I ask cause i had a habit of buying racing games i didnt play much. mainly cause the wait for gt5 was driving me nuts. bought grid, gtr evolution. then a whole xbox, fm3 and the microsoft wheel. but i have a fanatec gt2 which i just got and FM4 would complement it well. i havent picked up the f1 games as there's a few f1 cars in gt5 and thats gotten me by. i play lots of other games as well other than racing so have to cut somewhere.
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I ask cause i had a habit of buying racing games i didnt play much. mainly cause the wait for gt5 was driving me nuts. bought grid, gtr evolution. then a whole xbox, fm3 and the microsoft wheel. but i have a fanatec gt2 which i just got and FM4 would complement it well. i havent picked up the f1 games as there's a few f1 cars in gt5 and thats gotten me by. i play lots of other games as well other than racing so have to cut somewhere.
Given you have a compatible Fanatec wheel, and the FM4 physics/handling feel radically improved, I'd say pick up FM4 and trade in FM3. There certainly appears to be no reason to go back to FM3. If your also considering titles in other genres (FPS) for instance . . . I guess you could hold off. Do you have game rental as an option?
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Most tracks in GT5 don't look that good.
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Looks ok. No, doesnt look like reality. Doesnt sound like it either.
Now...lets continue...since that video is one car, one track.
How about something like this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=560GPuh6Gg4 ?
See, with GT5 you can always go from a good looking track/car to horrible one in no time. At least other series have consistency. If you only want to race 1 track, with tired old model cars, more power to you...Go Go GT5.
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The fact that damage is part of racing, and part of physics, you would think GT5 would get it right....but 5 times and nothing yet. Watch the video above and see how silly it is for the Bugatti to hit a wall and not even a scratch. Let alone throwing something out of whack.
But hey, whatever floats your boat.
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Vaxtxx - Dude you just backed me up. Deep forest raceway looks great, way better than any Forza track. Look at the colours and the lighting, it looks real.
Obviously the cockpit view is a blank one, point taken but that's only because GT has 1000 cars so they couldn't do all the interiors.
Skip to about 2.40 in that video and from chase cam the Veyron looks better than Forza 4 and it's a semi standard car!
Obviously the cockpit view is a blank one, point taken but that's only because GT has 1000 cars so they couldn't do all the interiors.
Skip to about 2.40 in that video and from chase cam the Veyron looks better than Forza 4 and it's a semi standard car!
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The fact that Nurburgring is part of racing you would think that Forza 4 will get it right, 4 games in they still cant get it right. I know that damage is non-existent in GT5 which is why i find it ridiculous that someone will say that "GT5 is not a damage simulator" the same way i find it ridiculous that someone in here is saying that "Forza 4 is not a ring simulator". If you don't point out the flaws in a game seriously it will never be fixed, Turn 10 is still rocking the same Nurburgring from Forza 2 and they seem not to care because the fans are giving them a free pass. If gtplanet was not vocal after GT5's release there will be no spec 2, the same way if non of you are willing to get vocal on any Forza flaws there will never be a change. Finally they changed the physics, lets hope they start changing other things.
It's funny how the argument now is primarily the ring, the ring the ring when it was physics and the ring with Forza 3. I can think of at least 10 things that were changed with Forza 4 because turn 10 listened to the community and while the ring isn't perfect on Forza I do see change on it in 4 I just feel that the run off is far to wide. The point that the poster was making is that no game should revolve around 1 track and overall if your gripe is only the ring with Forza then that definitely means that there were changes made across the board with the game as a whole. With Gt 2.0 there are still a ton of issues with the game and im not sold on the shadow cockpit views added to the non premium cars.
. Forgot about the top gear soccer hope its as awesome as it sounds. Ill hold onto FM3 for the porsche.
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Well, Suzuka does, Fuji does, Le Mans does, High Speed Ring does, Eiger does, Toskana does, Tsukuba does, Daytona does, Indy does, Chamonix is also on the same level, I would also say Rome, Madrid and London are on the same level. The rest is up to the scenery. The only tracks which are really bad are Trial Mountain and Cote d'Azur. I also don't get the whining about Laguna Seca, it's not too detailed but you don't notice that at all while driving (lighting and texture saturation are pretty spot-on).
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You can't deny that special attention (to the lighting especially, which is the key to make it look very realistic, as shown in the video above) has gone to the Nuerburgring Nordschleife in GT5.
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If you drive other tracks with a similar lighting setting as on the Nordschleife, there's no visual difference (quality wise) at all. Try Suzuka at 25% weather and the weather changeability on 1. I was blown away when the slight clouds moved away and the sun gave the whole track a slight yellow-ish tint. Or drive on the Nordschleife in perfect conditions and then on Fuji, no difference. I actually don't really like the lighting on the normal Nordschleife without time change (the standard conditions), because it's way too dark for a sunny afternoon. The Nordschleife only seems to look better because of the scenery and the day/night cycle. Another example: Le Mans at 25 or 50% weather at 20:30, breathtaking when the sun blinds you on the way to the Indianapolis corner.
You're 100% right, but you also cannot ignore that they mailed in a huge chunk of the game, which is what all the GT5 supporters seem to do.
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Anyone try the photomode? compare to GT5?
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I think what matters most is the physics!
Between GT5 and FM4, i think we can all agree GT5 is way better/real.
Both games are supposed to be RACING SIMULATORS and that is what GT5 seems to be doing well with the most important factor of the game itself and also what FM4 fails to do.
After watching numerous videos of FM4 gameplay (i don't own FM4), i can say it looks more fun/arcade-like.
GT5 may seem boring but it does well with what it has to do, and that's being a simulator.
Between GT5 and FM4, i think we can all agree GT5 is way better/real.
Both games are supposed to be RACING SIMULATORS and that is what GT5 seems to be doing well with the most important factor of the game itself and also what FM4 fails to do.
After watching numerous videos of FM4 gameplay (i don't own FM4), i can say it looks more fun/arcade-like.
GT5 may seem boring but it does well with what it has to do, and that's being a simulator.
The key here is that you don't own FM4 and are just going by what the videos seem to be. I own both and IMO the physics argument is over now that Forza 4 is out.
Again as the original poster of this thread said It's all our opinions and you can and have submitted why you feel that the graphics are better but again as I stated earlier back on page 291 of this post in my comparison of the two take a look at the top gear test track and look at the buildings and background in both and the one in GT5 is horrid compared to Forza 4. This is not the only track that the backgrounds are sub par in IMO. Take a look at the sky in some of Gt5s tracks and see that its just a basic polygon painted backdrop and in some cases its pixelated. Compare that to the sunset of Hockenheim on Forza 4 and some of the of the other tracks. Again It's my opinion that many of Forza 4s tracks look as good or better.
At the end of the day, they're games. Calling it a simulator is nice, but it's a game. Games should be fun.
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I just responded because people always say that the Nordschleife looks better than every other track in GT5, which is simply not true. I also agree that a lot of the FM4 tracks have more details, but this doesn't change that I've yet to see a single FM4 screenshot that really stood out for me, or where I thought "wow, that looks real", except for a few Autovista shots.
I am still looking for a FM4 gameplay shot I could recreate in GT5, but all I found so far was a C63 on the Nürburgring and I don't want a new "GT5 always looks better on the 'ring but only there" argument.
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