Assetto Corsa or Project Cars

Assetto Corsa or Project Cars

  • Assetto Corsa

    Votes: 85 85.0%

  • Project Cars

    Votes: 15 15.0%
  • Total voters
    100
I don't have GT5/PS3 anymore. Sold everything in 2011 (pc, Ps3).

Maybe this is a solution for you @Fanapryde to play pCars with a triple monitor setup? With some adaption, you could make pCars look decent an a triple monitor setup. The thread is for a dual monitor setup but maybe, just maybe, it could also work with a triple setup.

I see that you have a GTX980Ti. What FPS do you get in AC with almost all the eye candy on, on your triple setup?
 
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Fanapryde
I think most of us who played GT5/GT6 rarely used cockpit cam, because it was really bad. I remember the Citroën Race car cockpit, where you could hardly see the road because of some digital screen being in the way.
Maybe you should try GT again in cockpit to compare. I think you still would not like it and switch to bumper cam... ;)

In PCars and AC I only use cockpit cam, but they are different in both sims. AC is clearly better for triple screen view (because it has the support PCars lacks), but on one screen it is easier to find the right view in PCars, because of all the possible seat settings, even while driving.
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AC as all the adjustments that pcars has with even more range most of the time when it comes to adjust seating position in cockpit view. Even while driving, if you do
not mind having one hand on the mouse and the other on the wheel, it might be better to stop the car, which is probably not a bad idea when adjusting seat position
 
kikie
I don't GT5/PS3 anymore. Sold everything in 2011 (pc, Ps3).

Maybe this is a solution for you @Fanapryde to play pCars with a triple monitor setup? With some adaption, you could make pCars look decent an a triple monitor setup. The thread is for a dual monitor setup but maybe, just maybe, it could also work with a triple setup.

I see that you have a GTX980Ti. What FPS do you get in AC with almost all the eye candy on, on your triple setup?
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Thanks, but PCars is only rendering one screen, so this is not going to work I'm afraid.
I just did some laps at Mugello, and the fps counter showed 63 as lowest value, 77 as highest. As an average I think it would end around 70 fps, all eye candy on highest settings.

EDIT: tried it at the Nordschleife and fps dropped to an estimated average of 60.
 
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Cote Dazur
AC as all the adjustments that pcars has with even more range most of the time when it comes to adjust seating position in cockpit view. Not while driving, you have to stop the car, which is probably not a bad idea when adjusting seat position
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Maybe I still have to get used to the AC settings, but I like being able to change them on the run. Easy enough with all controls mapped to my button box.
On the other hand, that may apply primarely to PCars, since you can't save the settings per car (as you can AC, which is clearly a plus for AC).
 
That programme is to get more than one monitor working in games that has no native triple monitor support, so I think I just might work.

You can adjust about anything in that programme. Width, height, horizontal/veritcal positon etc ... .
 
Fanapryde
Maybe I still have to get used to the AC settings, but I like being able to change them on the run. Easy enough with all controls mapped to my button box.
On the other hand, that may apply primarely to PCars, since you can't save the settings per car (as you can AC, which is clearly a plus for AC).
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I also found the seating adjustment in AC better than PCars because it has a wider range of adjustment and you can save it per car.
 
Fanapryde
Thanks, but PCars is only rendering one screen, so this is not going to work I'm afraid.
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When I was playing around with PCars it rendered on all three screens? It didn't give the option to adjust them so you got a bit of the warping going on but it wasn't bad.

Fanapryde
Maybe I still have to get used to the AC settings, but I like being able to change them on the run. Easy enough with all controls mapped to my button box.
On the other hand, that may apply primarely to PCars, since you can't save the settings per car (as you can AC, which is clearly a plus for AC).
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I agree, I much prefer to be able to change them on the fly while driving because I'm always making fine adjustments to my seating position. I have just about all the sims and in all of them except AC I can just reach over to the keyboard and scooch my seat around while I'm driving and I find this beneficial because often your virtual eye level is at a slightly different position when you're moving than when you're stationary, due to the virtual head movement. In AC I'll set the seat position while I'm in the pits to where I can see the important parts of the dash, like the gear indicator and rev lights, but then as soon as I start driving my virtual body has moved a bit due to the virtual g-forces and suddenly I can't see the rev lights anymore. So I have to stop, open the app, make the adjustment based on guessing, and then drive again to see if it's good.

