Gran Turismo 7 Update Coming April 7

[JohnnyMac]

Very happy PD improved the economics. Can’t wait to play it when I come back from a holiday.

Can’t get over the fact there is so much anger on this forum on gt7. I would almost make a thread: Are you so dissappointed in Gt Planet’s forums that you’ll say goodbye?

Seriously, get over yourself….

(Sorry if this offends, but I can’t stand the blown out of proportion critiques and argumentation here…)

If I could 'like" this 500 times, I would.

 

[kjb]

So it is hard for you guys too. I thought I just really suck.

Well, I'm still suck but good to know I'm not the only one struggling.

I too am on the racing struggle all star team. I don't even try to get gold. Bronze is good enough for me Go for the bronze!

 

[CodeRedR51]

Well if he had good relationships with PD, he should def show them what we think of the game because i honestly think they simply dont give a . I dont feel like they respect GT anymore nd its more than just a cash grab. Who the had the beautiful idea to make GT need to be online? I mean lets be honest nd logical… Who the thought it waa a good idea to reduce the prizes? Who the ** had the idea to remove some good tracks from old GT to give us even less tracks than what we had before? GT4 have more tracks than GT7 btw.

Don't poke the hornets nest as they say. If they want to know how you feel, they can read it on here. Jordan doesn't need to be a middle man.

 

[wakawakawaka]

This game is not perfect, never will be, but it is without any doubt a fantastic tribute to cars and racing, i love it.
Content wise is absolutely huge, polished and they will definitely make it much better and bigger over the years.

Have you finished everything on gold and 1th place in game? Are you A+ driver in Sport? NO.
But still you need more content NOW, one more track to grind on, one car.. JUST SOMETHING!!

The amount of negativity on GTPlanet is just mindblowing. This update was HUGE and really fast, thanks to PD.

Agreed 101%

 

[mynameis66]

Very happy PD improved the economics. Can’t wait to play it when I come back from a holiday.

Can’t get over the fact there is so much anger on this forum on gt7. I would almost make a thread: Are you so dissappointed in Gt Planet’s forums that you’ll say goodbye?

Seriously, get over yourself….

(Sorry if this offends, but I can’t stand the blown out of proportion critiques and argumentation here…)

So how are people supposed to voice there disappointment in a AAA full price game?Just quietly tut to themselves?I don't think so.

 

[o000o]

10 000x ratings from cry babies and xbox fanboys, no I dont care about metacritic, nor Sony.

And what differentiates the cry babies and those actually giving legitimate complaint? Would people here are also 'cry babies'?

This game offers a lot of polished content and gameplaye for its value, at this moment for dozens of hours.
You know that some games offers 10h of gameplay, zero replayability, no multiplayer, for same price. So?

Chase the rabbit nonsense they had the gall to call it 'race', broken online function, etc. as gameplay. The polished content seems to show about how PD doesn't know what they're doing as game developer and instead focuses on irrelevant stuff, especially Music Rally outta nowhere.

Said game you mention there would be even worse, but don't use that to excuse GT7 instead use the good one as a drive to improve?

 

[masterrawad]

I am a rich man now.

 

[Majorlazer]

How are people still bitching about the economy when they've just given us the ability to get over 47mn from CE, nearly 10mn + 2 prize cars from the new endurance missions and they've added new races with a payout potential of over 1.5mn per hour.

 

[GTO_Cory21]

I’m not arguing that. The game’s content is lacking. I’ve said that from release. Maybe when the main issues with the game have been fixed they can focus on adding content instead of fixing bugs.

Right now there’s still features missing in online lobbies that haven’t been addressed. The mode is really really lacking right now. I’d argue it’s more lacking than the single player content. I’d still take the single player content first, but, and I’m repeating myself, I can understand they prioritise other things.

