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awr117
Well, the NSX is just too tail happy for me though. It's hard to push and not make mistakes.
DA's Super GT Series|PURE Spec 1.0|Last Round 4/14
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Well, the NSX is just too tail happy for me though. It's hard to push and not make mistakes.
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- redrobin347
I have little to no experience in an NSX. I've heard it's a tricky car to drive. A drivers car from what i hear. Master it and it will be rewarding. But from what i've seen and heard, you most be on your toes at all times.
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It is tricky to drive, that's for sure. I figured out how to conquer the aggressive oversteer but tuning it beyond that is where I suck. My ARTA needs more front bite. It seems to push, although I'd rather that over the tail-end wagging around faster than I can blink.
I used to have problems going through a few turns at Spa until I figured out the ride height issue (thanks Z). I can lap Spa fairly quick but it's been a long while since I've been there. Now when it comes to Laguna...I'm screwed. Not enough experience under my belt there.
freshseth83
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In practice I was running with a tune from on these forums, and had camber at 2.4 front and rear. It made me faster on a lap, but took tire wear up a notch. I meant to change it before we started qualifying back to my original setup, but when we switched rooms I forgot about it. So instead of getting 10 laps with softs, I ended up getting 8. There was times when I was really close to Z at the start and I could have passed him but it wouldn't be pretty. So I just followed him, but after 7 laps the tires just gave up. I usually run camber at 1.5 1.7- stupid me forgetting to change back. I dropped like a stone at the middle/end of stints.
I chose the Stealth GTR because I like the livery, and there were already a lot of NSX's being used. I don't think I would have taken an NSX anyway. I have trouble tuning out the oversteer, even though it is faster at most the tracks I tested. I just never used it much before, so the oversteer was always there and I haven't figured a way to counter it. So it uses tires up too much in my hands. Maybe I should have tried an SC430. I think for next season a two tire rule is cool, but mediums and softs, not mediums and hards! Just my thoughts.
I chose the Stealth GTR because I like the livery, and there were already a lot of NSX's being used. I don't think I would have taken an NSX anyway. I have trouble tuning out the oversteer, even though it is faster at most the tracks I tested. I just never used it much before, so the oversteer was always there and I haven't figured a way to counter it. So it uses tires up too much in my hands. Maybe I should have tried an SC430. I think for next season a two tire rule is cool, but mediums and softs, not mediums and hards! Just my thoughts.
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freshseth83
If I'm doing a 2 compound rule, it'll be with mediums and hards. More realistic imo.
Edit: The more I think about it the more I like it.
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This is pretty interesting.
I can clearly see that you're much better with the NSX compared to the other ones.
From our testing (that partly took place around Seca), we got the NSX down to 1:22.1XX.
GT-R to 1:21.1XX
SC430 to 1:20.9XX
On Hards.
So Laguna Seca is defenetly a track where the GT-R and SC430's will shine.
Soft or Hards does'nt matter imo.
Perhaps a tad, but not that much that it would erase the differences.
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- Z-Crazy
I really don't like hard tires either. They take too long to heat up and then have to be worked really hard to get a time out of them. I noticed when I found more time out of the SC430 I had to really lay-in to the rear traction that car has by aggressive throttle input.
What's really odd though, is I remember getting the the premium NSX's down to the 18's on softs and the GTR's in the 17's, but I can't get close to that anymore. Not sure what changed.
What's really odd though, is I remember getting the the premium NSX's down to the 18's on softs and the GTR's in the 17's, but I can't get close to that anymore. Not sure what changed.
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- Z-Crazy
Yeah it was just after Spec 2.0 with wear and 502hp and 1100 kgs. It was the only car other than the standard NSX's that I could break in to the 17's with. 17's in a race draft was a little easier but we were doing those times in quali.
I wish the Data Analysis tool in practice mode was a little more precise. I can see the definite braking performance difference from the NSX's to the GTR's and SC430's (about 10-15% better in the GTR's and SC's) but the lateral grip difference is not so straight forward and tough to chart without hard numbers.
