Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2022Formula 1

[Samus]

Accidental/fake red flag. Oopsie.

 

[Dreadmed]

Yeah, couldn't see any reason why, but the TV director doing their usual sterling job of showing where the action/concern is....

I was genuinely wondering if it was one of those shunts where it's not obvious that the driver is OK. Relief and bemusement in equal measure!

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

I was genuinely wondering if it was one of those shunts where it's not obvious that the driver is OK. Relief and bemusement in equal measure!

That was the mildest incident ever to have a red flag? Maybe they were being cautious due to the nature of the track, but seems a bit premature.

 

[Shaun]

but the TV director doing their usual sterling job of showing where the action/concern is....

As per the norm for Monaco the sponsor banners come first before the action.

 

[Ej20]

Whos taking pole today guys? I think Ferrari will lock out the front row

 

[Jezza819]

As per the norm for Monaco the sponsor banners come first before the action.

I think I heard during one of the practice sessions that getting away from the local host having the race coverage is one thing F1 wants to change for this race. They control race coverage everywhere else except Monaco which is why you get things like showing sponsors instead of action.

 

[McLaren]

Whos taking pole today guys? I think Ferrari will lock out the front row

It looks that way, but Perez also looks like a man on a mission after last weekend.

 

[MagpieRacer]

I think I heard during one of the practice sessions that getting away from the local host having the race coverage is one thing F1 wants to change for this race. They control race coverage everywhere else except Monaco which is why you get things like showing sponsors instead of action.

Yeah, FOM want to show more celebrity faces and fans in apartments.

 

[Ej20]

It looks that way, but Perez also looks like a man on a mission after last weekend.

Perez looked to have the edge over max all weekend but it looks like max is closer on qualy.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Yeah, FOM want to show more celebrity faces and fans in apartments.

Instead of Rolex signs, we'll see actual Rolexes.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Woooff, that was shaping up to be pretty exciting.

 

[PaMu1337]

Well that was an interesting ending

 

[Famine]

I think I heard during one of the practice sessions that getting away from the local host having the race coverage is one thing F1 wants to change for this race. They control race coverage everywhere else except Monaco which is why you get things like showing sponsors instead of action.

I've covered this elsewhere - in a conversation about why Gran Turismo's Cote d'Azur is very much not Monaco nor will it ever be called Monaco, despite how similar it looks - but essentially Monaco's laws mean that the image rights to literally every part of Monaco belong to Monaco. Specifically they belong to the "Société des Bains de Mer", which is owned by the Monaco government and the royal family.

You can't even take photographs in Monaco without permission, and although it's generally granted (if applied for) without a fuss for personal use (like tourism), you need specific permissions for any commercial photography or video, and even more for certain areas (the palace particularly) for any reason.

They zealously guard it too, so FOM is essentially never going to get the rights to film the race.

 

[CoenRSD]

Well, that was an interesting last minute of qualifying.

 

[GroupB]

Max’s lucky season continues, as he will most likely get bumped up to net 2nd on the grid.

 

[McLaren]

Saw some folks joking Charles might bin it in Q3 as Perez/Max is on a pole-setting lap, and instead, Perez loses it as Charles is going purple again.

Think Perez was just on it trying to match LeMonaco.

 

[lancashire lad]

Well done Elvis on qualifying second 😀

 

[McLaren]

Looks like Alonso also went out at the end of Q3.

 

[PeterJB]

Here are the updated qualifying averages:

Leclerc +0.004
Verstappen +0.248
Sainz +0.294
Perez +0.318
Russell +0.865
Bottas +1.073
Norris +1.147
Hamilton +1.188
Alonso +1.231
Ocon +1.265
Gasly +1.439
Magnussen +1.549
Ricciardo +1.627
Tsunoda +1.639
Schumacher +1.724
Vettel +2.035
Stroll +2.120
Zhou +2.196
Albon +2.378
Latifi +3.155

 

[McLaren]

Language Warning

What is Max saying shouldn't be allowed here? Crashing?

 

[Bosso]

What's with the quality of the marshals today? Pointless Red Flag in Q1 which prevented some drivers from getting out of it. Then in Q3, only waving the flag whilst Sainz was turning into the corner which Perez crashed. They had plenty of time to wave the flags to warn Sainz but did so at the last second. I've got to say this year and last have been possibly the worst years in stewarding quality and consistency I've ever seen in F1.

 

[Samus]

So yes, Sainz should get away with it. Looking the video, this is the first frame at which the yellow comes on. Bit too late, he's already turning in and looking to the apex. The waved single yellow further ahead was waving sooner but should obviously have been a double, it's a blind corner.

 

[PaMu1337]

Language Warning

What is Max saying shouldn't be allowed here? Crashing?

Ending a qualy in a red flag maybe?

 

[Roggers]

So yes, Sainz should get away with it. Looking the video, this is the first frame at which the yellow comes on. Bit too late, he's already turning in and looking to the apex. The waved single yellow further ahead was waving sooner but should obviously have been a double, it's a blind corner.

I don’t think Sainz could have done anything different here.
Thats the first yellow board that Sainz sees and it’s way to late for him to be able to react.
Also with this been a single waved yellow flag Sainz doesn’t have to abort his lap. He just needs to show he lifted off the throttle like Max did at Imola.
Plus Sainz doesn’t even know Perez is stopped right on the corner exit.

If Sainz get a penalty then that is harsh!

 

[Samus]

Thats the first yellow board that Sainz sees and it’s way to late for him to be able to react.

Well yes, that's what I said. That still frame is the first point the yellow comes on, the frame before it (0.033s) isn't.

 

[McLaren]

Ending a qualy in a red flag maybe?

Was less than a minute to go, though, iirc. Wouldn't be enough time to get a lap in.

 

[PaMu1337]

Was less than a minute to go, though, iirc. Wouldn't be enough time to get a lap in.

Thinking about it more, the 2 crashed cars in front of him were also classified in front of him. Same thing happened last year with Leclerc. Some were arguing back then that if you cause a red flag, you should be taken out of the qualy classification (i.e. become last for that session). He may be thinking along those lines.

 

[Roggers]

Language Warning

What is Max saying shouldn't be allowed here? Crashing?

Well if he wants pole at Monaco he needs to do 2 things.
1. Set the quickest time on his first run
2. Be the first car out of the garage so you don’t run into these crashes or flags. Even if he was ahead of Perez today the red flag would of ruined his lap so this crash is irrelevant.

 

[McLaren]

Thinking about it more, the 2 crashed cars in front of him were also classified in front of him. Same thing happened last year with Leclerc. Some were arguing back then that if you cause a red flag, you should be taken out of the qualy classification (i.e. become last for that session). He may be thinking along those lines.

I suppose. But, his line afterward, "Otherwise, it's better to do your lap & put it into the wall" was kind of weird. It's not like Checo or Alonso purposely crashed; Checo was definitely looking to continue his fight for that pole again.

Wonder if maybe Max was just caught in his emotions a bit.

 

[PaMu1337]

I suppose. But, his line afterward, "Otherwise, it's better to do your lap & put it into the wall" was kind of weird. It's not like Checo or Alonso purposely crashed; Checo was definitely looking to continue his fight for that pole again.

Wonder if maybe Max was just caught in his emotions a bit.

Of course they didn't do it on purpose, and Max knows that, he probably just thinks it's a bit weird that you could in theory do that, and annoyed that he was caught up on the bad side of it two years in a row (though he probably wouldn't have gotten pole either way in both cases)

And Max is always caught up in his emotions