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Update 1.15 now available
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- islaygaz
Wonder if we’ll see the first ’new engine parts to swap’ in this update (https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gt7/news/00_3426773.html)
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High compression pistons:
Aftermarket high compression pistons almost always are what’s called oversize. So for example a stock piston might be 82.5mm in diameter, the aftermarket piston is 83mm. Fitting these pistons requires a rebore of the cylinders. To remove the 83mm pistons would mean the stock 82.5mm pistons are then not compatible with the block. In real life, there would be no reason to attempt to reverse the process of fitting high compression pistons. And nobody would be crazy enough.
High lift camshaft:
Arguably you could revert to a standard profile cam. But that would almost certainly mean accompanying upgrades such as valves and lifters would be mismatched. Again, in real life you’re going to be hard pushed to find anyone that’s attempted to go back to stock camshafts because of this.
Weight Reduction:
Stage 1, and maybe Stage 2 could/should be reversible. Without booting up the game to reference PD’s description of the first stage(s) of weight reduction, it’s impossible to say for sure, but assuming it consists of things like a lightweight bucket seat and removal of interior trim, rear seats, carpet and sound deadening, yes those things could arguably be reversible. But the more extreme methods of weight reduction are permanent. Roofs are cut off, replaced with carbon or aluminium. Panels are drilled with a hole saw, and so on. Look up the ‘world’s lightest Porsche 911’ and you’ll see what I mean.
Widebody:
If a widebody is done correctly, ie in such a way that allows the track to be widened and the wheels and tyres take advantage of the extra room, original quarter panels and wheel arches are cut and removed, and the widebody kit becomes the new arches. Removing the widebody would reveal a monstrosity of a body, that would undoubtedly be unfit for roadworthiness.
Crankshaft:
Much like the cams and pistons, removal of a crank would require stripping the engine down to a certain degree, and risking running an unbalanced engine due to the deletion of balance shafts and other supporting alterations that were carried out with the installation of the racing crankshaft. Once again, you could do it, but in real life there’s no real reason to open that can of worms.
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- schlafhund
The Tokyo Tomahawk grind is awful. And I say that as someone who’s done ~6,000 kms of it. It may not happen in tomorrow’s update but eventually it’ll be gone. That thing really should be miles away from meeting said regulations.
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I hope there are more quality-of-life improvements.
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- CorrivalCarp112
People will always find a way. Everytime they rebalance the PP, there will always be new setups. It will never be gone.
Some people really enjoy it to get some of the most expensive cars. They're gonna enjoy it until there's races that rewards more credits in less time, as long that's not there; people are always going to set the Tomahawk up for Tokyo. People like myself really enjoy it.
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It only has ~290 real cars, and that simply isn't very many compared to past full price numbered GT games. Not everyone has the same tastes so the more cars you add, the more likely more people are going to be happy.
Plus only 56 of them are totally brand new, the rest all came from GTS or older GT games. So the list is nor particularly fresh, it's a lot of the same cars people have been driving for years and are a bit tired of.
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- oppsijustkilledu
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The Tomahawk isn't the problem, it's a symptom of the problem which does need fixing.
The problem is that you can fox the PP system with bizarre settings that make no sense; the Tomahawk being able to hit under 600PP is a symptom of that - and not actually one of any concern. Where the concern lies is doing that in competitive online races with vehicle settings available, to create vastly overpowered vehicles that somehow meet regulations.
Until it's fixed, we've got BOP events with the dopey stock toe and camber settings. Fixing it will also stop the Tomahawk glitch, but that's not the purpose of doing so.
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Yeah. But i think if t'PD reajust the pp, people will always find another to make it work 😉😀
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It's becoming concerning how many people think their guesses for the third car are correct, when it literally only takes a momentary glance to see all the details that don't line up.
It will likely be something very obscure, or wholly original, but throwing out random guesses without so much as taking a look at them side by side is just annoying.
It will likely be something very obscure, or wholly original, but throwing out random guesses without so much as taking a look at them side by side is just annoying.
If they will add only 3 events, it will be a big disaster! I just hope Kaz read this forum and will understand what we need to get for fun.
Custom races shows that AI is great, and the most of custom events even don't need to add manual changes for ballance. For example, I add 12lap Gr2 (Suzuka, Dragon Trail, Fuji, Lake Maggiore, Autopolis) and it's a great battle, even more inteteresting that the half of exist events. 15 Gr2 events can be generated for 1 day. Why it wasn't released yet?
Custom races shows that AI is great, and the most of custom events even don't need to add manual changes for ballance. For example, I add 12lap Gr2 (Suzuka, Dragon Trail, Fuji, Lake Maggiore, Autopolis) and it's a great battle, even more inteteresting that the half of exist events. 15 Gr2 events can be generated for 1 day. Why it wasn't released yet?
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- islaygaz
So we did! I forgot about that. Guess it’s because hens teeth are much more common than engine swaps!
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Yep, I’m with you. Toy cars, used to exploit a glitch. It’s a bit ugly for me. Not my thing at all.
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Unless they've removed the transmission from PP calculation altogether I don't think the update will effect the Tomahawk glitch. There are just way too many variables to account for with transmission, tires, ballast, ECU, power restrictor, brakes, LSD, suspension, downforce all being a part of the calculation... Kind of baffling they added so many things as it's a recipe for game-altering glitches.
I could see them taking the lazy way out and adding a tag to the race entry screen saying "no Tomahawk, VGT's, Gr. 1's, etc" while leaving the PP calculation a broken mess. Which would be the worst of both worlds: no more easy credits and the wonky PP calculation remains, meaning a continuation of BoP-only races in Sport mode. BoP and I don't get along, so as long as it remains the only way to engage with Sport mode that's one less content vector in the game for myself and many others that prefer tuning.
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- TPCDangerSashimi
PP problem wouldn't be so much of a problem if the Tune Shop tuned cars.
In the store have a quick, mathematically optimized tune for parts purchased. Doesn't have to the best tune, just "professional". If another tune comes along and beats that, then that tuner should earn some reputation for beating the computer. Over time master tuners will emerge.
In the store have a quick, mathematically optimized tune for parts purchased. Doesn't have to the best tune, just "professional". If another tune comes along and beats that, then that tuner should earn some reputation for beating the computer. Over time master tuners will emerge.
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Mmmmm
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