The New King of Racers? FM4

[MitchZ06]

Don't forget Racing helmets, museum cards, horn collecting and paint chip collecting being exclusive to GT too.

Racing games will never be the same again without museum cars and horns....

 

[Spagetti69]

Not really since there are no rare cars in the Auction house. In the used car dealership some cars are hard to find and much more rare. You can get any car you want from the Auction house at any given time.

I thought there were one off unicorn cars in forza?

Unique liveries too.

 

[t.o.]

This is actually exactly what Im talking about. I like how it makes certain cars rare and hard to get. I know I might be in the minority on this one but its just my personal opinion.

Try telling that to the people in the beginning looking for a truck to race in that one early race and couldn't find one. Yeah a truck is rare and hard to get
In real life cars might be rare but if you got the cash they ain't hard to get at all. I think Forza does it better. It's there to buy as long as you got the cash. Rare cars are one's that people put on the auction house with their custom livery, mods and tunes.

 

[Luminis]

Try telling that to the people in the beginning looking for a truck to race in that one early race and couldn't find one. Yeah a truck is rare and hard to get
In real life cars might be rare but if you got the cash they ain't hard to get at all. I think Forza does it better. It's there to buy as long as you got the cash. Rare cars are one's that people put on the auction house with their custom livery, mods and tunes.

If we're talking rare cars, there are always the unicorn cars... I think T10 uses them as a means to drain money from Forza's 'economy' first and foremost, but I still like the concept of having a few things in the game that are actually thought after - just like the super expensive Ferraris as well.

It's just that this doesn't fly very well with a lot of people. Mostly those who have that sense of entitlement that they ought ot have absolutely everything within the blink of an eye.

 

[cuco33]

Not really since there are no rare cars in the Auction house. In the used car dealership some cars are hard to find and much more rare. You can get any car you want from the Auction house at any given time.

Actually there is. I've read that unicorn cars from T10 were being sold on the AH. But the best thing about the AH is if a good painter/tuner has a car with the livery/tune you want then it's available when the player has it available for sale. It's MUCH better than the UCD and note... I hate the idea of not getting a car I want right away but I got Pokemon syndrome.... gotta catch em all... and I generally buy out most, if not all the cars in the UCD. The Prius cars though... I sold mine and refuse to buy them unless they are the absolute last cars to get in the game.

 

[cuco33]

Try telling that to the people in the beginning looking for a truck to race in that one early race and couldn't find one. Yeah a truck is rare and hard to get
In real life cars might be rare but if you got the cash they ain't hard to get at all. I think Forza does it better. It's there to buy as long as you got the cash. Rare cars are one's that people put on the auction house with their custom livery, mods and tunes.

I hated that so bad... I am NOT a fan of trucks by any means so I just wanted to do the race just to get it over with. I ended up winning the huge and heavy as hell Dodge Ram quad cab by completing A license.... which added to more stupidity... not a single truck license event and it's a prize car in the 2nd to last license... then to add salt on open wounds... the truck races in both A and B specs gives you 2 different versions of DAIHATSU MIDGETS
Not an F150. Not a Tacoma. Not an SSR. 2 DAIHATSU MIDGETS..........
And the truck you win was extremely heavy and needed quite a good amount of mods and a decent tune in order to be competitive.

 

[McLaren]

What I do find hilarious is no one is shouting bullshots left, right and center just like GT had...I wonder why. Still pick this up but people's urge to hate GT seems to be making them vulnerable ti believing the game will look like half these pictures, the gameplay videos still look great thopugh.

You mean just how the GT section was before GT5's release....

These arguments always swing both ways.

 

[zr1chris]

The unicorn cars are not different cars. They are cars we already have with liveries and tuned.

 

[cuco33]

The unicorn cars are not different cars. They are cars we already have with liveries and tuned.

There's actually 2 different types of cars that T10 sends you. VIP cars are current cars in the game with mods/tunes and liveries. You get these cars by simply being VIP, either paying for the VIP pack or being an LCE owner which gave you instant VIP access

Then there's actual unicorn cars which are really rare:
- 2006 Subaru Impreza S204
- 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe
- 2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type-A

These apparently were gifted as prize cars if you participated (and maybe won) certain T10 exclusive events. Either races, time trials or paint contest type of stuff.

 

[James1436]

It seems like FM4 is a GT5 rip-off with better manufacturers. They copied many features from GT5 and added new ones.

Care to name 5 features that Forza 4 copied off of Gt5?

 

[zr1chris]

There's actually 2 different types of cars that T10 sends you. VIP cars are current cars in the game with mods/tunes and liveries. You get these cars by simply being VIP, either paying for the VIP pack or being an LCE owner which gave you instant VIP access

Then there's actual unicorn cars which are really rare:
- 2006 Subaru Impreza S204
- 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe
- 2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type-A

These apparently were gifted as prize cars if you participated (and maybe won) certain T10 exclusive events. Either races, time trials or paint contest type of stuff.

