZ just under 1.56 with TC off (and with help of a fast AI) , but can't do that for a entire 1 hr race, and absolutely not 15 laps on RM.
I needed the grip of the mediums and the safety of TC. Tried the one stop RH No tire change strategy, got harassed by AI for 15-20 laps. Got pit manouvered in turn 2 on 29th lap, about 2 sec behind 1st.

The difficulty is set to hard since day one. Never touched it. More fast i go more fast they go. I finished 2nd in 1.00.27 and 1.00.31

 

[Reodor F]

As I am still too lazy to switch to manual gears, anyone have a winning strategy for us poor AT drivers who aren't able to short shift and save fuel?

Try the BRZ and see if that can reach the 15 lap mark on FM 1. I didn't short shift it to save fuel, it was to keep it in the powerband, 15 laps on FM 1, no problem. You could allways switch to FM 2 for a periode if needed, could help you on the last laps if you are on RM for 15 laps.
I have experienced that i use more fuel using MT over AT when pushing hard on the revs.

 

[Mathaios_C]

Try the BRZ and see if that can reach the 15 lap mark on FM 1. I didn't short shift it to save fuel, it was to keep it in the powerband, 15 laps on FM 1, no problem. You could allways switch to FM 2 for a periode if needed, could help you on the last laps if you are on RM for 15 laps.
I have experienced that i use more fuel using MT over AT when pushing hard on the revs.

U won with brz on medium doing 1 stop?

 

[Reodor F]

U won with brz on medium doing 1 stop?

Yes, one stop RM all the way, changing to fresh RM after 15 laps.
Did it on the first try with that strategy. It gave me the speed to get to 2th on lap 3 and giving me clean air for over 2/3 of the race.
Haven't seen anyone else mention that they done that, so thought i would give it a try.

 

[AlexWilmot]

U won with brz on medium doing 1 stop?

I did as well, Lap 14 and 15 you need to brake earlier than usual to keep it on track

 

[Reodor F]

Apparently the BRZ is ok, but I'm not keen on nursing RM tyres through 15 laps. I prefer to do more consistent laps on RH, for easy win in either WRX (friendly) or RX Vision (snappy, use assists). In both cases short shifting for fuel saving.

Super GT's BRZ method gets 30 laps only (see pic position 5)

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Well, my point was not being the fastet in the world kind of thing. For most of us he is doing good lap times, and going 11 laps on RM in that pace, in a specific car and event. So for me in a slower pace it is not much nursing to make the RM last 15 laps. For many of us there is things we can learn from that. I am not going for the 31 laps, i aim for a win. My lap times just dropped a little to much on RH so i was having a hard time.
So if 15 laps on RM can help someone else struggling, then i'm happy for them.

 

[Mudda Chod]

Well, my point was not being the fastet in the world kind of thing. For most of us he is doing good lap times, and going 11 laps on RM in that pace, in a specific car and event. So for me in a slower pace it is not much nursing to make the RM last 15 laps. For many of us there is things we can learn from that. I am not going for the 31 laps, i aim for a win. My lap times just dropped a little to much on RH so i was having a hard time.
So if 15 laps on RM can help someone else struggling, then i'm happy for them.

Yes, good point. And, like others here, I'm surprised that you got 15 good laps from the RMs. You must have a very smooth racing style.

What I didn't actually mention (it was implied; see the screenshot), was that with 50 seconds to spare (over 30 laps) there's quite a buffer to accommodate a few mistakes, or a slower average of 1:57 or 58; and still win.

 

[JDM_GT7]

The BRZ is easy on tires AND handles well on worn tires. Those two combo mean it can push on worn tires better than most other Gr3 cars.

 

[pedronfdsantos]

The BRZ is easy on tires AND handles well on worn tires. Those two combo mean it can push on worn tires better than most other Gr3 cars.

On AT i can't get better laps than 2.03 Normal difficulty on the human comedy just missing this one and autopolis. All others on gold.

 

[JDM_GT7]

need to shift for autopolis for sure.

 

[Meythia]

On AT i can't get better laps than 2.03 Normal difficulty on the human comedy just missing this one and autopolis. All others on gold.

Please try the F-Type Gr.3

need to shift for autopolis for sure.

Totally possible with automatic transmission.

 

[MustangRyan]

On AT i can't get better laps than 2.03 Normal difficulty on the human comedy just missing this one and autopolis. All others on gold.

You need to be able to run gold-time laps consistently in the circuit experience. If you cannot reliably gold the CE, you are not yet ready for this race.

