The "war on police" in America

[McLaren]

That's called hood justice.

That's also called being stupid.

"Yeah, I'll go to jail for murder but better than being a snitch".

 

[ryzno]

I doubt you'll believe me, I swear on my girl and my son, me and 6 neighbors beat a man that was trying to snatch up a kid. He told the police about everything we did in our building and guess who got arrested. And guess what, the police thanked us.

Edit your example is a different story. But still I can feel them. The court doesn't always give the best sentence.

 

[McLaren]

I doubt you'll believe me, I swear on my girl and my son, me and 6 neighbors beat a man that was trying to snatch up a kid. He told the police about everything we did in our building and guess who got arrested. And guess what, the police thanked us.

Edit your example is a different story. But still I can feel them. The court doesn't always give the best sentence.

You caught a criminal in the act and stopped him. He snitched to try and get out of going to jail.

That's not even close to the absurdity of "Snitches get stitches", which usually has nothing to do with a court, but the train of thought that keeping a criminal's identity is more valuable than helping seek justice for a victim.

http://www.fox29.com/news/173121208-story

"Forget all the snitches get stitches and all that. That was my son. That was yals friend that yal be with every day. So don't act like yal don't know nothing," she said.

No arrests have been made.

 

[Johnnypenso]

That's ironic considering parts of the black community are only group of people in the US who don't advocate snitching. Like the man whose son was shot by gangbangers, but wouldn't give up the names of the people he thought did it because, "his community handles their own business".

Snitches get stitches, and all that nonsense.

Testimony under oath in the Michael Brown case revealed that quite a number of witnesses weren't witnesses at all, they just wanted to "be a part of something" or felt peer pressure from the community. The foundation of the BLM movement is based on the lies told by supposed eye witnesses right after the incident occurred.

A new Harvard Study by a black professor, motivated by anger after the deaths of Michael Brown, Freddie Gray and others, studied 1000 shootings in 10 major police departments. While he found a slightly higher risk for black suspects to be treated roughly or handcuffed, at the same time he found no racial bias in the likelihood of deadly force being used with a black suspect.

But when it comes to the most lethal form of force — police shootings — the study finds no racial bias.

“It is the most surprising result of my career,” said Roland G. Fryer Jr., the author of the study and a professor of economics at Harvard. The study examined more than 1,000 shootings in 10 major police departments, in Texas, Florida and California.

 

[zzz_pt]

I'd like to see data comparing how different people (white,black, latino, asian) resist arrest. Should be interesting.

 

[ryzno]

You caught a criminal in the act and stopped him. He snitched to try and get out of going to jail.

That's not even close to the absurdity of "Snitches get stitches", which usually has nothing to do with a court, but the train of thought that keeping a criminal's identity is more valuable than helping seek justice for a victim.

http://www.fox29.com/news/173121208-story

I get what your saying. Example: John kills Bob's friend. Bob does not snitch cause Bob doesn't want to be killed. Later Bob kills John. And Bob gets arrested if someone else snitches. Hood justice with a bunch of people who won't snitch.
I should not respond late at night while intoxicated.

 

[FoolKiller]

I'd like to see data comparing how different people (white,black, latino, asian) resist arrest. Should be interesting.

I just want to see the number of people arrested with the only charge being resisting arrest. I see those every now and then and I wonder, "How can you be arrested for saying, 'No, I won't let you unjustly arrest me.'"

 

[Danoff]

Testimony under oath in the Michael Brown case revealed that quite a number of witnesses weren't witnesses at all, they just wanted to "be a part of something" or felt peer pressure from the community. The foundation of the BLM movement is based on the lies told by supposed eye witnesses right after the incident occurred.

A new Harvard Study by a black professor, motivated by anger after the deaths of Michael Brown, Freddie Gray and others, studied 1000 shootings in 10 major police departments. While he found a slightly higher risk for black suspects to be treated roughly or handcuffed, at the same time he found no racial bias in the likelihood of deadly force being used with a black suspect.



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I'd like to see data comparing how different people (white,black, latino, asian) resist arrest. Should be interesting.

If it was 20% more likely that a black person would resist arrest (...say because they have a hatred for police because of perceived racial bias) then that would roughly equate to 0 differential treatment. New York City is an interesting place to run the test, but it doesn't help draw conclusions in other places.