Johnnypenso
I also found the seating adjustment in AC better than PCars because it has a wider range of adjustment and you can save it per car.
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Yes, it has two more options than most other sims, but I find the adjustments to be less convenient to make because you have to open an app and fiddle with the mouse to do it. Just my opinion of course, AC's method is serviceable, just not as easy to use as the other sims.
 
How do you adjust the turbo?



Ingame

1 .. 0: Turbo boost Management.




It doesn't seem to work.
 
kikie
How do you adjust the turbo?



Ingame

1 .. 0: Turbo boost Management.




It doesn't seem to work.
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1 through 0 on your keyboard. 1=10%, 2=20%, 3=30%, etc.

Note that it only works with the number keys above the letter keys. The numberpad doesn't work.
 
Re FOV, I can never drive using cockpit cam in GT (always use bumper cam), but when I started playing PC sims a year ago using cockpit cam comes naturally. I attribute this to the distance from where I'm sitting to the screen. When playing GT on my TV I'm sitting 1.5 meters away, but when playing PC sims I'm only 30cm away from the monitor. Playing in cockpit in GT feels like you're driving from the backseat, but on PC it feels natural, even without fixing FOV.

I tried using the FOV calculator by Project Immersion (http://www.projectimmersion.com/fov/) and ends up using the narrowest setting (my laptop screen is quite small 13 inch). I can see how it will improve accuracy because everything feels slower (you have more time to think and aim for the apex). Unfortunately with my small single screen I end up losing all my peripheral vision and ends being missing apexes a lot. So now I just use wide FOV again. Unless you have VR or triple screen I think we shouldn't be so strict on enforcing correct FOV. 1:1 dimension is great but at the end of the day you should just use what's comfortable for you and your setup 👍
 
LeGeNd-1
Re FOV, I can never drive using cockpit cam in GT (always use bumper cam), but when I started playing PC sims a year ago using cockpit cam comes naturally.
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That was my experience also. Always bumper cam in GT and only cockpit cam in AC. I'm not sure why it happened but it was easy for me to drive cockpit view in AC and hard in GT. Occasionally there is a car which has a somewhat restricted cockpit view but I see that as a characteristic of the car and just accept it.

I drive with the arms and wheel "off", my 28" monitor is right behind my wheel so the view seems pretty natural. I have FOV at 35° not the 24° -28° provided by the calculators.
 
I calcutaled the FOV using the exact dimensions of my monitor, the distance I'm stitting from the monitor and came up with almost the same FOV as the immersion website.

My FOV = 17.06

FOV of immersion = 17.07
 
there is a balance to be struck between mathematically correct FOV and one that will give you the ability to see everything you need to. If your screen isn't incredibly close and can't be moved, and your screen is not huge, having a correct FOV will result in far too small degree of visibility. So, start with "correct" and then adjust outward to the point where you feel comfortable. That's what I am forced to do because of only one screen and can't get it much closer to wheel, though it is still relatively close...
 
RReed43
That was my experience also. Always bumper cam in GT and only cockpit cam in AC. I'm not sure why it happened but it was easy for me to drive cockpit view in AC and hard in GT. Occasionally there is a car which has a somewhat restricted cockpit view but I see that as a characteristic of the car and just accept it.

I drive with the arms and wheel "off", my 28" monitor is right behind my wheel so the view seems pretty natural. I have FOV at 35° not the 24° -28° provided by the calculators.
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I drove with bumper camera in GT6 from the day I started playing in Dec 2013. I hated all other views except cockpit view, but it just seemed much easier to drive and drive fast in bumper cam. Once things really started slowing down with GT6 I made the decision to try a proper PC Sim. I wanted to go with the most immersion I could based on my setup (single monitor), so I forced myself to start driving in cockpit view in GT6. That was probably sometime around May 2015 and I finally bought Assetto Corsa at the beginning of October 2015. So, I had like 5 months of practice driving in a cockpit view. Of course, cockpit view in AC is much better than GT6 because you can adjust FOV and even your seat/drivers eye position. I could never go back to bumper cam, mainly because I feel "what's the point of driving different cars if they all look exactly the same, like nothing! A camera perched on my front bumper makes the game feel dull". Now, I would never tell anyone that they can't drive with whatever view they like, but these are my thoughts...
 