 

[Mathaios_C]

**** 15 laps on medium is quite tough i think ehehe!! What’s your lap time between lap 10 and 15?

 

[WRP001]

Super GT's BRZ method gets 30 laps only (see pic position 5)

it’s been a while since I watched the video, but Super GT literally stopped at the end of lap 30 to prevent going 31 laps, he got to last corner with like 30 seconds on timer… so not a fair criticism of the strategy. I preferred 2 stops myself back when I did this with various cars, but anyway.

 

[Reodor F]

**** 15 laps on medium is quite tough i think ehehe!! What’s your lap time between lap 10 and 15?

L10- 1.58.6,
L11- 1.58.8,
L12- 1.58.8,
L13- 2.01.18 doing a small mistake giving me a penalty,
L14- 2.01.95 serving the 1 sec penalty, slows you down losing more than 1 sec
L15- 2.49.8 pit took forever and got a 1 sec penalty on that lap.
L26- 1.58.4
L27- 1.58.4
L28- 2.01.0
L29- 2.00.1
L30- 2.01.3

The last 3 laps was with traffic and Beauvois on my tail, took it down a notch to be sure of no penalties or screwups.
Race total: 7laps 1.57, 13laps 1.58, 3laps 1.59 and 7 laps 2+.
Needed a avg lap time of ~1.59.1 for the race time 1:00:22.

 

[Mudda Chod]

it’s been a while since I watched the video, but Super GT literally stopped at the end of lap 30 to prevent going 31 laps, he got to last corner with like 30 seconds on timer… so not a fair criticism of the strategy. I preferred 2 stops myself back when I did this with various cars, but anyway.

Fair enough.... I'm pretty sure he could get 31 if he tried.

Wait.... Why would he do that?

 

[Mathaios_C]

Just did it again. Afain 2nd. And guess who won? Myazono in the Huracan. Never happened before.

 

[MustangRyan]

Fair enough.... I'm pretty sure he could get 31 if he tried.

Wait.... Why would he do that?

The risk of losing the race would be zero if second place couldn't start lap 31 before the timer got to zero. Even if he ran out of fuel on lap 31, he could still finish the final lap at low speed without being passed. So... maybe it was to save two to three extra minutes of driving? 🤔

 

[Reodor F]

The risk of losing the race would be zero if second place couldn't start lap 31 before the timer got to zero. Even if he ran out of fuel on lap 31, he could still finish the final lap at low speed without being passed. So... maybe it was to save two to three extra minutes of driving? 🤔

So you don't need fuel onboard for det entire 31 lap? Can you run it in slow speed on empty?

 

[MustangRyan]

So you don't need fuel onboard for det entire 31 lap? Can you run it in slow speed on empty?

If you run out of fuel, you can still drive around at a speed comparable to pit road speed.

 

[Mudda Chod]

If you run out of fuel, you can still drive around at a speed comparable to pit road speed.

Yes, I did this on one occasion at Alsace, with 0.3% fuel remaining for the extra final lap. If you don't run out of fuel, you will win even by doing 1km/hr for the extra final lap, providing none of the AI get over the finish line before the 1:00 hr countdown ends.

BUT I found out two very interesting things:

1. The AI programing is so bad that if you are going very slowly on your final lap they will actually crash repeatedly into you, even though they are out of the race, on "auto drive" and only going 60km/hr!! .... Imagine having 20 GT world finalists in a supermarket carpark fighting for one park.

2. Your full final time is still recorded, even though you can't see it mentioned in the Ranking Table i.e. if other players finish the extra final lap quicker than you, they will be ranked above you on your Friends Ranking/Top 10. For this reason I now plan my fuel strategy to allow the extra final lap to be completed at standard race pace.

 

[WRP001]

Fair enough.... I'm pretty sure he could get 31 if he tried.

Wait.... Why would he do that?

To save time and end the event without doing another lap lol.

 

[Fezzik]

You need to be able to run gold-time laps consistently in the circuit experience. If you cannot reliably gold the CE, you are not yet ready for this race.

Well I'm screwed - still can't get the CE gold, a couple of tenths off, all in the last sector.
This is probably my worst track.
Think I'll leave it for a while and go back to attempting those delightful drift missions - out of the frying pan and into the fire.

 

[Reodor F]

Got a win again today. This time in the Genesis on a one stop with RH.
Funny thing is that i was 8 sec slower for this run than with the BRZ on a one stop with RM.
Could not do it in the BRZ on RH, FL 1.58.8. That is about the same lap time i could do on worn RM in the 10-15th lap.