I have Forza 3 LCE and got the vip gifted cars from time to time. The 3 unicorn cars you have listed I am pretty sure are in the game and can simply be purchased as any other car. Its been a while since the last time I popped the game in but I will be sure to check it out later when I get home.

 

[Hotspitta]

Don't forget Racing helmets, museum cards, horn collecting and paint chip collecting being exclusive to GT too.

 

[McLaren]

No, you can't. That's why they're called unicorn cars. The only other way was getting them in the Auction House, which was next-to-impossible because only the hackers or people who actually managed to make so much money could get them & would just bid war each other into submission for ridiculous amounts of credits.

 

[cuco33]

I have Forza 3 LCE and got the vip gifted cars from time to time. The 3 unicorn cars you have listed I am pretty sure are in the game and can simply be purchased as any other car. Its been a while since the last time I popped the game in but I will be sure to check it out later when I get home.

I'll check myself. Maybe there was a patch which opened these 3 cars up but I remember for a long time everyone wanted at least 1 of the 3 unicorn cars. I myself wanted all 3.

 

[Brend]

You mean just how the GT section was before GT5's release....

These arguments always swing both ways.

Hmm, didn't I say that people were saying GT's screenshots were bullshots?


That's how the GT section was. El Negativo Central.

 

[Luminis]

I have Forza 3 LCE and got the vip gifted cars from time to time. The 3 unicorn cars you have listed I am pretty sure are in the game and can simply be purchased as any other car. Its been a while since the last time I popped the game in but I will be sure to check it out later when I get home.

1997 Mazda RX-7: Purchasable at the Mazda dealership.
2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type-A: Unicorn car.

2006 Subaru Impreza S204: Unicorn car.
2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STI: Purchasable at the Subaru dealership.

1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe: Unicorn car.
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28: Purchasable at the Chevrolet dealership.

The unicorn cars can't be purchased ingame. They are close to some of the cars that can be purchased directly in the game, though. They can be won by participating in various community events, such as race events with T10 staff, livery contest and photo contest. At times, T10 put a set of unicorn cars up for auction at FM3's auction house. They went for huge amounts of credits, and I'm talking 100 million credits huge.
Highly sought after, pretty rare but by no means irreplacable if you never had the means to get your hands on one of them.

Hmm, didn't I say that people were saying GT's screenshots were bullshots?


That's how the GT section was. El Negativo Central.

The way I remember it, everybody who said anything negative about the game was immediately attacked by the GT Defense Force. I still remember the whole "standard cars are going to have a cockpit view because Kaz is a perfectionist and won't allow them to be in the game otherwise" thing.

 

[Spagetti69]

Care to name 5 features that Forza 4 copied off of Gt5?

1. Cars
2. Tracks
3. Menu music.
4. Win credits after a race.
5. You can drive with a pad
6. You can drive with a wheel.
7. Intro movie.
8. They come in plastic cases
9. Um.

 

[Luminis]

1. Cars
2. Tracks
3. Menu music.
4. Win credits after a race.
5. You can drive with a pad
6. You can drive with a wheel.
7. Intro movie.
8. They come in plastic cases
9. Um.

10. Manual transmission.
11. Automatic transmission.
12. AI opponents.
13. Saving the game.
14. Loading the game.
15. Car tuning.
16. Car dealership.
17. Used cars.

Kaz invented all of that. I swear.

 

[Spagetti69]

This is actually exactly what Im talking about. I like how it makes certain cars rare and hard to get. I know I might be in the minority on this one but its just my personal opinion.

Actually I've not got the 250 GTO or the Testarossa. About 15 million and 20 million credits worth in Forza.

They may be freely available to buy but for normal average Joe to purchase that's a lot of time to earn those credits.

GT5 I own all the 20 million cars. (4 i think).

I have been at the 20 million in game cap a few times.

Certainly with unique and expensive cars Forzas seem far more rare.

Unlike yourself however, I am not keen on rarity but if you like it then Forza will certainly tease you lol.

 

[zr1chris]

Actually I've not got the 250 GTO or the Testarossa. About 15 million and 20 million credits worth in Forza.

They may be freely available to buy but for normal average Joe to purchase that's a lot of time to earn those credits.

GT5 I own all the 20 million cars. (4 i think).

I have been at the 20 million in game cap a few times.

Certainly with unique and expensive cars Forzas seem far more rare.

Unlike yourself however, I am not keen on rarity but if you like it then Forza will certainly tease you lol.

Very true. Although rare cars aren't always crazy expensive in real life. I just think it would be nice to have a good mix somehow. My perfect scenario would have the pay scale (maybe slightly higher than Forza 3) and prices of Forza 3 but with any car of 5 years old or older having to be purchased in a used car dealer sort of like GT5. I would just have maybe 2 or 3 more dealerships. Each dealership would cater to a certain type of car. Examples would be: European dealer, American dealer, Asian dealer, Budget dealer, and Exotic dealer. If you really just wanted to hop in any stock car and use it then it would still be available in Arcade mode.

