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Actually anything that does not alter the HP or the PP can be used in a stock room.
Like my paint hacked FGT i had in the last race.

But the FGT's felt alright today not as good as it is in the time trial but not bad.
 
Endless-Wilso
Actually anything that does not alter the HP or the PP can be used in a stock room.
Like my paint hacked FGT i had in the last race.

But the FGT's felt alright today not as good as it is in the time trial but not bad.
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Like downforce.

So, for example, if smoke is generated from your tires during a time trial. Normally, physically speaking, if smoke is coming out from your tires you're transferring the energy inefficiently. If someone, somehow, was doing that during time trials and getting top times that would be odd.

Something about today has given me a really bad taste...

Don't read too far into what I'm saying, all I'm saying is stock doesn't seem to be the guaranteed solution. Furthermore... just because someone figured out hacking and let everyone know today doesn't mean other people haven't known about it for a while.

Again, don't read to far into this, just laying out the facts how I see them.
 
I dunno, maybe downforce could affect PP. Like I said, don't read too far into it.

But if the code doesn't know the difference between what you altered it to be and what is supposed to be, how does anyone know what is "stock" and what isn't?
 
IP forget about your ego for a minute. You are giving up the best F1 league out there. Its possible for AUG or your buddy ARTMAN to win a race given enough practice and setup time.
 
I have read about a grip multiplier. What does it do and can a car hacked with it enter a stock race?
 
Dont know dont care Joe. All I know is that all of us were honest non hackers and proper honest players.

Cant be arsed to type an essay but im arsed enough to type the following. I loved the 'F1 driver roleplay' we had. I loved practicing all week just to find a little bit of speed. I loved driving, trying to string many many laps together without spinning in the race. I didnt love getting taken out by other players bad driving but its all part of the 'F1 driver roleplay'. And you IMO, are giving it up because of your own insecurities.

TO ALL DRIVERS. Taking part in the FGT series is just like saying you agree with IMO and thinking AUG and maybe other are hacking. Fecking rubbish. Dont support such low opinions of his loyal drivers by taking part in the FGT series. We can start our own series. I think that between us we can tell if someone is hacking.
 
I dont care because I'll never hack to gain speed. Im an honest guy. I like to try and get better though a better driving technique and a better setup. Aug has helped with me to go faster though the setup, just like my team mate Dahlzi did last season.

I dont believe in taking the easy option in life. Im a gritty fighting type who will always take the hard option. At least in Gran Turismo anyway.
 
so , i tried once a hacked x1 just to see how it feels to have 107.000hp on a car . :)
was fun but i didn't look further as it's not an interest to me to hack for a win .
it sounds stupid to me :/

the gp/F was the first race i was really ready . did the same times on practices earlier .

i agree i impressed myself by getting away of ip , but isn't competition about finding someone faster to beat , it' now more than 1year i try to get a better f10 , i failed often , really often .
it's to easy to say i cheated .

i want to thank those who had practices with me , it's thanks to You guys that i could be fast enough :)

Loris
 
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No-one hates you man. I cant speak for everyone but I think you've had a knee jerk reaction. If it turns out AUG is legit, you and everyone else owe us one fecking big massive apology.

Im also out of the Stock F10 series. Shame because I really enjoy driving the car,
 
I only hack because it brings out more realistic possibilitys as well just some crazy stuff to goof aroundwith id never use any hacked to win an equal and fare race
The only time i ever raced a hacked car was my Audi V8 Delorean which could really exist in real life other wise all the hacks i do are for having fun with in freerun rooms and drifting like with engine swaps.

On topic here.
I know the grip multiplyer add's PP but im unsure on the downforce one .
I'll hack a FGT today and see if anything changes just to clear up confusion hear 👍
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I think your safe both grip and areo effect PP.
 
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For the record aug is vouched for by some of the fastest guys on gt5. I have great respect for IP AND AUG. Aug has been one of the top drivers for a long time in other leagues from what I hear.

I really think you should reconsider IP he's known to be one of the fastest guys on gt5. Like yourself. I doubt a guy with such an outstanding reputation and so many top drivers including gt academy finalists vouching for his speed would be lying.

Lets take this down a notch IP. Dude is legit I'm telling you IP. Lots of top guys are saying this yo me, it'd be different if he was a no name guy but he isn't brother. Please just relax and think about it, you sent me a trophy and I think you're a great guy just trust me and reconsider.
 
Hi All,

I would just like to say that i knew the series would come to an end one day, nothing runs forever right, but i never thought it would end this way.

It is a really sad end to something that was really fun and good. I shall not be taking any part in any of the series because whatever i decide to do, someone will feel betrayed and i shouldn't have to chose between people that i have know for over three years now.

