WRC Modern Classics Club

[Adam Barber]

Is there any rule against switching cars mid season? If so I'd consider switching to the Impreza or even the Escort Cosworth.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Is there any rule against switching cars mid season? If so I'd consider switching to the Impreza or even the Escort Cosworth.

No specific rule against it, more realistic to stick with one car but it’s entirely your call.

 

[Adam Barber]

No specific rule against it, more realistic to stick with one car but it’s entirely your call.

Thanks, while I like the Galant I know I could be doing better in something else.

 

[Adam Barber]

That run was bittersweet, swapped to the Impreza and had some really good pace but a small mistake and a puncture at the end of stage 4 ruined me. Over the next two stages I dropped about 2 minutes with that puncture as I didn't have a spare for some reason and a damaged radiator nearly cooked my engine. Repaired as much as I could and pushed like hell at the end to claw back what time I could.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Total finishers in Corsica: 5. Finishers so far in New Zealand with a week to go: 12.

I’m actually delighted with my run, best run of the season so far, not quick enough to keep up with @Speedster502 but the Impreza is certainly stronger here.

 

[RYAN]

Really happy with my run. 👍 One Spin on SS2 was the only major mistake I made.

 

[ScottPuss20]

I'm a long way back in dead last after a truly disastrous run where pretty much everything went wrong.

 

[RYAN]

I'm a long way back in dead last after a truly disastrous run where pretty much everything went wrong.

We all have those rallies sometimes. You made it to the finish, That's all that counts. 👏

 

[galahad]

After both DNFs on Portugal and Corsica, I really enjoyed New Zealand! These wide and fast rallies are definitely my cup of tea. Hope I can hold the P2 or podium finish at least! RDA was close but unreachable, well raced.

 

[RYAN]

After both DNFs on Portugal and Corsica, I really enjoyed New Zealand! These wide and fast rallies are definitely my cup of tea. Hope I can hold the P2 or podium finish at least! RDA was close but unreachable, well raced.

18 seconds is virtually nothing over an hours worth of driving. GG

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

It's nice to make it to the end of one of these again! Not a perfect run and I was a bit rusty for the first few stages (I've barely played since EA released the untested update) but things got better as it went on, until I binned it for a second puncture on the final stage. New Zealand is a great fun rally when you get into a decent rhythm though.

 

[Darrenersmit]

18 seconds is virtually nothing over an hours worth of driving. GG

That's the way I'm looking at it, despite being last. I was only a few seconds from being 5 or 6 places higher

 

[MagpieRacer]

Rally New Zealand is complete, a strong rally with plenty of finishers, a car cry from Corsica. @RYAN took the win, going back to back after winning in Corsica, showing the Ford is fast on any surface. @galahad took a strong P2 after back to back DNFs, helping guide Subaru to a strong result. Backed up by @space_wadet who guided his Subaru to final podium spot.
@Hasnain282 scored important points for Toyota as well, with @GOTMAXPOWER the highest finishing Mitsubishi runner in 9th. @Speedster502 managing 7th place in his quest to fight for the championship.

Rank	DisplayName	Vehicle	Time	DifferenceToFirst	Platform
1	RDA-JETS	Ford Escort RS Cosworth	0:54:31	0:00:00	STEAM
2	j0se-2501	SUBARU Impreza 1995	0:54:50	0:00:18	STEAM
3	Space_Wadet	SUBARU Impreza 1995	0:55:48	0:01:17	STEAM
4	Hasnain282	SUBARU Legacy RS	0:56:18	0:01:47	PSN
5	JabierFailure	Ford Escort RS Cosworth	0:56:21	0:01:50	STEAM
6	BenAFC14	SUBARU Impreza 1995	0:56:30	0:01:59	XBOX
7	Speedster502	Ford Escort RS Cosworth	0:56:48	0:02:16	PSN
8	magpieracer	SUBARU Impreza 1995	0:57:13	0:02:42	XBOX
9	GOTMAXPOWER	Mitsubishi Galant VR4	0:57:19	0:02:48	PSN
10	fourpegs	SUBARU Legacy RS	0:57:30	0:02:59	XBOX
11	NathannW94	Ford Escort RS Cosworth	0:57:31	0:02:59	PSN
12	HajduPeti	Ford Escort RS Cosworth	0:58:44	0:04:12	PSN
13	Alex_Iv73	SUBARU Legacy RS	0:58:49	0:04:18	XBOX
14	mistrelwood	SUBARU Legacy RS	0:59:44	0:05:12	PSN
15	furzelburzel	Mitsubishi Galant VR4	0:59:55	0:05:24	PSN
16	AhoTerunen	Mitsubishi Galant VR4	1:00:00	0:05:28	STEAM
17	WRC Player	SUBARU Impreza 1995	1:00:45	0:06:14	STEAM
18	half_sourly	Ford Escort RS Cosworth	1:00:59	0:06:27	PSN
19	SM_Limbo	SUBARU Legacy RS	1:01:01	0:06:30	PSN
20	thewrathofwhat	Mitsubishi Galant VR4	1:01:02	0:06:31	STEAM
21	ABarber95	SUBARU Impreza 1995	1:01:30	0:06:59	PSN
22	miljan426	SUBARU Impreza 1995	1:01:54	0:07:23	PSN
23	9d1c43eb87fa5a79	SUBARU Impreza 1995	1:02:15	0:07:44	PSN
24	c07aea92ce6efb26	Mitsubishi Galant VR4	1:04:27	0:09:56	PSN
25	darrenersmit82	Mitsubishi Galant VR4	1:06:29	0:11:57	PSN
26	CheetahsMeow	Mitsubishi Galant VR4	1:25:03	0:30:32	PSN

