Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman

[TRC GeorgiaDawg]

There does seem to be an awful lot of racism sprouting from this case, and is completely unnecessary, unhelpful and irrelevant to the events which occurred.

I did that quiz/survey which was linked to on the previous page, and it was very interesting indeed. The media once again comes through with flying colours in this case (!)

This is the real danger of the actions of words of the racial terrorists like Sharpton. They are creating racism in this country. As a white guy from the south, I've spent my entire life fighting against the sterotypes placed on me by mostly the same type of people crying racism over this trial. Which are that because where I'm from and the color of my skin I must be a redneck, or a inbred and always a racist. It doesn't matter that I've always had minority friends, have went out of my way to help people less fortunate than me or that I've actually cut ties with former friends who would offend me by using racist language. To those people I'm always just going to be billy bob redneck out to lynch somebody. Same as the way these people automatically attacked Zimmerman as a racist just because they thought he was white.

And it's really sad in that I don't like any of Obama's politics. Thought it was a awful day for the country both times he got elected. But the one positive I took out of the whole thing was that the fact he got elected should have stood as a example to those that follow people like Sharpton that this is NOT a country full of racists. Blacks make up something like 15 percent of the population. Obama doesn't get elected twice without overwhelming votes from whites. Further, you look around and there are successful black people everywhere. Jay Z and Oprah have been made rich beyond the dreams of kings because of white people in this country. But instead of people looking at Obama and realizing that anyone can be anything (including President) in this country, it's reverse. There's actually more race baiting and phony cries of racism than ever before.

The racial terrorists along with the civil rights industry seem to want a race war. If the trends of today continue, it might just happen as people start to think that if they're going to be branded as racists anyways, they might as well be racist.

 

[Blackman]

I am black 37 yrs old just got into politics and i am thoroughly disgusted by the medias portrayal of georgr zimmerman as guilty and inciting race wars between blacks and whites i never knew the media did such things i watched the whole trial and i came to the conclusion that George Zimmerman was not guilty than i watched the new s i almost dropped dead when i saw commentator after commentator lie and twisty everything and make it like george was guilty i lost all respect for trayvons parents and all its a shame check black people are not supporting Zimmerman news media Fox news were the only o nes telling the truth for what reasons I don't know but i agreed with them

 

[Blackman]

Trayvon martin was a thug and there are plenty of them in the ghetto

 

[Slash]

I'll just leave this here. I always had a hunch Zimmerman was innocent.

 

[Blackman]

I'll just leave this here. I always had a hunch Zimmerman was innocent.

I had a hunch to i know there are bad black kids who do bad things I was one of them I used to beat up random people for fun when I heard the story every black person I knew was like oh let's were goodies to support trayvon i thought the kids might of stayed I don't know why black people are acting so known like black ghetto kids don't beat people up and rob people the black people know that some black Kidd are bad as hell

 

[Slash]

I had a hunch to i know there are bad black kids who do bad things I was one of them I used to beat up random people for fun when I heard the story every black person I knew was like oh let's were goodies to support trayvon i thought the kids might of stayed I don't know why black people are acting so known like black ghetto kids don't beat people up and rob people the black people know that some black Kidd are bad as hell

I'm cool with everyone and I don't believe anyone is bad until I have proof otherwise.

 

[McLaren]

It's not unwittingly at all, extorting dollars out of law suites and keeping their fabricated cause alive. It's good business and they stay in the spot light.

I'm hoping you meant to put that in quotation marks.


Both men are some of the most racist, bigoted men in the country. It's amazing Jackson will jump on the case of any black person killed by a non-black, yet he won't acknowledge the black-on-black crime that happens in the northeastern cities.
Sad that the only reason the mainstream media run to these 2 is because they know they will "stir the hornets' nest" with their comments with these sort of cases. Otherwise, they fall back into obscurity.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I'm hoping you meant to put that in quotation marks.