Yes they multiplayer is basically a beta version they need to get that together asap

 

[Hellburner]

Not very overwhelmed with this update... It seems that the Trial Mountain cup is still the easiest and fastest way to grind... The new Tokyo event is stupidly hard with the new penalties. Don't really now why there is a difficulty setting when easy is still hard for some (most?). There has to be some form of challenge but when someone decides to play on easy all events should have the same difficulty setting. Now there is content (some missions, certain races,..) that just isn't doable for the majority (opinion based on trophy stats) of the playerbase.

 

[JUNTUHE]

Any updates to the unrealistic snappy steering? I think thats the main issue in handling and the feelin of speed outside camera view?

 

[Scaff]

Sony, Nintendo, and MS have all have varying levels of MTX in their games. Be it DLC, or currency in their full priced titles though? But even then I don’t even see this is some hellscape.

I think most people clearly distinguish between MTXs and paid DLC.

I’ve played my share of live service, played EA, Ubisoft, rockstar etc and I can tell you this is not even close, and if EA was simply doing this vs what they are currently doing I don’t think anyone would have much problems with it.

Odd, because it's almost exactly the same mechanism used by Rockstar in GTAV, and given the backlash EA has had for MTX in titles I strongly disagree, particularly as they are currently getting slated for releasing an unfinished title that had less intrusive MTXs within it.

I think people feeling personally attacked by a top up message it’s more they are facing what reality has been for a lot of games, and will continue to be the case when a game is a live service etc.

Who said they felt attacked by it? I said that it was "in your face", which for a first-party AAA title they certainly are, so I'm not quite sure where the strawman came from.

So if you are with the stance of no MTX ever I don’t think we can really agree on things, vs where my stance is how it’s implemented esp with these changes which now make the MTX even less needed unless you really are hurting for credits and have incredible amounts of FOMO.

I distinguish quite happily between MTX and DLC, as with DLC you know exactly what you are getting. The ideal model for me is paid DLC for cars with tracks being released free (as to not split the user base), one that I am happy to support.

Almost every racing game in the market has some model of MTX, so I just don’t get the shock behind it, it will be something for Forza Motorsport as well etc.

And Forza removed MTX from Forza, at the same time they removed loot boxes. DLC remains and is transparent and clear as to what you are getting.

so it’s one thing if you disagree with how PD did their MTX and wanted a diff model like seasons, car packs etc its a whole diff thing if you are in the no MTX camp and honestly we’ve been way past that convo for almost 5 years across the gaming industry.

Which DLC or MTXs, as the latter is on its way out from most paid titles, with a good amount fo the gaming press and public not supporting them.

 

[Hellburner]

How are people still bitching about the economy when they've just given us the ability to get over 47mn from CE, nearly 10mn + 2 prize cars from the new endurance missions and they've added new races with a payout potential of JFC hover 1.5mn per hour.

Hmm, don't know because for that 47.000.000 credits you need to get gold on all the circuit experiences? If you look at the trophy stats you will see that only a small percentage has done all tracks, and even fewer will have won gold on all.

 

[keiweux]

Hmm, don't know because for that 47.000.000 credits you need to get gold on all the circuit experiences? If look at the trophy stats you will see that only a small percentage has done all tracks, and even fewer will have won gold on all.

Maybe if they spend less time grinding one easy fast race, they will actually have some knowledge about other circuits, and just maybe everyone else will have better experience in multiplayer with them. But that is all just maybe!

 

[st3vao]

I'm having an annoying issue, only in gt7, no matter if it is in online or offline races, the game freezes for like half a second then return to normal, in daily races when it happens I lose like 3 to 4 seconds of race time, and it happen when I overtake or get passed by another car at the first minutes of the daily races, every race. I have even upgraded the PS4 to an SSD, the upgrade mitigated the issue, but it still happens at random times

 

[platocplx]

I think most people clearly distinguish between MTXs and paid DLC.

Odd, because it's almost exactly the same mechanism used by Rockstar in GTAV, and given the backlash EA has had for MTX in titles I strongly disagree, particularly as they are currently getting slated for releasing an unfinished title that had less intrusive MTXs within it.

