2009 Singapore Grand Prix
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This race looks to be in Hamilton's lap. Barrichello after everything is still 2 places ahead of Button, which might mean nothing if he's lighter than Button (or could be good if someone does a Piquet early in the race). On the other hand Barrichello had some amazing starts this year.
It's also a shame we didn't get to see people's true pace with Barrichello accident. So far my predictions look good with the exception of Ferrari.
It's also a shame we didn't get to see people's true pace with Barrichello accident. So far my predictions look good with the exception of Ferrari.
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This is a tough track to put together a good lap, so its fair to say their second laps could have been faster, maybe many of them made mistakes on their first run, maybe some of them needed to get their tyres worn in a bit more, how many times have we seen drivers set their fastest lap at the end of the session? Almost always.
I think some of them have possibly a faster pace than Hamilton but we will have to see tomorrow.
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I bet Barrichello stuffed it to help Hamilton.
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Here's the provisional grid
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Here's the provisional grid
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1. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 660.5kg
2. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 651
3. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 657.5
4. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 654.5
5. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 658
6. Timo Glock, Toyota, 660.5
7. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber, 650
8. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber, 664
9. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 664.5
10. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP, 655.5
11. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 680.7
12. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 683
13. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 680.5
14. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 678
15. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 690.9
16. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 693
17. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso, 683.5
18. Giancarlo Fisichella, Ferrari, 678.5
19. Romain Grosjean, Renault, 683
20. Vitantonio Liuzzi, Force India, 656- 10,373
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- Ardius_
I'm not denying their first effort was weak, I am saying that Hamilton's pole may not be entirely respresentative of his relative pace.
I'm just putting it in perspective, its not like everyone got two runs and they didn't beat Hamilton.
Anyway, I will be watching for Glock as he's on for grabbing some Toyota points finally.
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Indeed, Lewis is best placed but I think Rosberg could trump him in the race, that lap in Q2 was the best of the weekend. If we had had the "normal" Q3 and Lewis was P4 then I don't think you'd be so sure of his pace being so superior (though he would still be well placed especially with KERS).
Rosberg, the RBRs and the Brawns have also been fast all weekend till Q2/Q3, practice means little.
Rosberg, the RBRs and the Brawns have also been fast all weekend till Q2/Q3, practice means little.
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Why are you looking at the BBC result??? Go to F1 official website and Heidfeld is faster than Kubica... Go and check the result back before saying something like that mate!!
- Nick Heidfeld - 1'49.307s
- Robert Kubica - 1'49.514s
I think I should be the one who need to call a taxi for you
Peter
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I mean, I think that crash was staged. Vettel, a title contender goes purple, and then BAM, Rubens, another title contender, ahead of Vettel, crashes so that Vettel, the title contender, will have his purple lap ruined, and so that Hamilton, a non-title contender, can keep pole and get in Vettel's way for the title. Or just a damn coincidence!
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They like to live dangerously, you know... that's why they're F1 drivers.
I can see it now... Rubens calls Romain in his trailer... asking him "hey, can you stuff it in practice? Y'know, so when I do, there's a precedent... we'll just tell people it's a slippery track..."
It's a conspiracy, I tell you! All those drivers are in it!
I can see it now... Rubens calls Romain in his trailer... asking him "hey, can you stuff it in practice? Y'know, so when I do, there's a precedent... we'll just tell people it's a slippery track..."
It's a conspiracy, I tell you! All those drivers are in it!
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Really? You don't think that perhaps Rubens would try for pole so he'd start 5th, 7 places ahead of Button and instead decides crash so he qualifies 5th and starts 10th, only 2 places ahead of Button. Given Rubens ability to get off the grid at the start of a race, I'd say Button will be ahead of him by turn one.
Rubens fight is with Button. Not with either Red Bull Driver. Nothing Vettel or Webber do matters at all to either Brawn driver as long as they can continue to pick up enough points, and you can't do that by deliberately crashing.
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In an attempt to get this thread back on track...
He was looking at the "fuel adjusted" grid... not the actual times...
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Why are you looking at the BBC result??? Go to F1 official website and Heidfeld is faster than Kubica... Go and check the result back before saying something like that mate!!
- Nick Heidfeld - 1'49.307s
- Robert Kubica - 1'49.514s
I think I should be the one who need to call a taxi for you
He was looking at the "fuel adjusted" grid... not the actual times...
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Sorry mate... He was looking at the ''fuel adjusted'' grid... But he shouldn't said that Heidfeld is slower than Kubica... Heidfeld is faster than Kubica...
I need to get a taxi for him... I know that Kubica has 5 more laps of fuel but Heidfeld is faster than Kubica technically..
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BBC says that fuel adjusted - Heidfeld is slower...
BBC fuel adjusted grid
This is the *actual* grid positions (they get moved up one because of Rubens)
Formula1 (non adjusted but with weights...)
But I agree - his comment is a bit confusing!
C.
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I think you miss the point of fuel-adjusting. On pure pace Heidfeld was slower because Kubica managed a time only 2 tenths off but with more fuel. The idea is that if they had the same fuel, Kubica would be faster.
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Yeah I got it... Sorry guys I missed the main point of the ''fuel adjusted'' grid... Now I got what you're saying... Sorry but Ian should made his post more understandable for those whose english is not their main language... Simply got confused when reading that and straight pointing him that he's saying Heidfeld is slower than Kubica in anyway...
We have to wait for the race to see who's the quickest between the BMW duo..
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