 

[Johnnypenso]

If it was 20% more likely that a black person would resist arrest (...say because they have a hatred for police because of perceived racial bias) then that would roughly equate to 0 differential treatment. New York City is an interesting place to run the test, but it doesn't help draw conclusions in other places.

As I understand it, the data was gathered from 10 major police departments in Texas, Florida and California.

 

[Danoff]

As I understand it, the data was gathered from 10 major police departments in Texas, Florida and California.

So you're saying the "for every 10,000 stops in new york city" is just for that row? Poor presentation.

 

[zzz_pt]

I just want to see the number of people arrested with the only charge being resisting arrest. I see those every now and then and I wonder, "How can you be arrested for saying, 'No, I won't let you unjustly arrest me.'"

Ok, I should clarify.

I'd like to see data comparing how different people (white,black, latino, asian) resist arrest AFTER breaking the law. Should be interesting.

 

[FoolKiller]

Ok, I should clarify.

I'd like to see data comparing how different people (white,black, latino, asian) resist arrest AFTER breaking the law. Should be interesting.

I'm not sure how accurate it could be.

There are blatant cases of running or fighting, but there are other cases where it isn't so clear what the guy did because he was already being restrained.

 

[huskeR32]

Why are these guys even showing up there,

To exercise their First Amendment rights?

much less with weapons?

You've been making the case for self-defense over in the guns thread, does that for some reason not apply here?

 

[ryzno]

I'm not sure how accurate it could be.

There are blatant cases of running or fighting, but there are other cases where it isn't so clear what the guy did because he was already being restrained.

But does running on foot call for an ass beating?

 

[stonesfan129]

To exercise their First Amendment rights?



You've been making the case for self-defense over in the guns thread, does that for some reason not apply here?

Self-defense does not mean going around looking for trouble.

 

[huskeR32]

Self-defense does not mean going around looking for trouble.

What evidence do you have that they will be?

 

[stonesfan129]

What evidence do you have that they will be?

They are defined by the SPLC as a "hate group." What other reason would they have?

 

[huskeR32]

They are defined by the SPLC as a "hate group." What other reason would they have?

We could ask them:

"If it is an open state to carry, we will exercise our Second Amendment rights because there are other groups threatening to be there that are threatening to do harm to us," Hashim Nzinga, chairman of the New Black Panther Party, told Reuters.

That came straight from the Fox article you posted, which I assumed you had read.

 

[05XR8]

The kkk is the longest running hate group around and still allowed to function. In jobs from civil servants, to police to judges. How are they allowed to still function? People pull that First amendment thing all the time. Black Lives Matter was started in 2012 and people are trying to shut it down.

Once again, I don't follow any groups. I don't agree with anyone spreading hate. Yet, people I know that use Black Lives Matter to spread awareness and waking people up for change, exposing bad cops, getting people to stop killing each other, providing the youth in poor communities ways to stay pro active, those are ones I know are doing good in their communities.

 

[McLaren]

The kkk is the longest running hate group around and still allowed to function. In jobs from civil servants, to police to judges. How are they allowed to still function? People pull that First amendment thing all the time. Black Lives Matter was started in 2012 and people are trying to shut it down.

Because the KKK along with other hate groups don't go around breaking the law and drawing attention to themselves. They operate within' their own world because they know their opinions are near universally despised. It's also a group of 3,000-6,000 people nationwide. They, along with Black separatist groups, however, have been on the rise in the last 2 years.

When you have a movement that gained 85,000 signatures to be recognized as a terrorist group, a movement that has now been repeatedly compared to the KKK, then it's time to throw in the towel. Continue to talk about people you know, and keep ignoring the fact the image of Black Lives Matter is now forever seen as nuisance. Here's your latest dose of idiots in your movement.

 

[ryzno]

Y'all still think I'm crazy???

 

[Carbonox]

Between those tweets (which aren't being posted for the first time either) and the shameless case of attention whoring in Toronto where they blocked a gay pride parade, I can safely say that BLM is making a lot more enemies than friends with their entitled behavior.

 

[05XR8]

Because the KKK along with other hate groups don't go around breaking the law and drawing attention to themselves. They operate within' their own world because they know their opinions are near universally despised. It's also a group of 3,000-6,000 people nationwide. They, along with Black separatist groups, however, have been on the rise in the last 2 years.

