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FixedThat's what Kaz says on Twitter. You didn't need to read the thread to find that out. On this thread, we're discussing, debating, speculating, flaming and craping.
FixedThat's what Kaz says on Twitter. You didn't need to read the thread to find that out. On this thread, we're discussing, debating, speculating, flaming and craping.
You know what's sad in all these rewind jokes. In the old days, players would practice a track lap after lap to get it right. Corner after Corner looking for the right driving line and topping your last lap time. The good old days.
Now we have people requesting hand holding trapeziums. If this was a Need for speed or Grid then i would understand. But these are people who are supposedly GT fans. I simply cannot believe somone who plays and lives GT would request such a feature. Simply cannot.
Just step away from GT a little bit and venture out to another game called Dark souls. Oh i would love someone to tell a DS fan about introducing rewind in to that game. And that's crux of the issue.
Gran Turismo makes you a better player. It doesn't hold your hand. You jack up a corner you try it again. I remember the formula GT A Spec races. The sheer tension of the last lap knowing full well that a slip would cost me places which is so hard to get back. That's what seperates GT from other games. The sense of achievement. It's something built over a decade spanning 5 installments of the series. It's what makes it unique.
And yet certain people want it to be another clone. Another run of the mill game. Another easy game. All i can say Thank goodness Kaz didnt add it. I never doubted him but it's easy to fall into the mindset of pleasing everyone and yet this mentality often accomplishes nothing in the end. And it also makes GT lose it's greatest assest. It's greatest feature which surpasses all other games. It's called individualism. It has craved a spot in racing games for itself. Uniqueness is often to attain in a crowded market like the gaming industry. Kaz knows this and copying a feature which dilutes the series would turn it into another arcadey game which they are literally swarming around in the market.
Thank You Kaz. Stay true to your ideas and your philosophies. It's what makes me buy this series over and over again. The moment this is lost would be the day i part away from it
See? That's smart, that's a proper GT fan. That's how it is. I wish everyone was like you, vandaliser but some people are out and out fools.
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Rewind is better than doing laps when you're trying to focus on a specific section of track. It's not about being easy, or wanting hand holding. It's about wanting to be a better driver.
If you want to learn a track, you do laps of it. The whole track, just like in real-life.
Above statement (about "cannot believe") is an expression of 'purism' or 'elitism' towards the game that I don't fancy, and saying "that if someone could DARE to request such a feature is UNBELIEVABLE", is just another way of saying "I don't want it, and so is everybody wanting it wrongdoers and not a true GT'er"...
It is a GAME, for crying out loud....!!
And not all play it as a "sim" but as recreational activity...
Personally, I won't be using the "rewind"-feature, if it should be implemented, just as I haven't liked/used it in the 'arcade'-games I have played having the feature. But that should not keep others from having the opportunity to play the game the way they want to..
Not everybody want to redo another 20 lap in rain at Suzuka in FormulaGT (or maybe the whole championship), because of a to heavy foot on the last lap...
But I do agree with Vandaliser about that Kaz should hold on to make the game HE want it to be.. And if he see a benefit to include "rewind" due to feedback from customers (which include others than us at GTP..!!), so be it.. I won't complain, as long as I have the opportunity to just not use it..
If somehow it should be forced upon me.. Then I would raise my voice, to speak against it..
To stay on topic, I don't think that a 'rewind'-feature will be part of Spec 2.0-update.. at all..
Damn vandaliser. Well spoken.
I still disagree with you on the livery though
Rewind is better than doing laps when you're trying to focus on a specific section of track. It's not about being easy, or wanting hand holding. It's about wanting to be a better driver.
If you want to learn a track, you do laps of it. The whole track, just like in real-life.
If you want to learn a track, you do laps of it. The whole track, just like in real-life.
So all this rewind junk just started because we are getting rewind in replay? Because I never seen it before we found out about spec II.
Whats next, do people want to start Fast Forwarding during gameplay? Watch, someone will create a thread about that. Kaz leave RW to replay.
On topic. I want to see Infineon in the track pack.
This!
I think the rewind talk (wich seems like, I´ve started it ), is about the feature to rewind in an race, when you get off the track, hit a wall or something else... It´s not about the rewind (and I hope forward too) feature in replays, wich is a need in GT5!
Rewind is better than doing laps when you're trying to focus on a specific section of track. It's not about being easy, or wanting hand holding. It's about wanting to be a better driver.
If you want to learn a track, you do laps of it. The whole track, just like in real-life.
Sometimes we just have to take things literally in most cases when it comes to GT5 news. I remember when the GT site mentioned something like "no interior views for standard cars," everyone tried to believe it meant no bonnet/engine view, undersides, etc. Then we also had another one when Kaz mention 20 tracks/60 variations or something like that, and many believed it was false.
It just shows that a single word or phrase can have so many different meanings. e.g. something as obvious as REPLAY rewind/fast-forward can be mistaken for rewind-feature during gameplay..
You can do that already, you just have to pull the handbrake, drive the track the wrong way for a bit, then spin the car back round and try that section again.
Straight from the news feed.
- Replay forward/rewind.
Anybody who logs on to GTP and wants to argue that GT5 is not a very realistic driving simulation needs to be banned.
👍 I really don't know why they talk about gameplay when rewind function is just for replay
You call it elitism, i call it not diluting the core gameplay. A game built on challenging gameplay and sim elements should not be diluted by the addtion of arcadey features. It's not a question of 'oh i won't use but let others use it' It's a question of retaining the uniqueness of the series. Gran Turismo was built for GT fans. Not shift/need for speed or Grid fans.
Be playing NFS 27, or some dry, dusty PC sim with very few race cars in it.What would racing game fans do without the brilliant piece of work that is PD?
I'm hopeful this won't be the case. When Prologue was updated to Spec II, we got a new track which integrated in the single player offline game beautifully. I'm crossing my fingers that the A-Spec races are updated in the same way, and we get a bunch more. If not in Spec II, then in Spec III.Can't wait for this update, however I do wonder whether or not all of the new tracks and cars etc will be solely for DLC.
I'm hopeful this won't be the case. When Prologue was updated to Spec II, we got a new track which integrated in the single player offline game beautifully. I'm crossing my fingers that the A-Spec races are updated in the same way, and we get a bunch more. If not in Spec II, then in Spec III.