Thrustmaster T-GT Wheel Thread

[PocketZeven]

First time poster!

I also eagerly await your answer on tyre flex feel @PocketZeven

I have been wondering for a month now whether to get a T-GT just for the enhanced GT Sport feel.

I've had a T500 RS since 2013, and knowing that I can bring my rims, pedals and TH8RS to the same party is a reason for considering the purchase. If I did, I'd take my T500 base to my PC which lacks a steering wheel cockpit or any setup whatsoever. I'm eager to try all those ISI platform games.

So basically, my purchase rests upon whether there is more 'feel' with a T-GT or whether it's just advertising. Will it make me faster because I can feel the edge of the grip?

It won’t make you faster. It is tire feel is translated in the “normal” FFB. So don’t expect too much. It is like a buttkicker and gives you more environmental feedback. It is primeraly more an immersion thing. But in combination with the sound, regular FFB and DFB it might give you that millisecond? Need some more time with it and keep you posted.

 

[FPV MIC]

Just got my T-GT delivered and after mounting it on my playseat challenge tried it with GTsport, AC and PC2 for an hour or 2. I haven’t dialed in my settings yet, but these are my first impressions coming from a G29.

Build quality
The power supply is huge and heavy, which immediately gave me the impression this is going to be one powerful wheel! On pictures the rim seemed a little toyish and expected it to be more in line with the g29 rim, but its one well built and heavy steering wheel. All the buttons are better quality and have a positive click. I am also impressed with the shifting paddles. The wheel is very smooth and way more powerful then my G29! I tried all games with standard settings but I’m sure I will need to dial the FFB down to get used to the power! Mentioned in the reviews I’ve seen there is indeed some cogging when you make small movements when you’re idle or not racing. You won’t notice any of that during a race. And much much better then a g29.

T3PGT
The pedalset impressed me, because some were complaining about the build quality. The pedal arms are heavy duty and I like the comical brake mod better then the rubber in the g29. Also I noticed two small holes behind the pedals on top of the pedaldeck. These are a definite reference to the TRS official Loadcell addon that is floating around in Thrustmaster limbo I found and mentioned in another thread. So hopefully the brake pedal can be upgraded to a Loadcell soon!

Gt sport
It recognized the wheel without any issues. My first impression of the DFB-T feature is that it was much more subtle then I expected. Before the g29 felt a little dead compared to the FFB in AC or PC2 but now it felt more alive and adds to the immersion. You feel very detailed rumble depending on the road texture I used 5/5 settings and will probably need to start with less power to get used to the torque this wheel delivers. Very impressed indeed!

Assetto Corsa
In other mode the wheel needed to be set as “preset” in options menu. FFB very powerful and get the same detail from my g29. No compatibility issues in the 20 min I played.

Project cars 2
Recognized as a T300 and no compatibility issues in other mode. In “raw” (I used informative with g29) I felt the g29 seemed a little dead and underwhelming. But with the T-GT, the wheel came alive and started to try ripping my hands off! I will definitely need to dial the FFB down before I play it again.

To be honest I was very impressed with the power and speed. But it wasn’t that huge an upgrade from a g29. Which i know now is actually a very good wheel that can give detail just like these “high end” wheels. Just a little louder and less smooth (cogging). As you can see, the experience was pretty much plug and play. And I only needed to unplug the wheel when changing from GT mode to other mode.

Will I try the CSLE? I’m not so sure it can improve a lot more then the T-GT. Perhaps the LC pedals?
But in the end it will probably be more of a choice in ecosystem and thrustmaster seems to be going all in, with partnerships with sparco and Ferrari.

Thanks for your review. Mine arrives next Monday so it's good to see an honest impression. I'll be coming from a T500rs, so not quite as much of a power difference, and I also have a Buttkicker on my seat. Having shakers on both ends of my rig is something I'm looking forward to, and the ability to add an load cell brake would complete my rig (and maybe that add on LED display), if it gets released. Thanks again and looking forward to here more after you've had more time with it.

 

[7HO]

Are you telling me people spend $800+ for a T-GT Wheel?!?!

Wow, talk about disposable income. Thrustmaster is laughing all the way to the bank!