In the championship standings, this elevates @RYAN 22 points clear of @Speedster502 with JabierFailure sitting in P3.

DisplayName	Rank	PointsAccumulated
RDA-JETS	1	194
Speedster502	2	172
JabierFailure	3	159
Hasnain282	4	154
GOTMAXPOWER	5	135
HajduPeti	6	131
Alex_Iv73	7	113
Dreadmed	8	104
NathannW94	9	99
magpieracer	10	96
furzelburzel	11	95
mistrelwood	12	93
Space_Wadet	13	83
j0se-2501	14	82
RedFox14rus	15	72
ABarber95	16	72
thewrathofwhat	17	68
fourpegs	18	64
half_sourly	19	61
vilkku394	20	58
tomo875	21	57
Voloha1954	22	56
RuggishThuggish	23	46
AhoTerunen	24	45
darrenersmit82	25	40
WinterOx2367652	26	40
Gomaevo	27	39
BelgianWaffle78	28	34
kunihiroT92	29	34
DarkSmaile977	30	34
miljan426	31	33
c07aea92ce6efb26	32	33
BenAFC14	33	32
frankiestail	34	31
Neomone	35	30
tikotaker	36	26
Unholy_Knifer	37	24
WRC Player	38	23
Hoganloaf	39	22
skolll-T_T	40	22
Takashi_IRINATSU	41	21
TheAudioPulse	42	19
sinotov2008	43	19
WRC Player	44	18
Akkuschreiber	45	17
SM_Limbo	46	16
micmacbat	47	15
9d1c43eb87fa5a79	48	12
To_FasT4_You_Bud	49	12
0002kitty	50	12
lebowski2	51	11
BrighToon1961	52	9
yasun2020	53	9
Dino233	54	9
Jeuson95	55	8
CheetahsMeow	56	8
DaniB58	57	7
Sw1ftySwift	58	7
WRC Player	59	7
widdler	60	6
cortecz	61	6
Ujhuuu8iolk	62	5
noro14	63	5
yengecyunusc	64	5
MaraV1	65	4
Hultberg420	66	3
emiliojes	67	3
Grigory18rus	68	2
cvbdrfdpf8ti	69	2
SharkyOB	70	1
Jam_Fallon	71	0
juniorjohan	72	0
MasaTaroWRC	73	0
Devilsoldier96	74	0
P308R	75	0
Houskic	76	0
moemoekyuuun	77	0
TaldirokBad9327	78	0
anasterion00	79	0
FiveHoleCole	80	0
sarukaiseki31	81	0
yuzabulow	82	0
DaaaneLA	83	0
KeccaA_RacinG	84	0

In the constructors, it is Ford who are leaping out ahead, with Mitsubishi struggling to score points, a 98 point gap has now opened up. Subaru are now within 20 points of Mitsubishi as well with a huge upturn in performance from the Impreza.

Rank	Manufacturer	Points
1	Ford	203
2	Mitsubishi	105
3	Subaru	86
4	Toyota	63

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________

The real 1995 New Zealand rally was another Colin McRae masterclass, after just 1 podium in the first 4 events, he needed a big result and after dominating this rally in 1993 and 1994, it was his for the taking, and he duly took his first win of the season, by 44 seconds over Didier Auriol. It wasn't all perfect for Subaru, with Carlos Sainz missing the event through injury, Richard Burns and Possum Bourne were in to back up McRae. Burns retired after damaging his radiator prior to a water splash which killed his car whilst Possum Bourne split the Fords in 7th.
The Toyotas struggled as the longer ST205 couldn't cope as well with the switchback roads, but still managed 2nd 3rd and 4th. Whilst Tommi Makinen, who was leading after Day 1, crashed on SS10 after marking a corner incorrectly.