Both men are some of the most racist, bigoted men in the country. It's amazing Jackson will jump on the case of any black person killed by a non-black, yet he won't acknowledge the black-on-black crime that happens in the northeastern cities.
Sad that the only reason the mainstream media run to these 2 is because they know they will "stir the hornets' nest" with their comments with these sort of cases. Otherwise, they fall back into obscurity.

I guess you are talking about Jackson and Sharpton. I would think that Sharpton running his awful lackadaisical non-sense on MSNBC, he'd hang up his "pro black marches".

 

[arora]

I'm hoping you meant to put that in quotation marks.

I did, figured it went without saying. Am I not clear enough in my thoughts? Or perhaps for the casual reader I should be more precise

 

[McLaren]

I did, figured it went without saying. Am I not clear enough in my thoughts? Or perhaps for the casual reader I should be more precise

I figured as much, but some of the things posted in the Opinions forum at times don't always come across as one might assume, leaving you with a, "Wait? Really!?" thought.

That's all.

 

[Mikeybc]

It's not unwittingly at all, extorting dollars out of law suites and keeping their fabricated cause alive. It's good business and they stay in the spot light.

Absolutely, its just I'm not so sure their primary intent is to widen the racial divide but just to take advantage if it to make money and stay in the spotlight.

 

[a6m5]

For many in power, those things go hand-in-hand.

 

[BobK]

Trayvon Martin's Hoodie Eyed for Smithsonian Exhibit

So a teenage gangsta wannabe assaults a watchman, gets shot and killed as a result of it, and ends up in the Smithsonian?!?

 

[FoolKiller]

Trayvon Martin's Hoodie Eyed for Smithsonian Exhibit

So a teenage gangsta wannabe assaults a watchman, gets shot and killed as a result of it, and ends up in the Smithsonian?!?

National Museum of African American History and Culture.

The case did have an effect of African American race relations and the hoodie stood out as a symbol. Whether it was justified or not, this case did create a ripple effect in American culture. It will be examined for years to come.

 

[Touring Mars]

Perhaps they should add a vending machine that sells Arizona Watermelon and Skittles for good measure. (Robitussin is BYOB).

 

[hogger129]

National Museum of African American History and Culture.

The case did have an effect of African American race relations and the hoodie stood out as a symbol. Whether it was justified or not, this case did create a ripple effect in American culture. It will be examined for years to come.

It will probably be next to OJ's glove.

 

[a6m5]

I guess the Museum wants to send a strong message, huh?......

They will choose a doctored 911 call by lame-stream media over actual police evidence, documented past of George Zimmerman(close ties with black people), or the lie detector test.

Maybe they realize what idiot racists some people have been, and wants to honestly record the event to prevent it from happening again in the future? Something tells me that, somewhere in L.A., Don Cheadle is shaking his head......

 

[FoolKiller]

I guess the Museum wants to send a strong message, huh?......

They will choose a doctored 911 call by lame-stream media over actual police evidence, documented past of George Zimmerman(close ties with black people), or the lie detector test.

Maybe they realize what idiot racists some people have been, and wants to honestly record the event to prevent it from happening again in the future? Something tells me that, somewhere in L.A., Don Cheadle is shaking his head......

No matter the facts of the case, it is a standout example of how things work when it comes to racial tensions in this country. They could represent both versions of the story and all the facts and it is still a notable moment in race relations. It fits their museum, however they present it.

 

[a6m5]

I have skeptical impression of where they stand with this, but I think the bottom line is: $$$

 

[Omnis]

They should focus on positive things like Pacman Jones's birthday cake.

 

[BobK]

I have skeptical impression of where they stand with this, but I think the bottom line is: $$$

There is no charge to visit the Smithsonian.

 

[a6m5]

There is no charge to visit the Smithsonian.

I thought increase in draw would equal increase in funding?

 

[BobK]

I thought increase in draw would equal increase in funding?

Well there is that, I suppose. I will say, though, that I have no sudden urge to rush down to Washington to check out a sweatshirt with a hole in it, nor do I know anyone else offhand who would either.