Oh wait, and then more $$$ for a stand, pedals and shifter?!?! And all to play a video game, lol!

Too funny.

When I was a child we had a Pacman arcade machine in our room which cost more even back then. And people still spend more on old Arcade machines. I have a MTB and a BMX that is worth more, I have guitars that are worth more and then you have my amps. No one has to spend that much but if you enjoy it why not? What else do we work for if not to spend the money on the things we enjoy.

I'm not saying the T-GT is good value, I actually think the price is just nasty and yet I'm really contemplating getting one myself. I weld up my own sim rigs though.

It won’t make you faster.

If true then I'm not sure it is worth the money. OSW and Fanatec V2.5 wheels have been repeatedly documented as making people faster.

 

[Steve White]

Steve, side not here because I haven't really been able to find an answer to this.

I'm sorry if I missed above whether you have the CPX v1 or 2. I have the v1 and it works great with my TX and my Fanatec CSR pedals. However, I have been considering upgrading to the fanatec v3 pedals.

Arre you running the above with the CPX 1 or 2?

I have tried to contact basher boards as to whether the 1 will work with the v3 pedals and I have not received a response.

Thank you in advance for your response.

I think its the v2 because I just purchased it from basher a week ago. I believe the version 1 has chrome dials.

 

[Steve White]

Good to hear that you like your stuff! How about that buttkicker effect when using the T-GT on GT Sport? How big of a different is is compared to a standard wheel like T300 or G29 or perhaps CSL Elite if you tried any of them? In sim racing girls video the cogging/gearing is even visible, how do feel it? Thanks!

The T-DFB adds to the immersion enough that I wish it was in all games and as far as the cogging/gearing this is the first thrustmaster wheel I have ever had or tried out. I have been a long time fanatec customer but like PocketZeven said, if you sit there and turn the wheel slow you will feel it but in the heat of racing you will never notice it. Its a great wheel but its a great wheel that should have been priced at 600 not 800. Those that can take advantage of the 25% off should have no regrets.

 

[Tone_GTR]

The T-DFB adds to the immersion enough that I wish it was in all games and as far as the cogging/gearing this is the first thrustmaster wheel I have ever had or tried out. I have been a long time fanatec customer but like PocketZeven said, if you sit there and turn the wheel slow you will feel it but in the heat of racing you will never notice it. Its a great wheel but its a great wheel that should have been priced at 600 not 800. Those that can take advantage of the 25% off should have no regrets.

The more i use this wheel, the more i like it, works amazing in Gt-Sport, The transducer (if that's what its called) gives deep rumbles and vibration right down to the pedals on my GT Omega Wheelstand.. Love it. Am sure this option will be more widely used on PC games given the chance (sure, Sony can probably stop this feature being used in other PS4 Games) But i don't know if they can stop it being used on the PC.

I just wish that the PC sims would hurry up and patch their games to have a set profile for this wheel already (looking at you PC 2)

 

[Racetee]

Am sure this option will be more widely used on PC games given the chance (sure, Sony can probably stop this feature being used in other PS4 Games) But i don't know if they can stop it being used on the PC.

I'm pretty sure, it's burned deep down in the hardware, so noone else than GT games are able to use it (without hardware changes). Otherwise, they wouldn't need to make a hardware switch for GT mode, but firmware could easily detect it (and make it easier for somebody to crack the firmware).

 

[7HO]

I'm pretty sure, it's burned deep down in the hardware, so noone else than GT games are able to use it (without hardware changes). Otherwise, they wouldn't need to make a hardware switch for GT mode, but firmware could easily detect it (and make it easier for somebody to crack the firmware).

The thing is nothing is stopping any manufacturer making a wheel with vibration effects and making it available for any game. In the PC world you have been able to do it for a long time it's just complicated and expensive as it is for now. Years ago David Tucker mentioned something to the effect that if hardware manufacturers built a wheel like this iRacing would probably support it. It may be the case that the feature is locked down on the T-GT in a way that would make developers not want to interact with it leaving it to 3rd parties to crack which would only happen if the wheel was popular but at the price PC guys will most likely stick with DD wheels and the top end Fanatec wheel. keep in mind Fanatec are coming out with their own DD wheel which might only be slightly more expensive than this so I imagine PC guys who don't already have an OSW or Accuforce might wait for that rather than buying a very expensive belt driven wheel that based on this thread might not even be on par with the current Fanatec V2.5 wheel.