 

[yawzway]

1. Cars
2. Tracks
3. Menu music.
4. Win credits after a race.
5. You can drive with a pad
6. You can drive with a wheel.
7. Intro movie.
8. They come in plastic cases
9. when you press a button, the car goes fast

This was in GT that Forza copied.

 

[Spagetti69]

Actually I am struggling to think of anything Forza ripped off.

It could be argued that GT seasonals are a copy of Turn 10's special events.

Anyhow imitation is the highest form of flattery.

I'm good with copying or expanding on good ideas.

Rivals mode is a blatant copy of autolog. Do I care NFS had it first.

The answer my dear friends is I couldn't care less as long as the game is great.

If GT want to copy Forza too, all cockpits and leaderboards even autovista which I am sure Kaz would love. I am great with that.

We all benifit.

 

[strtgng]

1997 Mazda RX-7: Purchasable at the Mazda dealership.
2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type-A: Unicorn car.

2006 Subaru Impreza S204: Unicorn car.
2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STI: Purchasable at the Subaru dealership.

1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe: Unicorn car.
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28: Purchasable at the Chevrolet dealership.

The unicorn cars can't be purchased ingame. They are close to some of the cars that can be purchased directly in the game, though. They can be won by participating in various community events, such as race events with T10 staff, livery contest and photo contest. At times, T10 put a set of unicorn cars up for auction at FM3's auction house. They went for huge amounts of credits, and I'm talking 100 million credits huge.
Highly sought after, pretty rare but by no means irreplacable if you never had the means to get your hands on one of them.

The Subaru unicorn was recently gifted to about everyone as a celebration of Turn 10 getting 10,000 followers on twitter or facebook...I forget. I had already won a Turn 10 trivia contest and had one Subaru, so now I have 2! Plus the Camaro from another contest. You can't gift, auction, or sell unicorn cars. I'd expect FM4 to have some too.

 

[cuco33]

Both games copy each other to some degree and both copy things from other games. These aren't shooters with new stories. They are fairly straight forward racing titles, cars on track racing so PD, T10, everyone really would be stupid to not see what other racers are doing.

Head tracking in both GT5 and FM4 was an idea taken from PC sims, as an example.

 

[t.o.]

Both games copy each other to some degree and both copy things from other games. These aren't shooters with new stories. They are fairly straight forward racing titles, cars on track racing so PD, T10, everyone really would be stupid to not see what other racers are doing.

Head tracking in both GT5 and FM4 was an idea taken from PC sims, as an example.

And to a large degree if you don't copy you can forget it. You'll get passed up. GT had to copy damage, they HAD to. If they didn't believe me they would have lost ALOT of sales. I know everyone on my 360 friendslist who has a PS3 wouldn't have. We all talked about that early. If there was no damage it was a no sale no matter what they put out there.

 

[GumShoe]

I hope Forza 4 copies the legends stuff from Shift 2. I mean not just classic cars, but classic tracks to go with them. They even adjusted the lighting a bit at the tracks to give them a 'dated' look, fantastic.

People always talk about wanting the classic cars from bygone eras, but the tracks to go with them get neglected a bit. I'd love to see more of the old tracks added to these games, it gives a great sense of immersion to race on what a track once was (especially like the '67 Nordschliefe in GP Legends).

 

[t.o.]

I hope Forza 4 copies the legends stuff from Shift 2. I mean not just classic cars, but classic tracks to go with them. They even adjusted the lighting a bit at the tracks to give them a 'dated' look, fantastic.

People always talk about wanting the classic cars from bygone eras, but the tracks to go with them get neglected a bit. I'd love to see more of the old tracks added to these games, it gives a great sense of immersion to race on what a track once was (especially like the '67 Nordschliefe in GP Legends).

I'm feeling the idea of them putting a "look" to the screen but I don't mind it being that way during replays or something. I mean after all they didn't race in black and white. lol

I know what you want though, you want a little of this don't you...

 

[GumShoe]

Yep

Or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzL3uSyFVmI&feature=player_embedded#at=78

Or how do you like the old 'on-foot' starts, they should do that still!:

 

[Sele1981]

Care to name 5 features that Forza 4 copied off of Gt5?

Common are you serious? The first time I played FM3, I thought I´m playing GT...

They made GT for xbox360... But ok, maybe T10 made an better GT or an GT that US/EU gamers want 👍 I don´t need 70 variations of an skyline or 500 japanese cars...

 

[jasjeet]

Common are you serious? The first time I played FM3, I thought I´m playing GT...

They made GT for xbox360... But ok, maybe T10 made an better GT or an GT that US/EU gamers want 👍 I don´t need 70 variations of an skyline or 500 japanese cars...

Is that a bad thing?