Drivers’ championship points​

1 Auriol 51
2 Sainz
= Kankkunen 50
4 McRae 40
5 Deleçour 36
6 Mäkinen
= Eriksson 28

 

[MagpieRacer]

Welcome everyone to the 8th Telstra Rally Australia. After the high speed roads of New Zealand, we stay down under for the tighter and rougher roads of South West Australia. Expect the gravel to be rough, with unforgiving junctions, big jumps and some fast, forest sections tying it together.
The forecast is mostly dry, but due to the springtime nature of the rally, there may be damp areas and stages.

Itinerary:
Day 1:
Shakedown
Morning Service
SS1: Marrinup - 8.7km
SS2: Harvey Weir - 7.7km
Lunchtime Service
SS3: Harvey Weir 2 - 7.7km
SS4: Marrinup 2 - 8.7km

Overnight Service
Day 2
SS5: Bunnings East - 9.1km
SS6: Brunswick - 14.6km
Lunchtime Service
SS7: Bunnings East 2 - 9.1km
SS8: Brunswick 2 - 14.6km

Overnight Service
Day 3
SS9: Muresk - 6.3km
SS10: Muresk 2 - 6.3km



​

Spoiler

Marrinup = Kebun Raya Solok
Harvey Weir = Loeboekmalaka
Bunnings East = Gunung Tujuh
Brunswick = Sungai Kunit
Muresk = Moearaikoer

​

 

[space_wadet]

Happy I could salvage a podium spot after the big time loss on S6 due to dead tires. But it meant I had new tires for a recovery on the last 4 stages which was fun.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Happy I could salvage a podium spot after the big time loss on S6 due to dead tires. But it meant I had new tires for a recovery on the last 4 stages which was fun.

Yeah, phenomenal drive on the fresh tyres. P9 after SS6 overall, immense push, 3 stage wins in those last 4 as well.

 

[Speedster502]

Glad I got to the end of that one and somehow remained in the points. A great little battle with @MagpieRacer though!

I have a little more time this week to tackle this round so may need to put some work in to get hooked up on gravel a little more. As @RYAN has proved, the Escort can be quick on gravel...so I'm clearly doing something wrong 😂

 

[space_wadet]

Yeah, phenomenal drive on the fresh tyres. P9 after SS6 overall, immense push, 3 stage wins in those last 4 as well.

Thanks I did practice a bit more than usual, but at least I kept it clean. I'll be sure to read the race director's event notes more closely from now on however.

I have a little more time this week to tackle this round so may need to put some work in to get hooked up on gravel a little more. As @RYAN has proved, the Escort can be quick on gravel...so I'm clearly doing something wrong 😂

I haven't driven the Escort since the prologue but I found fiddling with the diff settings helps a lot with these group A cars.

 

[Hasnain282]

What would the driver's standings look like if we used the IRL points system?

 

[RYAN]

Thanks I did practice a bit more than usual, but at least I kept it clean. I'll be sure to read the race director's event notes more closely from now on however.


I haven't driven the Escort since the prologue but I found fiddling with the diff settings helps a lot with these group A cars.

I was completely stock on NZ. I made a few changes at Corsica as the game always sets cars too high for tarmac Etc.

 

[Speedster502]

Interesting, I've ran completely standard tunes all season and felt fairly confident with the car on tarmac and snow. Just not gravel evidently.

Might have to do some sneaky pre-event testing 😂

 

[RYAN]

Interesting, I've ran completely standard tunes all season and felt fairly confident with the car on tarmac and snow. Just not gravel evidently.

Might have to do some sneaky pre-event testing 😂

I feel like I would be faster on gravel with the Impreza but that's just down to the Escorts 7spd gearbox. It's great for Tarmac but a hindrance on gravel. That's the only thing that seems off to me on gravel for the Escort. The tendancy to understeer for me was fine on NZ as its so highspeed that's sort of what I'd want for safety's sake. Maybe not the fastest in the slower bits but atleast it gives confidence at speed.

 

[Adam Barber]

Rally New Zealand is complete, a strong rally with plenty of finishers, a car cry from Corsica. @RYAN took the win, going back to back after winning in Corsica, showing the Ford is fast on any surface. @galahad took a strong P2 after back to back DNFs, helping guide Subaru to a strong result. Backed up by @space_wadet who guided his Subaru to final podium spot.
@Hasnain282 scored important points for Toyota as well, with @GOTMAXPOWER the highest finishing Mitsubishi runner in 9th. @Speedster502 managing 7th place in his quest to fight for the championship.