Anyway getting back to my point, what I really wanted to say is if this feature stays locked down but another wheel comes out with the same feature that works with all other games then you know which wheel people will be using. this feature isn't unique and Thrustmaster/PD did not invent it, they just released the first commercial wheel with this feature factory installed. But the wheel option for Simvibe has been available and been used for years.

 

[BuckFly]

I think its the v2 because I just purchased it from basher a week ago. I believe the version 1 has chrome dials.

Thank you, Steve. Still waiting on an answer from basher.

 

[Ekenbullets]

The T-DFB adds to the immersion enough that I wish it was in all games and as far as the cogging/gearing this is the first thrustmaster wheel I have ever had or tried out. I have been a long time fanatec customer but like PocketZeven said, if you sit there and turn the wheel slow you will feel it but in the heat of racing you will never notice it. Its a great wheel but its a great wheel that should have been priced at 600 not 800. Those that can take advantage of the 25% off should have no regrets.

Thanks for the info! Its hard to decide If I wanna have the 25% I will have to use a reshipping service and that is ok but I dont know if that effects the guarantee is something happens to the wheel or pedals. Right now Im leaning more towards Fanatec CLS elite w loadcells but maybe the update from T300 aint worth the money...Stumbled across buttkickerinfo, have you used it or know much about it?

 

[Ekenbullets]

Thanks man, really appreciate your comments and reflections. Its a tought decision and my mind changes as yours but right now Im leaning towards CLS with loadcell. Thinking about checking up those buttkickerthings, have you checked them out? What is actually the next step up from t-gt/csl elite that works with Ps4 and games like GT Sport, any that is fairly easy to get going with or just lots of adapters and endless tuning, would you know?

Just got my T-GT delivered and after mounting it on my playseat challenge tried it with GTsport, AC and PC2 for an hour or 2. I haven’t dialed in my settings yet, but these are my first impressions coming from a G29.

Build quality
The power supply is huge and heavy, which immediately gave me the impression this is going to be one powerful wheel! On pictures the rim seemed a little toyish and expected it to be more in line with the g29 rim, but its one well built and heavy steering wheel. All the buttons are better quality and have a positive click. I am also impressed with the shifting paddles. The wheel is very smooth and way more powerful then my G29! I tried all games with standard settings but I’m sure I will need to dial the FFB down to get used to the power! Mentioned in the reviews I’ve seen there is indeed some cogging when you make small movements when you’re idle or not racing. You won’t notice any of that during a race. And much much better then a g29.

T3PGT
The pedalset impressed me, because some were complaining about the build quality. The pedal arms are heavy duty and I like the comical brake mod better then the rubber in the g29. Also I noticed two small holes behind the pedals on top of the pedaldeck. These are a definite reference to the TRS official Loadcell addon that is floating around in Thrustmaster limbo I found and mentioned in another thread. So hopefully the brake pedal can be upgraded to a Loadcell soon!

Gt sport
It recognized the wheel without any issues. My first impression of the DFB-T feature is that it was much more subtle then I expected. Before the g29 felt a little dead compared to the FFB in AC or PC2 but now it felt more alive and adds to the immersion. You feel very detailed rumble depending on the road texture I used 5/5 settings and will probably need to start with less power to get used to the torque this wheel delivers. Very impressed indeed!

Assetto Corsa
In other mode the wheel needed to be set as “preset” in options menu. FFB very powerful and get the same detail from my g29. No compatibility issues in the 20 min I played.

Project cars 2
Recognized as a T300 and no compatibility issues in other mode. In “raw” (I used informative with g29) I felt the g29 seemed a little dead and underwhelming. But with the T-GT, the wheel came alive and started to try ripping my hands off! I will definitely need to dial the FFB down before I play it again.

To be honest I was very impressed with the power and speed. But it wasn’t that huge an upgrade from a g29. Which i know now is actually a very good wheel that can give detail just like these “high end” wheels. Just a little louder and less smooth (cogging). As you can see, the experience was pretty much plug and play. And I only needed to unplug the wheel when changing from GT mode to other mode.