One big advantage of using cockpit view in GT6, if you enjoy a more realistic FOV, is that in cockpit view GT6 has a 3 step FOV adjustment, wide, narrow and narrower. most set up have a better FOV with narrow and narrower and in narrower, most of the cockpit view that are to say the least not so practical in GT6 because you can hardly see the track, the Citroen comes to mind, with he narrower setting, the view is not that bad.
For the more adventurous, there is also a FOV setting possible going into the triple screen set up. that allows to change FOV for all cameras. here is the link, it works the same as in GT5, after all it is the same game.;)
http://tunerspit.com/forum/showthread.php?2745-Field-of-View-Adjustmen-in-GT5
 
skazz
A poll comparing two games within the forum section for one of the two is by definition not impartial and therefore no value can be attached to the result.

(And yes, I am also in the AC camp on this, just saying)
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That's not what I'm talking about. Impartial or not, value or not, this particular person will explode when this person sees the poll. That is what I'm saying.
 
Cote Dazur
Really, some body will explode over the vote of 61 individuals in a Assetto Corsa Thread in the Assetto Corsa section of the GT Planet Forum. the same person who as sold over a million copies of his game? Really think so, I think you are funny! this might help put things in perspective.:sly:



http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2015/06/05/project-cars-one-million-copies-sold/
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This particular person can't deal with any negative information about pCars. The way this person reacts 'on the internet' when somebody says something negative about pCars, this person will do anything to shut him/her up. So, yes, I'm sure this person won't like it at all if this person reads the result of this poll (even if the result of this poll is actually meaningless). People can be very protective of something they created. Some can be overprotected no matter how many copies pCars already sold.

I'm not the one whom has to put things in perspective, this person has. :P



I like saying 'this person'. :D
 
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The blame is on both sides really. PCARS does have its fair share of problems, but internet trolls can be unbearable too at times. I'm not defending Ian's actions, but if I'm in his position I'd gradually lose my mind as well if I have to read through the PCARS forum's drivel every day.

When it comes to this, I think PD's silent treatment is quite effective (though it can be annoying sometimes) :P
 
kikie
I think I'm going to re-install pCars again give pCars another change.
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It's a great game. Graphics are amazing if you can run it maxed out and lots of car variation.

But when I want a simulator, there is only one answer.
 
Harry6784
It's a great game. Graphics are amazing if you can run it maxed out and lots of car variation.
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Yep, I know. I bought it last year but was not as much impressed as I was with AC. Removed pCars from my pc because AC is more what I want. The only thing that I like more about pCars is the amount of very beautiful tracks and the collection of English laser scanned tracks.

Harry6784
But when I want a simulator, there is only one answer.
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Assetto Corsa?
 
I am having second thoughts on AC I've had it for over a year and Road cars still handle understeery as hell in game, even the Toyota GT86 (FR sports car with near perfect weight distribution) and Audi R8. The only cars that handle good are the Racecars ie Ferrari 458 GT2 those are actually ok to drive, they feel more like driving my mums pulsar than the actual roadcars in game do

and I also really dislike 90% of the sound in game, the bumps car sound everything feels like GT6 all over. heck I might just pick up Project Cars for the online, lively physics, sound and car roster, not to mention the graphics are quite a bit above(might need a new PC).
 
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AC is just sitting unused on my Steam account. Have not used it any more since a month or so. I was too late for a refund, but since I only paid 20€ I don't feel to bad, but the game was not even worth this discount price.
I agree completely with @Grippy, and I have a bunch of other gripes, but I don't want to spend more time discussing it. ICETTA CORSA is finished for me.
 
@Grippy "(might need a new PC)" you might need a new hobby as well, if you think the cars in AC are not accurate and too difficult to drive, same goes for @Fanapryde.
Or you might want to admit that you are somehow challenged and drive with the stability assit at 50%.
I can understand some finding AC too easy, but too hard ( Icetta Corsa ) that is either trolling or pathetic.
 
Cote Dazur
@Grippy "(might need a new PC)" you might need a new hobby as well, if you think the cars in AC are not accurate and too difficult to drive, same goes for @Fanapryde.
Or you might want to admit that you are somehow challenged and drive with the stability assit at 50%.
I can understand some finding AC too easy, but too hard ( Icetta Corsa ) that is either trolling or pathetic.
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I've actually driven cars before, so quit the insults AC physic doesn't feel real enough nor satisfying and that's the only thing its got going for it. Physics.
 

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