Rank	DisplayName	Vehicle	Time	DifferenceToFirst	Platform
1	RDA-JETS	Ford Escort RS Cosworth	0:54:31	0:00:00	STEAM
2	j0se-2501	SUBARU Impreza 1995	0:54:50	0:00:18	STEAM
3	Space_Wadet	SUBARU Impreza 1995	0:55:48	0:01:17	STEAM
4	Hasnain282	SUBARU Legacy RS	0:56:18	0:01:47	PSN
5	JabierFailure	Ford Escort RS Cosworth	0:56:21	0:01:50	STEAM
6	BenAFC14	SUBARU Impreza 1995	0:56:30	0:01:59	XBOX
7	Speedster502	Ford Escort RS Cosworth	0:56:48	0:02:16	PSN
8	magpieracer	SUBARU Impreza 1995	0:57:13	0:02:42	XBOX
9	GOTMAXPOWER	Mitsubishi Galant VR4	0:57:19	0:02:48	PSN
10	fourpegs	SUBARU Legacy RS	0:57:30	0:02:59	XBOX
11	NathannW94	Ford Escort RS Cosworth	0:57:31	0:02:59	PSN
12	HajduPeti	Ford Escort RS Cosworth	0:58:44	0:04:12	PSN
13	Alex_Iv73	SUBARU Legacy RS	0:58:49	0:04:18	XBOX
14	mistrelwood	SUBARU Legacy RS	0:59:44	0:05:12	PSN
15	furzelburzel	Mitsubishi Galant VR4	0:59:55	0:05:24	PSN
16	AhoTerunen	Mitsubishi Galant VR4	1:00:00	0:05:28	STEAM
17	WRC Player	SUBARU Impreza 1995	1:00:45	0:06:14	STEAM
18	half_sourly	Ford Escort RS Cosworth	1:00:59	0:06:27	PSN
19	SM_Limbo	SUBARU Legacy RS	1:01:01	0:06:30	PSN
20	thewrathofwhat	Mitsubishi Galant VR4	1:01:02	0:06:31	STEAM
21	ABarber95	SUBARU Impreza 1995	1:01:30	0:06:59	PSN
22	miljan426	SUBARU Impreza 1995	1:01:54	0:07:23	PSN
23	9d1c43eb87fa5a79	SUBARU Impreza 1995	1:02:15	0:07:44	PSN
24	c07aea92ce6efb26	Mitsubishi Galant VR4	1:04:27	0:09:56	PSN
25	darrenersmit82	Mitsubishi Galant VR4	1:06:29	0:11:57	PSN
26	CheetahsMeow	Mitsubishi Galant VR4	1:25:03	0:30:32	PSN

In the championship standings, this elevates @RYAN 22 points clear of @Speedster502 with JabierFailure sitting in P3.

DisplayName	Rank	PointsAccumulated
RDA-JETS	1	194
Speedster502	2	172
JabierFailure	3	159
Hasnain282	4	154
GOTMAXPOWER	5	135
HajduPeti	6	131
Alex_Iv73	7	113
Dreadmed	8	104
NathannW94	9	99
magpieracer	10	96
furzelburzel	11	95
mistrelwood	12	93
Space_Wadet	13	83
j0se-2501	14	82
RedFox14rus	15	72
ABarber95	16	72
thewrathofwhat	17	68
fourpegs	18	64
half_sourly	19	61
vilkku394	20	58
tomo875	21	57
Voloha1954	22	56
RuggishThuggish	23	46
AhoTerunen	24	45
darrenersmit82	25	40
WinterOx2367652	26	40
Gomaevo	27	39
BelgianWaffle78	28	34
kunihiroT92	29	34
DarkSmaile977	30	34
miljan426	31	33
c07aea92ce6efb26	32	33
BenAFC14	33	32
frankiestail	34	31
Neomone	35	30
tikotaker	36	26
Unholy_Knifer	37	24
WRC Player	38	23
Hoganloaf	39	22
skolll-T_T	40	22
Takashi_IRINATSU	41	21
TheAudioPulse	42	19
sinotov2008	43	19
WRC Player	44	18
Akkuschreiber	45	17
SM_Limbo	46	16
micmacbat	47	15
9d1c43eb87fa5a79	48	12
To_FasT4_You_Bud	49	12
0002kitty	50	12
lebowski2	51	11
BrighToon1961	52	9
yasun2020	53	9
Dino233	54	9
Jeuson95	55	8
CheetahsMeow	56	8
DaniB58	57	7
Sw1ftySwift	58	7
WRC Player	59	7
widdler	60	6
cortecz	61	6
Ujhuuu8iolk	62	5
noro14	63	5
yengecyunusc	64	5
MaraV1	65	4
Hultberg420	66	3
emiliojes	67	3
Grigory18rus	68	2
cvbdrfdpf8ti	69	2
SharkyOB	70	1
Jam_Fallon	71	0
juniorjohan	72	0
MasaTaroWRC	73	0
Devilsoldier96	74	0
P308R	75	0
Houskic	76	0
moemoekyuuun	77	0
TaldirokBad9327	78	0
anasterion00	79	0
FiveHoleCole	80	0
sarukaiseki31	81	0
yuzabulow	82	0
DaaaneLA	83	0
KeccaA_RacinG	84	0