Something else I noticed with the Data Anal. tool, which goes back to what Denilson was bringing up, because of the braking deficiency I was braking very early in the NSX and accelerating much earlier than in other cars. I think this is where the differences in deltas come in.
I wish the Data Analysis tool in practice mode was a little more precise. I can see the definite braking performance difference from the NSX's to the GTR's and SC430's (about 10-15% better in the GTR's and SC's) but the lateral grip difference is not so straight forward and tough to chart without hard numbers.
Something else I noticed with the Data Anal. tool, which goes back to what Denilson was bringing up, because of the braking deficiency I was braking very early in the NSX and accelerating much earlier than in other cars. I think this is where the differences in deltas come in.
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- redrobin347
I really should look at the data analysis. I never would have thought the SC430 and GTR's would have the better braking with their current weight.
I don't see myself hitting 17's at Laguna. 18's would be a small victory for me. My main focus is limiting tire wear. Pits here are a bit costly as you tour the country side leaving pit lane
I don't see myself hitting 17's at Laguna. 18's would be a small victory for me. My main focus is limiting tire wear. Pits here are a bit costly as you tour the country side leaving pit lane
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Z Crazy
Lol, he can take the Woodone and still beat me most likely.
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EDIT:
Nevermind, you're on round 9 out of 10.
I'm interested in your future series' though DA.
Nevermind, you're on round 9 out of 10.
I'm interested in your future series' though DA.
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- toyotsupra
- Jame3sBoy
What you talking about me LOL
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toyotsupra
No, someone else. Nice try though lol
I'm hoping to not lose too many points this weekend. Laguna is not my friend lol
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DA6righthand
I quite like Laguna I'm pretty fast around there I'm away this weekend maybe don't know yet I'll let you know okay?
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toyotsupra
Ok. Hopefully you make it because the field is getting awfully thin lol
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DA6righthand
Yeh it could be tight I'm away at a race weekend at oulton park don't know if I will be back in time...
freshseth83
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I'll probably stop participating in this series if we go to Hard tires. They're a joke to me. I'm in the 1:20's so far at Laguna, but that was offline quick practice.
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freshseth83
Honestly, I do not like the soft tires. The only reason the tire selection is open is because I listened to someone else.
If there's a 2 compound rule with med/hard compounds, it will make people actually drive. The grip level of the softs is way too good imo. Hards simulate real life grip the best I think. Just my 2¢
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- redrobin347
Softs to me seem more arcadish. You can throw a car into turns on racing soft tires with little worry. Hard tires will probably bite me after a full season running soft. But it sure would be fun trying to keep the power down.
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awr117
Well a 2 compound rule will be fun. If.you watch any Indy Car racing, the different compound strategy makes it interesting.
freshseth83
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It's actually the opposite, soft tires give representative grip but their life is way too short. Look at real life lap times at Fuji for example. In game we were doing 1:34's and 35's for qualifying- IRL SGT did 1:33s last year, and will be even faster this year. Suzuka we were qualifying in the 1:54s and 55's, but IRL SGT does 1:51's, and during preseason testing, the Honda HSV set a SGT lap record in the 1:48's! This is with 540hp 1100kg. While last year it was around 505hp 1100kg. So basically GT5's soft tires are even slower than real life.
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- Z-Crazy
I think Hards are garbage, but with everyone on them its not a big deal. Yes I agree that Softs seems to be a fair representation of the level of grip a racing slick (non DOT tire) has, I've only been on DOT R's like BFG R1's or Hoosier A6/R6 and they remind me of a hard tires grip. But that is a hard thing to prove because there will always be a "gumball" soft tires to choose that only lasts a few laps at a time and can't be cycled over and over.
freshseth83
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Well no hard tires for me. I'll be trying new series' if we go to those rules. I hope the best for this to go forward though.
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freshseth83
Hard tires will be like in WSGTC maybe one of the best series around : tup
Edit: BTW im doing 19.4s
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awr117
You too man I'm off to be night
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