When you have a movement that gained 85,000 signatures to be recognized as a terrorist group, a movement that has now been repeatedly compared to the KKK, then it's time to throw in the towel. Continue to talk about people you know, and keep ignoring the fact the image of Black Lives Matter is now forever seen as nuisance. Here's your latest dose of idiots in your movement.

You truly have gone over the falls in a barrell.
The kkk had 4million people at one time. Are you serious about the kkk being smart by not drawing attention? Really?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/georgia-lawmaker-kkk-law-order-article-1.2514712

I guess you'll be typing, how dare Obama disrupt the kkk. They are silently operating. For shame on Obama. He's caused this war on police.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rs-supporters-Charleston-church-massacre.html

 

[McLaren]

You truly have gone over the falls in a barrell.
The kkk had 4million people at one time. Are you serious about the kkk being smart by not drawing attention? Really?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/georgia-lawmaker-kkk-law-order-article-1.2514712

I guess you'll be typing, how dare Obama disrupt the kkk. They are silently operating. For shame on Obama. He's caused this war on police.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rs-supporters-Charleston-church-massacre.html

At one time. History lesson: the KKK have gone through 3 generations where they died out and then came back. Currently, there are only 3-6,000 members in the US across the country.

The only reason the klan has been in the news revolves around Trump or the Grand Dragon supporting Hilary. Your first article is from January.

Putting words in my mouth is cute. Keep being clueless. If you want the identities of the Klan out there, then let's reveal the identities of all hate groups. I'm all for it if it's fair across the board.

 

[05XR8]

Hey, I didn't amend your posts. You keep typing "your movement". Even when I have clearly expressed where I stand.

You are North American. This has been going on in North America since the beginning. Social media is why we see more and we voice more of all goings on today. It's getting harder for people that do dirt, to hide the dirt they do. Add to that, anyone that speaks out of turn, has potential to be seen as a threat or menace.

http://departed.co/when-you-come-for-my-guns-you-better-bring-yours-maryland-sheriff-to-obama

 

[stonesfan129]

Hey, I didn't amend your posts. You keep typing "your movement". Even when I have clearly expressed where I stand.

You are North American. This has been going on in North America since the beginning. Social media is why we see more and we voice more of all goings on today. It's getting harder for people that do dirt, to hide the dirt they do. Add to that, anyone that speaks out of turn, has potential to be seen as a threat or menace.

http://departed.co/when-you-come-for-my-guns-you-better-bring-yours-maryland-sheriff-to-obama

What does this have to do with the topic being discussed? You still have not told me what good reason the New Black Panthers have for showing up at the RNC with weapons? Just because something is legal doesn't mean it is a good idea.

 

[Harry6784]

One of many stories that will never show up on the front page:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/1...less-teen-who-biked-six-hours-to-college.html

But hey, don't let facts and reasoning stand in the way of the BLM movement.

 

[prousonhairy]

Shooting in Baton Rouge. 7 officers shot, 3 dead.

 

[fumunaplz]

The BLM is a joke to me, nothing more than thugs looking for a thrill. What is their main goal if they have one and what will they do if it's accomplished?

I found this video very compelling in the fact that something indeed needs to be done, anyone who bothers to watch it will realize there are good people fighting the fight in the right way.

 

[McLaren]

Hey, I didn't amend your posts. You keep typing "your movement". Even when I have clearly expressed where I stand.

You are North American. This has been going on in North America since the beginning. Social media is why we see more and we voice more of all goings on today. It's getting harder for people that do dirt, to hide the dirt they do. Add to that, anyone that speaks out of turn, has potential to be seen as a threat or menace.

http://departed.co/when-you-come-for-my-guns-you-better-bring-yours-maryland-sheriff-to-obama

There you go again bringing up the past as if there was any way I could possibly affect what someone generations ago did.

You keep defending BLM with the same talking points they all do, so as far as I'm concerned, you'll keep getting labeled as a supporter by me. You change the subjects (BLM to Indians and Jews to KKK & now gun rights) and don't acknowledge anyone who counters you, either. You just post a link that you think does your arguing for you.

Your link doesn't add anything. It's an officer stating a fact; there will be a lot of violent confrontation if the govt tried to seize all the weapons in the US. But what the hell does that now have anything to do with what social media exposing dirty people? Nothing.