Who said they felt attacked by it? I said that it was "in your face", which for a first-party AAA title they certainly are, so I'm not quite sure where the strawman came from.

I distinguish quite happily between MTX and DLC, as with DLC you know exactly what you are getting. The ideal model for me is paid DLC for cars with tracks being released free (as to not split the user base), one that I am happy to support.

And Forza removed MTX from Forza, at the same time they removed loot boxes. DLC remains and is transparent and clear as to what you are getting.

Which DLC or MTXs, as the latter is on its way out from most paid titles, with a good amount fo the gaming press and public not supporting them.

I don’t even think it’s in your face like again I feel like it’s an exaggeration, on top of that you can’t tell me the MTX here is the same as GTAV and shark cards.

Also people also do have problems with DLC and claiming games are also “unfinished”

Reality is all these games have different models to extend the life of the game. And now I see what your issue is with it. You would rather PD do seasons and DLC and have that as paid vs giving free content and having MTX currency. Is that the basis of your whole issue around it? And me personally rather free content updates with the MTX because there is zero incentive for me to ever spend more than what I paid for the game.

So end of the day I don’t think we will agree on what’s best there. But I don’t really care for the characterization of it being close to what rockstar or EA are doing.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Hmm, don't know because for that 47.000.000 credits you need to get gold on all the circuit experiences? If you look at the trophy stats you will see that only a small percentage has done all tracks, and even fewer will have won gold on all.

They're not terribly difficult to gold.

 

[Scaff]

I don’t even think it’s in your face like again I feel like it’s an exaggeration, on top of that you can’t tell me the MTX here is the same as GTAV and shark cards.

Both allow you to buy virtual currency with real money to purchase in game items that shortcut an earning grind.

They are remarkably similar.

Also people also do have problems with DLC and claiming games are also “unfinished”

I've not said they don't, I've been quite consistent that games, AAA first party titles in particular, should be released in a complete state. One that offers easily identifable value for the cover price, GT7 doesn't do that in a number of areas.

Reality is all these games have different models to extend the life of the game. And now I see what your issue is with it. You would rather PD do seasons and DLC and have that as paid vs giving free content and having MTX currency. Is that the basis of your whole issue around it? And me personally rather free content updates with the MTX because there is zero incentive for me to ever spend more than what I paid for the game.

So end of the day I don’t think we will agree on what’s best there.

My issue isn't just with MTX, it's the manner in which they were implemented and the economy built around them. Nor are MTX my sole issue with GT7.

That's within PD scope to change, today's update was a step in the right direction, but not without its own issues.

But I don’t really care for the characterization of it being close to what rockstar or EA are doing.

I'm not asking for you to, but then again my complaint is with PD, not yourself.

 

[nightmare1993]

Don't poke the hornets nest as they say. If they want to know how you feel, they can read it on here. Jordan doesn't need to be a middle

Don't poke the hornets nest as they say. If they want to know how you feel, they can read it on here. Jordan doesn't need to be a middle man.

Its not about being a middle man or not? Hes the closest to them than any of us? Use your head a little?

 

[Touring Mars]

I really hope PD listen to some of the criticism about the online-only aspect of GT7.

It would be so simple to make the Arcade Mode / Offline playability of the game MASSIVELY better - indeed, just about any improvement would be massive considering how absolutely dire the game currently is offline.

It is not just about when the servers go down, or when they (so regularly) update the game, sometimes requiring an hour or more downtime to download, copy and install massive update files (like right now, for instance... can you tell? ) - but those are the major culprits.

My biggest problem is why they just don't make the game more accessible, period - I've said this before but I'll say it again... everything required to make GT7 a truly wonderful game is already there - but alas there is also what appears to be deliberate/considered impediments that are holding it back. Why?