Will I try the CSLE? I’m not so sure it can improve a lot more then the T-GT. Perhaps the LC pedals?
But in the end it will probably be more of a choice in ecosystem and thrustmaster seems to be going all in, with partnerships with sparco and Ferrari.[/QUOTE

 

[FPV MIC]

@Ekenbullets , I have a Buttkicker on my rig and can honestly say that it's a definite step up in the immersion factor. The thing is with it that it's effectiveness varies greatly with several factors. Positioning of the shaker on your rig and the game you're playing are just two of the factors. Project Cars was by far the best experience I've had with my Buttkicker (gearshifts & kerb feel are outstanding), but I've heard PCars 2 is nowhere near as good for shakers. AC and GT games (5, 6 and Sport) are okay but just not on the same level as PCars 1. I've also used it on Dirt Rally but it's more of just a constant rumbling vibration rather than the more definite feel you get from other titles. It's also a case of how much you're going to spend, in this case more (shakers) is better.

Have a look in here, this guy really knows his stuff.👍

Tactile Info & Buyers Guide / Comparisons / Opinions - Work In Progress

 

[PocketZeven]

Thanks man, really appreciate your comments and reflections. Its a tought decision and my mind changes as yours but right now Im leaning towards CLS with loadcell. Thinking about checking up those buttkickerthings, have you checked them out? What is actually the next step up from t-gt/csl elite that works with Ps4 and games like GT Sport, any that is fairly easy to get going with or just lots of adapters and endless tuning, would you know?

In my own research if you’re ps4 only, the options are quite limited for buttkickers. Pc have software like simvibe to give you more control. It’s also not really plug and play because ps4 doesn’t support multichannel output (I play with Bluetooth headphones) so I would need a lot more cables running through my setup, because a buttkicker gamer also has a separate amplifier control unit. And that beats the whole point for having a console rig (plug and play).

In my opinion the closest you will get to -a buttkicker effect is the T-GT which is plug and play. unless you are planning to use the wheel also with PC.

CSLE still has some issues (which will be resolved by the end of this year, according to the ceo of fanatec). Also you can get the CSL pedals separately down the road if you really want loadcell pedal or wait for the official thrustmaster loadcell mod (€99 if it is released at all).

I’ve decided to keep the T-GT by the way, because I personally think the dfb feature adds more to the immersion then a loadcell brake. If I can get my hands on a CPX adapter by the end of the year I may upgrade my pedalset to CSP v3 or CSL elite. But in the mean time I’m satisfied with the T3PGT pedalset and happy with the choices I have to upgrade within the thrustmaster ecosystem. The products i’m probably going to buy:

- 599 Evo rim or Sparco 383 rim
- Ferrari F1 rim
- TH8A shifter

Upcoming (unofficial)
- TM Open Wheel
- BT LED display
- Sparco TSSH sequential & handbrake

The only step up from CSLE/T-GT is moving to a PC or get a GIMX setup with DD wheel. But that’s definitely not plug and play.

 

[FPV MIC]

In my own research if you’re ps4 only, the options are quite limited for buttkickers. Pc have software like simvibe to give you more control. It’s also not really plug and play because ps4 doesn’t support multichannel output (I play with Bluetooth headphones) so I would need a lot more cables running through my setup, because a buttkicker gamer also has a separate amplifier control unit. And that beats the whole point for having a console rig (plug and play).

It's really not that hard to set up a Buttkicker. You only need one extra power point, a couple of bolts to hold it to the back of the seat, and then I just plugged my Buttkicker into the TV headphone jack, it's not ideal but it does the job. Sure the T-GT is plug and play, but it will only do the front half of your rig. The ideal combo for me is a Buttkicker on the seat, T-GT , CPX adapter and Fanatec V3 pedals, then everythings shakin'.

 

[Ekenbullets]

It's really not that hard to set up a Buttkicker. You only need one extra power point, a couple of bolts to hold it to the back of the seat, and then I just plugged my Buttkicker into the TV headphone jack, it's not ideal but it does the job. Sure the T-GT is plug and play, but it will only do the front half of your rig. The ideal combo for me is a Buttkicker on the seat, T-GT , CPX adapter and Fanatec V3 pedals, then everythings shakin'.