Now if it were a new exhibit in the Udvar-Hazy annex, that's a different story.

 

[a6m5]

I will say, though, that I have no sudden urge to rush down to Washington to check out a sweatshirt with a hole in it, nor do I know anyone else offhand who would either.

Well, were any people you know jumping up & down calling Zimmerman a racist, or KKK? People I've spoken with weren't buying the racism crap either, but we both know that much of the public did, and sometimes, just controversy alone would help museums stay relevant by stirring crap up. It's my guess that they are selling the same way the news media were.

 

[Zenith]

It's a hoodie with a hole in it. I can't see what insights we can get about its owner or the case. I remember that Osama Bin Laden's AK was recently put in a museum. It was a standard gun. So what?

 

[FoolKiller]

It's a hoodie with a hole in it. I can't see what insights we can get about its owner or the case. I remember that Osama Bin Laden's AK was recently put in a museum. It was a standard gun. So what?

What insights do you gain from Archie Bunker's chair, Fonzie's leather jacket, or Dorothy's ruby slippers? Museums preserve artifacts from historical moments in culture as much as they create an educational tool.

In my town we have the Kentucky History Museum. What is special about Daniel Boone's axe, knife, or musket? They are the same as all the settlers. What insight can I draw from a preserved log cabin?

Trayvon Martin's hoodie is a symbol that was used during the racial debate caused by this case. Deserved or not, his death created racial tensions nationwide that we are still hearing about today. In a museum that will likely focus on those things it will be a historical artifact displayed from that event, and the event will be the actual focus of the exhibit.

I think art museums have no insight, but I understand their goal and purpose and don't write them off as pointless.

 

[Zenith]

What insights do you gain from Archie Bunker's chair, Fonzie's leather jacket, or Dorothy's ruby slippers? Museums preserve artifacts from historical moments in culture as much as they create an educational tool.

In my town we have the Kentucky History Museum. What is special about Daniel Boone's axe, knife, or musket? They are the same as all the settlers. What insight can I draw from a preserved log cabin?

Trayvon Martin's hoodie is a symbol that was used during the racial debate caused by this case. Deserved or not, his death created racial tensions nationwide that we are still hearing about today. In a museum that will likely focus on those things it will be a historical artifact displayed from that event, and the event will be the actual focus of the exhibit.

I think art museums have no insight, but I understand their goal and purpose and don't write them off as pointless.

Good point, using any object from a historical event is a good way to introduce and draw attention a story.

But to take your Daniel Boone reference, his stuff and house highlight some of the big differences between his lifestyle and the way we live today. The log cabin and tools tell stories that would take paragraphs to explain. Martin's jacket doesn't tell much. It's a jacket with a hole in it. I suppose that's what I hope to receive from museums. If I'm going to get off my butt to see look at something which was a part of an even that I already know about, I want it to provide me something difficult to get through reports.

The jacket and slippers are a good example of what you're talking about though. Those pieces and the hoodie get almost all of their value from association.

Yes, I'll happily leave art museums out of this.

 

[niky]

We're not the only clients of the museum. This exhibit will be kept for a long time (possibly) as a marker for future generations.

As such, it's not evidence for the case, or something obscure, but an easily recognizable symbol or object attached to the event. Like a piece of the Berlin Wall, or wreckage from 9-11. It's merely there to record the event, not to explain it.

 

[FoolKiller]

Ultimately, I think the importance of this case is yet to be seen. We have an opportunity to turn it into a teachable moment, and racial profiling can have little or no role in that. If we remove the racial profiling we still have a discussion about how the criminal justice system treats race differently (I do believe the case would be different if Zimmerman had died, for multiple reasons), how we each bring in our preconceived notions (read the first few pages from this thread), how media approaches things, and even the role of political figures in criminal cases.

If nothing else, I'd put this in a journalism museum.

 

[a6m5]

Amen to that.