2014 Grand Prix du Canada

[CAMikaze]

I found "Working the Wheel", Brundle's book deep in my Motorsport archive (used to be a kitchen table). 1991 Monza he shared the winning car before being also required to share the second-place car. As a result he did indeed come 1st and 2nd

I gather he had one foot on the top step of the podium and the other on the 2nd Place step?

 

[TenEightyOne]

I gather he had one foot on the top step of the podium and the other on the 2nd Place step?

That's right, quite a feat for someone the size of a racing driver

 

[Barra333]

What if the 4x4 drivers are also motorcyclists - they're just taking the 4x4 that day?

My parents fitted into this category for several years. Until they sold the 4x4.

I haven't seen any motorcyclists texting whilst on the move yet, have you?

Just today, I have seen several texting scooterists, and a guy riding his scooter through central Palermo with a pizza box perched on his left hand.

 

[mirial]

My parents fitted into this category for several years. Until they sold the 4x4.
Just today, I have seen several texting scooterists, and a guy riding his scooter through central Palermo with a pizza box perched on his left hand.

I did mention motorcyclists, not scooterists.

Why did your parents get rid of the 4x4?

 

[Dhalism]

So I just saw Carlos Sainz Jr's FR3.5 results.
Sooo which team is he driving for next year?
Alonso Sainz for all Spanish Santander Ferrari?

 

[niky]

I did mention motorcyclists, not scooterists.

Why did your parents get rid of the 4x4?

Not scooters:

Most sports bike riders are more vigilant, precisely because of the speed of their motorcycles, and because an accident at the speeds they're capable off is almost always fatal (Instant Darwin Awards abound on the internet) which has led to a few flawed studies suggesting that sports bikes are dangerous and should be banned... while the former is true, the latter is debatable, as this doesn't apply to sports bikes alone.

While extra vigilance required to ride a bike helps avoid accidents, a lot of bikers still exercise less vigilance than they should, which is why bike accidents, in general, outnumber car accidents.

While I would give some sports bikers the benefit of the doubt and assume they're more attentive than some motorists, the same can be said of some dedicated 4x4 enthusiasts, who are also keenly aware of the size differential between their cars and other vehicles. But in general, the casual rider is apt to be just as careless as the average 4x4 enthusiast.

*Something must be said about having to drape yourself over the fuel tank, hugging the bike, makes texting difficult on sports bikes... of course... most of us aren't masochistic enough to do that on our everyday commute.

 

[mirial]

Not scooters:

Most sports bike riders are more vigilant, precisely because of the speed of their motorcycles, and because an accident at the speeds they're capable off is almost always fatal (Instant Darwin Awards abound on the internet) which has led to a few flawed studies suggesting that sports bikes are dangerous and should be banned... while the former is true, the latter is debatable, as this doesn't apply to sports bikes alone.

While extra vigilance required to ride a bike helps avoid accidents, a lot of bikers still exercise less vigilance than they should, which is why bike accidents, in general, outnumber car accidents.

While I would give some sports bikers the benefit of the doubt and assume they're more attentive than some motorists, the same can be said of some dedicated 4x4 enthusiasts, who are also keenly aware of the size differential between their cars and other vehicles. But in general, the casual rider is apt to be just as careless as the average 4x4 enthusiast.

*Something must be said about having to drape yourself over the fuel tank, hugging the bike, makes texting difficult on sports bikes... of course... most of us aren't masochistic enough to do that on our everyday commute.

Your more detailed assessment is what I was sort of getting at and I'll be more accurate next time as posts do get cross-examined on the forums, which is fair enough! However, your photos were not taken in the UK, and I do see a lot of drivers looking down/texting at the same time whilst out walking or cycling, but I haven't seen any motorcyclists at it (yet). There don't seem to be many patrol cars around either where I live, which would further encourage this....it might be different in other areas of the UK.

It's only inevitable that you're going to have a spectrum of all driving/riding habits the less unique a vehicle becomes.

Beginning a new thread on car psychology could be an interesting subject on another forum.

 

[BHRxRacer]

I'm sorry to bump this thread but I had to point this out. I checked my email to see there's a new "conversation" started, then logged in to find a friendly warning about this whole thing.

Sigh... your claim that Nico didn't set fastest lap on that cut. Do keep up dear

When did I say he didn't set the fastest time on that particular lap? Heck, when did I say he didn't gain an advantage?

This is my post right after the incident happened. Long before my reply to peasantslayer.

As far as I know the whole line judge at the wall of champions was there for qualifying, not the race. There are no known penalties for this offense. He did gain an advantage, although a small one, but it happened many times before.

zOMG FAKTSSS


I would've at least taken "oh your choice of words were poor, you shouldn't have said 'no' "but it's obvious you guys are just looking for an excuse to **** with me. I'm a fool for bothering to reply. @niky understood what I had to say very well, and actually argued my point rather than misquote and accuse.

 

[daan]

Oh do shut up.