As a boy of the early 80's, just 7 years older than Kazunori-san himself, I grew up on arcade machines and retro 'jump in and play' racing games on the C64 and Atari St - Pole Position, Out Run, Super Hang-on, Sega Rally, and then the classic PS1 generation of WipeOut, Formula One and Gran Turismo.

What happened to that spirit??

GT7 is great, but it could be a brilliant, brilliant game. But that's for another thread (OK, several...). One of my main disappointments is why the game is so poor offline, and why. It seems like some people at Polyphony Digital and Sony need to get back to their roots a bit, and while they are certainly delivering on the 'nostalgia' front in terms of content (classic tracks, cars and game features are all very welcome returns to the series), there's one major element missing for me - the old pick-up-and-play accessibility of the game that could (and should) be available on demand... and that means better - much better offline playability IMHO.

And perhaps the biggest but most simple question of all, however, is simply this... why not!?

 

[nightmare1993]

I can’t believe ppl got so brainwashed that they are good with having updates on some basic things that the game should of had since the beginning… And im the bad guy for saying it outloud lmao😭😂

 

[mynameis66]

They're not terribly difficult to gold.

Depends how good a driver you are.I personally struggled to gold some of them but hey ho I know I'm crap.

 

[platocplx]

Both allow you to buy virtual currency with real money to purchase in game items that shortcut an earning grind.

That’s kind of a very broad thing term even if correct in that sense even then peoples engagement with various live service games with a currency element it’s clear that the two aren’t the same in how the grind is as it stands right now.

Because like it was clear the endgame economy was out of wack and this clearly is way more balanced on top of the additional content the will be adding later on.

So just totally disagree that they are remotely similar other than you can buy currency if you so choose. When really this stuff is a lot more grey.

Again I think yours and some others expectations and the reality of what their version of a live service are clearly at odds. And right now for most people this is probally the easiest to navigate around as long as you arent subject to FOMO. Which is induced this way, or if there is a DLC model, a season pass etc.

I respect your stance but I’ve accepted for a while what live service comes with and the pluses and minuses with all the models.

 

[klondike]

My biggest gripe is how unwillingly they are to add a better payout for online and custom races.

How hard can it be for them to figure out that racing online or in a custom event should not pay like 10 - 20 times less than racing in a career event with a car I cant choose on a track I cant choose.

For christ sake just add the ability to earn a meaningfull amount of credits in online and custom races, that are on par with with the other races that are in the mission, or career mode.

 

[Randy Winston]

While I'm happy for this update, let's be honest, it's still a woefully barebones single player experience overall.

Depends on what your expectations of the game were. I wanted a game where I could own, customize, tune and race all the old and new Japanese cars that I can't afford in real life, and I have 90 percent of that. I don't understand what single player experience you're looking for.

 

[Nielsen]

The lack of discernment here is amazing. The negativity is like a snow ball of good and then absolutely random arguments. If nothing came out today people would be like "where's the patch, it's already 7th", now they did it and upgraded the prizes and some are still complaining about stuff that wasn't even mentioned prior to the patch, like the events. They weren't supposed to come in the early april patch. Some people need to quit GT.

It’s not negativity. It’s valid criticism, and it wouldn’t magically disappear just because PD released a mixed bag of a hyped up patch.

 

[Bojador]

Delete

 

[jmad5541]

but if you were designing a game from the outset to regularly have content added to it presumably you’d make it so it was easy to add that content no?

are you a game developer? if not then you have no idea how they go about designing and developing these things so how can you say that something should be easy to implement.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Its not about being a middle man or not? Hes the closest to them than any of us? Use your head a little?

Likewise.

 

[VinylRichie]

So how are people supposed to voice there disappointment in a AAA full price game?Just quietly tut to themselves?I don't think so.

It’s not about critique itself, because there definitely is much to, it’s about in which direction it went very quickly and how overblown much of this is. This makes it almost impossible to discuss the problems of the game in a reasonable way.
But actually it’s not surprising, this happens often when there’s a game/ movie/ whatever with this heritage and fanbase.