In the constructors, it is Ford who are leaping out ahead, with Mitsubishi struggling to score points, a 98 point gap has now opened up. Subaru are now within 20 points of Mitsubishi as well with a huge upturn in performance from the Impreza.

Rank	Manufacturer	Points
1	Ford	203
2	Mitsubishi	105
3	Subaru	86
4	Toyota	63

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________

The real 1995 New Zealand rally was another Colin McRae masterclass, after just 1 podium in the first 4 events, he needed a big result and after dominating this rally in 1993 and 1994, it was his for the taking, and he duly took his first win of the season, by 44 seconds over Didier Auriol. It wasn't all perfect for Subaru, with Carlos Sainz missing the event through injury, Richard Burns and Possum Bourne were in to back up McRae. Burns retired after damaging his radiator prior to a water splash which killed his car whilst Possum Bourne split the Fords in 7th.
The Toyotas struggled as the longer ST205 couldn't cope as well with the switchback roads, but still managed 2nd 3rd and 4th. Whilst Tommi Makinen, who was leading after Day 1, crashed on SS10 after marking a corner incorrectly.

Drivers’ championship points​

1 Auriol 51
2 Sainz
= Kankkunen 50
4 McRae 40
5 Deleçour 36
6 Mäkinen
= Eriksson 28

What's annoying looking at this is because I lost 2 minutes to a puncture is have gained 7 places without that

 

[Speedster502]

I feel like I would be faster on gravel with the Impreza but that's just down to the Escorts 7spd gearbox. It's great for Tarmac but a hindrance on gravel. That's the only thing that seems off to me on gravel for the Escort. The tendancy to understeer for me was fine on NZ as its so highspeed that's sort of what I'd want for safety's sake. Maybe not the fastest in the slower bits but atleast it gives confidence at speed.

Yeah, I think I tend to lean towards a slightly more oversteer orientated car on gravel so the natural understeer just gives me a lack of confidence. I think that's why I felt so comfortable with the car in Sweden, the super high grip meant I could throw the car around a bit more. That's probably the last time I felt "quick" on a loose surface anyway.

 

[MagpieRacer]

What’s quite cool is our feelings and preferences with the cars mimic real life, with the Impreza being strong on gravel and the Ford on tarmac etc.

 

[RYAN]

Yeah, I think I tend to lean towards a slightly more oversteer orientated car on gravel so the natural understeer just gives me a lack of confidence. I think that's why I felt so comfortable with the car in Sweden, the super high grip meant I could throw the car around a bit more. That's probably the last time I felt "quick" on a loose surface anyway.

Normally I'd want some oversteer too, To aide flicking around hairpins and to have a faster change of direction. The safety and forgiveness of the slight understeer in the stock setup is why I preferred it. If I was doing TT's with unlimited attempts then I would prefer the most direct, alive and responsive handling possible but that's not my preference for a long club event when no mistakes can be made. Like Petter says to Oliver "Give yourself some margin for error"

 

[Speedster502]

Normally I'd want some oversteer too, To aide flicking around hairpins and to have a faster change of direction. The safety and forgiveness of the slight understeer in the stock setup is why I preferred it. If I was doing TT's with unlimited attempts then I would prefer the most direct, alive and responsive handling possible but that's not my preference for a long club event when no mistakes can be made. Like Petter says to Oliver "Give yourself some margin for error"

That's true actually, the understeer does give a certain room for error...maybe I've just got to get good

 

[Darrenersmit]

Gutted, was cruising in the second stage. Thought I was up there then totally misses the final turn and lost a heap of time and a 20 second penalty to boot. Still time to recover.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Very difficult to build a rhythm on these stages, challenging rally this.

 

[RYAN]

Shame about all the people who can't read using Delta's in the club.

@Speedster502 I take it back, The Cossie is an understeering mess. Oceania isn't much fun 😁