Formula 1 Lenovo Grande Prêmio De São Paulo 2024Formula 1

[Rossell2]

We do need some permanent stewards now don't we? I think someone's going to die in a really stupid and avoidable way eventually.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

I believe they did introduce a rule that you can't go alongside during the safety car period after around the mess in 2021.

FIA outlaws F1 safety car restart move used by Verstappen - The Race

The FIA has told Formula 1 drivers getting alongside another car ahead of a safety car restart will no longer be permitted

www.the-race.com

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Which seemed to conveniently wait for McLaren to swap despite the fact Hulkenberg was out of the car..

I mean, race control have a habit of making late SC/VSC calls. I wouldn’t jump so hard on the conspiracies just yet.

 

[MagpieRacer]

I mean, race control have a habit of making late SC/VSC calls. I wouldn’t jump so hard on the conspiracies just yet.

No conspiracy here, just puzzled why they waited so long.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

No conspiracy here, just puzzled why they waited so long.

Sorry, I might have misunderstood you then, that’s just what I thought you were implying with your post. Don’t get me wrong, I think the call should have been made earlier but that’s just classic race control.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

I believe they did introduce a rule that you can't go alongside during the safety car period after around the mess in 2021.

FIA outlaws F1 safety car restart move used by Verstappen - The Race

The FIA has told Formula 1 drivers getting alongside another car ahead of a safety car restart will no longer be permitted

www.the-race.com

Well it wasn't that. The document notes the following:

Alleged breach of Article 56.5 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations – Failing
to stay above the minimum time set by the FIA ECU during the VSC ending at 11:31.

 

[McLaren]

Reading Max has gotten a 5-second penalty for the VSC infringement.

 

[toastet]

Well it wasn't that. The document notes the following:

Alleged breach of Article 56.5 of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations – Failing
to stay above the minimum time set by the FIA ECU during the VSC ending at 11:31.

But actually:

 

[Fezzik]

Max Verstappen demoted to P4 in Interlagos Sprint after VSC infringement | Formula 1®

Red Bull driver Max Verstappen has been hit with a five-second time penalty following the Sao Paulo Grand Prix Sprint race, dropping him to fourth in the classification behind Ferrari’s Charles Leclerc.

www.formula1.com

 

[Saidur_Ali]

I don't get why FIA dilly-dally so much in putting out a VSC, they always seem to take an age to react to what is happening on circuit.

Anyway, Red Bull looked the fastest especially with Checo getting fastest lap at the end and how easy it is was them to overtake cars and stay close. Does not look good for the championship for Lando as all the remaining races are strong circuits for Red Bull, they seemed to have found a setup direction that works with the car so Max might not feel the need to do his kamikaze moves if they are the fastest again. Hopefully others can take a step forward for the race and try and stop Max coming through too easily. Max with the penalty is getting closer to a race ban but still need a lot of penalties for that to happen. Red Bull with the performance they showed might be back in the constructor's fight.

Good to see Alpine beat a Red Bull and well clear of Aston Martin, what a turnaround.

Ah fair enough. Shame that little tidbit isn't going to happen but another amazing opportunity for Bearman he seems to be taking with both hands

Let's see if he can get a decent lap together in the proper qualifying with the experience gained, Haas seem to be fourth fastest team in qualifying pace.

 

[PaMu1337]

Qualy delayed due to heavy rain. At least one hour.

The track is absolutely flooded. I wouldn't be surprised if there won't be qualy today at all.

 

[Sum1s2pid]

A bit damp out there. 😶

 

[Famine]

 

[PaMu1337]

Rain has eased off, and the track is looking a bit better. It might be possible to start in 15 minutes.

Edit: currently looking at 16:15 local time (in 25 minutes)

 

[AshenGraey]

So wouldn't those conditions be where you would just drive with WET tires???? Why can't they just use them???? This is a bit ridiculous. I understand the safety aspect but if the tire is there to drive in those conditions then why the heck aren't they using them?

 

[Veinz]

The sweeper truck is doing absolutely nothing with that amount of water, lol.

 

[Jezza819]

So wouldn't those conditions be where you would just drive with WET tires???? Why can't they just use them???? This is a bit ridiculous. I understand the safety aspect but if the tire is there to drive in those conditions then why the heck aren't they using them?

This might be due to rivers of water running across the track. I don't know that to be true but with the sort of bowl design Interlagos is I would think that could be a big problem in heavy rain.

 

[Veinz]

There's a lot standing water in the pits alone, the lowest parts of the track must have at least few inches of water.

 

[PaMu1337]

In case there's no qualifying possible at all, FP1 would set the grid. That would give Lando pole and Max P20.
Also Bearman P3 😄

But that's assuming we can't get qualifying done today or tomorrow morning.

 

[ZoomingZoomer]

Fred Vasseur’s reaction to the F1 graphic of trivia about him was simply priceless

 

[Fezzik]

Try again tomorrow morning.

Not sure when or if Lewis will get to drive Senna’s car now.

 

[PaMu1337]

There's rain predicted for all day tomorrow. Gonna be difficult to get qualy in at all. Not even sure if there will be a race. If there will be, it will likely start behind the safety car.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Qualifying officially off.

 

[TumeK5]

So...if the Grand Prix qualifying could never be held for a Sprint weekend, how is the grid determined for the Grand Prix? SQ?

 

[RACECAR]

So...if the Grand Prix qualifying could never be held for a Sprint weekend, how is the grid determined for the Grand Prix? SQ?

In what has to be the most confounding decision imaginable, they'll use results from FP1....

 

[Rossell2]

I'm guessing a left over from normal race weekends where I think is it FP3? would be used to determine it. Part of me thinks that needs looking at.

 

[RACECAR]

I'm guessing a left over from normal race weekends where I think is it FP3? would be used to determine it. Part of me thinks that needs looking at.

A continually recurring theme with F1 as of late.

 

[PaMu1337]

I'm guessing a left over from normal race weekends where I think is it FP3? would be used to determine it. Part of me thinks that needs looking at.

It is because the sprint sessions are now considered completely separate from the main race. They shouldn't influence the race at all. So it falls back to free practice, of which there is only 1 session.

 

[Jimlaad43]

This would of course leave the grid with:
Norris on pole
Russell second
Bearman third
Albon fifth
Hamilton fifteenth
Perez eighteentand Verstappen 20th after his 5-place grid penalty.

Spicy grid

 

[Grayfox]

I don't get why FIA dilly-dally so much in putting out a VSC, they always seem to take an age to react to what is happening on circuit.

They're quick to ban something on the grounds of "SAFETY", yet when SAFETY is needed on the track.
You just hear crickets chirp.