Thanks for the info! So what buttkickerstuff do you have? Gamer 2 and a amp?

 

[FPV MIC]

Thanks for the info! So what buttkickerstuff do you have? Gamer 2 and a amp?

This one. https://www.pagnianimports.com.au/buttkicker-products/buttkicker-simulation-kit.html

edit: Ideally I should be using one of these in the link below, but they're just far too expensive for what they are here in Australia, like everything else
https://www.jaycar.com.au/hdmi-1-4-audio-extractor/p/AC1741

 

[Ekenbullets]

@Ekenbullets , I have a Buttkicker on my rig and can honestly say that it's a definite step up in the immersion factor. The thing is with it that it's effectiveness varies greatly with several factors. Positioning of the shaker on your rig and the game you're playing are just two of the factors. Project Cars was by far the best experience I've had with my Buttkicker (gearshifts & kerb feel are outstanding), but I've heard PCars 2 is nowhere near as good for shakers. AC and GT games (5, 6 and Sport) are okay but just not on the same level as PCars 1. I've also used it on Dirt Rally but it's more of just a constant rumbling vibration rather than the more definite feel you get from other titles. It's also a case of how much you're going to spend, in this case more (shakers) is better.

Have a look in here,

@Ekenbullets , I have a Buttkicker on my rig and can honestly say that it's a definite step up in the immersion factor. The thing is with it that it's effectiveness varies greatly with several factors. Positioning of the shaker on your rig and the game you're playing are just two of the factors. Project Cars was by far the best experience I've had with my Buttkicker (gearshifts & kerb feel are outstanding), but I've heard PCars 2 is nowhere near as good for shakers. AC and GT games (5, 6 and Sport) are okay but just not on the same level as PCars 1. I've also used it on Dirt Rally but it's more of just a constant rumbling vibration rather than the more definite feel you get from other titles. It's also a case of how much you're going to spend, in this case more (shakers) is better.

Have a look in here, this guy really knows his stuff.👍

Tactile Info & Buyers Guide / Comparisons / Opinions - Work In Progress

guy really knows his stuff.👍

Tactile Info & Buyers Guide / Comparisons / Opinions - Work In Progress

Nice to hear! Great if you can tell what buttkicker setup you have for your ps4 and how it is rigged, spare me no details! Maybe a buttkicker and the T-GT could make me believe I am a racedriver

 

[Ekenbullets]

This one. https://www.pagnianimports.com.au/buttkicker-products/buttkicker-simulation-kit.html

edit: Ideally I should be using one of these in the link below, but they're just far too expensive for what they are here in Australia, like everything else
https://www.jaycar.com.au/hdmi-1-4-audio-extractor/p/AC1741

Your suggested combo is attractive. T-GT back on top of my list? Got a playseat evolution and that buttkicker might be hard to mount on it, I will have to check.

 

[FPV MIC]

Nice to hear! Great if you can tell what buttkicker setup you have for your ps4 and how it is rigged, spare me no details!

That is for the PS4, the bonus of running it from the headphone jack is that it also works for my PS3. I have a splitter coming out from the headphone jack that runs my mini LFE and my Logitech 2.1 computer speakers like these in the picture below. The sub woofer sits under my seat.

 

[kikie]

Shall I get this DD wheel or wait for the Thrustmaster DD wheel?

I'm intrigued by this new Fanatec DD wheel. But I have to be honest that I don't really feel good about the reliabitly issues of the Fanatec products.

Damnit, I used the wrong thread again. What's wrong with me.

 

[Tone_GTR]

In my own research if you’re ps4 only, the options are quite limited for buttkickers. Pc have software like simvibe to give you more control. It’s also not really plug and play because ps4 doesn’t support multichannel output (I play with Bluetooth headphones) so I would need a lot more cables running through my setup, because a buttkicker gamer also has a separate amplifier control unit. And that beats the whole point for having a console rig (plug and play).

In my opinion the closest you will get to -a buttkicker effect is the T-GT which is plug and play. unless you are planning to use the wheel also with PC.

CSLE still has some issues (which will be resolved by the end of this year, according to the ceo of fanatec). Also you can get the CSL pedals separately down the road if you really want loadcell pedal or wait for the official thrustmaster loadcell mod (€99 if it is released at all).