I just do no like the way that people have started to finger-point and pick sides and saying some really nasty, personal stuff about each other like cheaters and sore sore losers. This is not what i signed up for, i signed up to have something to look forward to on weekends and have a bit of banter too and to also meet people from different parts of the world but it looks like that all over now.

People also need to realize that behind every PSN Name is a real person, with feelings, emotions, opinions and different values. Just jumping on the keyboard and saying whatever they have to say without thinking of the repercussions that their words will have on others is not nice.

If by some miracle PD read our old thread and gave us proof that that there was car hacking, what will people that accused aug say then?? And if they proved that there was no car hacking, then what will people that accused IMMORTAL say?? Will people actually apologize for what they said or will it lead to more finger pointing and bullying? So for the record, i do not want to know whether there was car hacking or not, whatever the outcome, it will not achieve anything.

I am not saying or doing this to seek attention, spite anyone or to make anyone feel bad, its because i care about other peoples feelings and no doubt i will get judged for that too but that's ok, i can live with it. I know i have had some issues with some of you in the past but that was only related to what happened on track, if i offended/attacked anyone personally i would like to take this opportunity to apologize. I wish that one day IMMORTAL and aug will forgive each other and move on from this, maybe even start their own league or carry on with the old one.

I wish you all the best in your series and thanks to everyone that was involved, it wouldn't have been the same without each and every one of you. I also apologize on posting on your new threads when you said you did not want to hear about this anymore, but i needed to say what i had to say before i just disappeared or dropped in randomly. My suggestion was to pause the series until PD had fixed the hacking issue, then continue with a clear conscience but that looks like it will not happen.

See you all around.
 
DrAug
so , i tried once a hacked x1 just to see how it feels to have 107.000hp on a car . :)
was fun but i didn't look further as it's not an interest to me to hack for a win .
it sounds stupid to me :/

the gp/F was the first race i was really ready . did the same times on practices earlier .

i agree i impressed myself by getting away of ip , but isn't competition about finding someone faster to beat , it' now more than 1year i try to get a better f10 , i failed often , really often .
it's to easy to say i cheated .

i want to thank those who had practices with me , it's thanks to You guys that i could be fast enough :)

Loris
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Well said Loris 👍
 
ArtMannn
Hi All,

I would just like to say that i knew the series would come to an end one day, nothing runs forever right, but i never thought it would end this way.

It is a really sad end to something that was really fun and good. I shall not be taking any part in any of the series because whatever i decide to do, someone will feel betrayed and i shouldn't have to chose between people that i have know for over three years now.

I just do no like the way that people have started to finger-point and pick sides and saying some really nasty, personal stuff about each other like cheaters and sore sore losers. This is not what i signed up for, i signed up to have something to look forward to on weekends and have a bit of banter too and to also meet people from different parts of the world but it looks like that all over now.

People also need to realize that behind every PSN Name is a real person, with feelings, emotions, opinions and different values. Just jumping on the keyboard and saying whatever they have to say without thinking of the repercussions that their words will have on others is not nice.

If by some miracle PD read our old thread and gave us proof that that there was car hacking, what will people that accused aug say then?? And if they proved that there was no car hacking, then what will people that accused IMMORTAL say?? Will people actually apologize for what they said or will it lead to more finger pointing and bullying? So for the record, i do not want to know whether there was car hacking or not, whatever the outcome, it will not achieve anything.

I am not saying or doing this to seek attention, spite anyone or to make anyone feel bad, its because i care about other peoples feelings and no doubt i will get judged for that too but that's ok, i can live with it. I know i have had some issues with some of you in the past but that was only related to what happened on track, if i offended/attacked anyone personally i would like to take this opportunity to apologize. I wish that one day IMMORTAL and aug will forgive each other and move on from this, maybe even start their own league or carry on with the old one.

I wish you all the best in your series and thanks to everyone that was involved, it wouldn't have been the same without each and every one of you. I also apologize on posting on your new threads when you said you did not want to hear about this anymore, but i needed to say what i had to say before i just disappeared or dropped in randomly. My suggestion was to pause the series until PD had fixed the hacking issue, then continue with a clear conscience but that looks like it will not happen.

See you all around.
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Take care dude.

It was a truly great racing series. I learnt a lot.

Hopefully once this issue has been cleared we can rebuild it, where talent will not come into question.
 
Endless-Wilso
I only hack because it brings out more realistic possibilitys as well just some crazy stuff to goof aroundwith id never use any hacked to win an equal and fare race
The only time i ever raced a hacked car was my Audi V8 Delorean which could really exist in real life other wise all the hacks i do are for having fun with in freerun rooms and drifting like with engine swaps.

On topic here.
I know the grip multiplyer add's PP but im unsure on the downforce one .
I'll hack a FGT today and see if anything changes just to clear up confusion hear 👍
EDIT
I think your safe both grip and areo effect PP.
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What is safe?
 