I’ve decided to keep the T-GT by the way, because I personally think the dfb feature adds more to the immersion then a loadcell brake. If I can get my hands on a CPX adapter by the end of the year I may upgrade my pedalset to CSP v3 or CSL elite. But in the mean time I’m satisfied with the T3PGT pedalset and happy with the choices I have to upgrade within the thrustmaster ecosystem. The products i’m probably going to buy:

- 599 Evo rim or Sparco 383 rim
- Ferrari F1 rim
- TH8A shifter

Upcoming (unofficial)
- TM Open Wheel
- BT LED display
- Sparco TSSH sequential & handbrake

The only step up from CSLE/T-GT is moving to a PC or get a GIMX setup with DD wheel. But that’s definitely not plug and play.

Apparently there is a load cell coming out also for our pedals from TM

 

[PocketZeven]

Apparently there is a load cell coming out also for our pedals from TM

Its not 100%. The product had been floating in limbo since 2013. Which is a big shame!

 

[iamjomu]

I've had my T-GT for 2 days now and I'm one happy camper! The transducer thingamabob is great and it really gets the whole rig rumbling! It's a huge upgrade from my T150 Pro. Aside from the finish, the pedal set included with the T-GT are identical to the T3PA set. I'm glad to report the T-GT mounts very nicely to the Playseat Challenge!

 

[FPV MIC]

I've had my T-GT for 2 days now and I'm one happy camper! The transducer thingamabob is great and it really gets the whole rig rumbling! It's a huge upgrade from my T150 Pro. Aside from the finish, the pedal set included with the T-GT are identical to the T3PA set. I'm glad to report the T-GT mounts very nicely to the Playseat Challenge!

Good to hear, thanks. 👍

....and welcome to GTPlanet

 

[Ekenbullets]

Anyone got a valid discount code for T-GT in Thrustmastershop? I have tried actrollvision25 and Greekman25 but both are unvalid now.

 

[Ekenbullets]

New review out at gamereactor. Its in swedish but will be published on the english site but if you cant wait there is always google translate. The reviewer gives 8 out of 10 and writes that CSL elite is a better wheel in general but that the experience with T-GT and GT Sport is fantastic. https://www.gamereactor.se/hardvara/541863/Thrustmaster+TGT/

 

[PocketZeven]

Anyone got a valid discount code for T-GT in Thrustmastershop? I have tried actrollvision25 and Greekman25 but both are unvalid now.

greekman of wrc gamersclub claimed it was valid until 20 November. Maybe it’s a mistake in the webshop? I asked greekman on YouTube. Hopefully get a response. Will let you know.

EDIT Also asked on Twitter @goGreekman
EDIT2: he is waiting for an answer from Thrustmaster
EDIT3: there was another code BAM25 (till 20 November, but also not working.

 

[PocketZeven]

New review out at gamereactor. Its in swedish but will be published on the english site but if you cant wait there is always google translate. The reviewer gives 8 out of 10 and writes that CSL elite is a better wheel in general but that the experience with T-GT and GT Sport is fantastic. https://www.gamereactor.se/hardvara/541863/Thrustmaster+TGT/

Hopefully the discount will still work soon. Or you can wait till Black Friday deals. At € 799 I would have bought the CSLE. Till now I don’t have any regrets at all using the T-GT, but overpriced at that price without any upgrades to the pedalset. But bare in mind Thrustmaster products go down in price more regularly then Fanatec.

 

[Tone_GTR]

Hopefully the discount will still work soon. Or you can wait till Black Friday deals. At € 799 I would have bought the CSLE. Till now I don’t have any regrets at all using the T-GT, but overpriced at that price without any upgrades to the pedalset. But bare in mind Thrustmaster products go down in price more regularly then Fanatec.

I have no regrets either, Also got the shifter and pro pedals.. not sad at all lol

 

[PocketZeven]

Anyone got a valid discount code for T-GT in Thrustmastershop? I have tried actrollvision25 and Greekman25 but both are unvalid now.

Bad news mate:

I was Just about ordering the 599 rim. Too many T-GT’s for €600 maybe got some other retailers angry?