Rich S
We believe that when any car is set on "stock" then the only thing hackers can alter is the brake bias.
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Have you got any evidence for this - what testing / results have you got?

People need to be producing evidence to help the series organisors / owners to stop this "cheating", not giving out hearsay or opinion.

We've starting getting hacked cars in our organised racing, we're trying to find out how we can spot these - instead of everyone doing their own thing the series organisors/owners should be working together and sharing tests/results/data/ideas/theroies and more importantly, the PSN IDs of known "hackers".

The "hacking" is done with the manipulation of data/code within the game save - look at what people are doing now, not just engine drivetrain swaps but taking spoilers off cars..?

PROHIBITED tuning in a lobby would normally pick up any change from "stock" - but who knows whether 'stock' is determined by the car in the lobby OR the data/code in the game save?

Until someone confirms that with tests/results, going "stock" is as open to "hacked" cars as any/everything else.

There's even bugs in the game that prevents STOCK cars from entering a prohibited tuning race.

We race the Alfa '65 Guila TZ2 last week, I bought a new one and went straight into a lobby, went to go on track - I couldn't enter track?

I'd just bought it from the dealer, other guys had this too. It turned out,although "stock", the gear ratio's were NOT stock, after 'defaulting' the gear ratios I was able to go on track. Yet all I did was go straight from the new dealer to the lobby to enter track??

Same with Audi R10 2 weeks before - a totally STOCK car, but wasn't allowed on track?

We had to buy a new Audi R10.

So if that happened with an FGT in your "stock" lobby - would that mean I'd get called a "hacker"?

We're in a middle of a huge can of worms at the moment, finger pointing and accusations is not going to improve things, but working together and helping / sharing test results / info will...
 
You can prevent a hacked F1 from entering a tuned race but not a Tuning Prohibited race unfortunately. Crazy, but true.
 
Now I do play F1 2012 and I see what the time trial leaderboards look like (and what their replays look like at the top of the board :sly:) I realize that anything to do with computers is not my forte. I started out as a cycling athlete and as my knee got worse I got into GT5 racing. GT5 treated me very well seeing as how I'm not technologically well endowed. :sly: I'm no hacker, I dont know how to do "borrow glitch" or to hack anything on PS3 let along a PC. That being said GT5 has treated me well, I've won a lot here. Other game like F1 2012 cheaters running rampant haven't.

From what I've seen Oshawa, Color hacked F1s can enter a stock lobby, but I dont believe that a performance enhanced one can.

Now look, I do not hate immortal for thinking that Aug cheated him on Sunday. Its his series, he can choose where and how me wants to race. Now, IF I WERE HIM I would have handed it off to someone else and started a separate series. But you have to remember again its his choice.

The computer world is a world full of fighting and malicious wars, nerds hack everything, they've hacked in the the CIA's computers. I try to prevent myself from suffering computer damage and or being cheated in races. So far my record at racing is pretty good, I've won alot of races and I'm satisfied with that.

Just because someone has a differing viewpoint doesn't make them evil or libelous. My viewpoint is that the stock FGTs and the stock F10s dont have performance adjusted cars what with grip multipliers and power adjustments. So its a fair fight more or less. Now in the FGTs when I'm 3 seconds a lap off the fastest guy then maybe I will be suspicious but so far I'm very close and it feels better than the F10 series where there was all these guys beating me. Does that mean they were cheaters? Maybe, do I care if they cheated, not really only a little bit. :sly:
 
Rich S
From what I've seen Oshawa, Color hacked F1s can enter a stock lobby, but I dont believe that a performance enhanced one can.
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Cars with grip multiplier can be entered into Tuning Prohibited races. For most cars, the fix is to adjust the PP to where it should be and voila - car is off track.

For F1s, go have a look. Set up a lobby, select F1 cars, then make it Tuning Prohibited. See all the stuff locked out? Good. Now tell me what the PP is locked out at? I've tested it. Tuning Prohibited F1 races are not safe from grip hacked cars.
 
That's interesting Oshawa. If Leyba08 comes on tonight I'll log on with my Mic and maybe we can talk about it in his room.
 
Rich S
That's interesting Oshawa. If Leyba08 comes on tonight I'll log on with my Mic and maybe we can talk about it in his room.
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This will work if Grip was the only thing changed. That's how it was tested.
 
Joe, what type of F1s are you talking about? Because the FGTs can drive on track with any car. Doesn't multiplying grip increase PP?
 
Sorry, Ferrari F1s. Fgt's will be Ok with limits in place.
 
Yes I thought so. I like FGT much more than Ferrari F1. The Ferrari's have such a low top speed. I like the "rocket car" feel to the FGT. :sly: I want to see Vettel take on one of Senna's old cars like when Hamilton drove it at Silverstone. But on a Grand Prix day so we can see the lap times.
 
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