- 36,698
- Scotland
- GTP_daan
Hell no. The Manta was rear wheel drive. This is front.
I voted uncool. 140bhp from a 3.2 V6? That's abominable.
GTP Cool Wall: 1988.5-1994 Pontiac Sunbird
- Thread starter White & Nerdy
- 171 comments
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I voted uncool. 140bhp from a 3.2 V6? That's abominable.
- 3,155
- 49°16'43.22"N 81°37'50.21W
- mikeybc
Same platform, can't remember for sure but I thought they shared pretty much everything such as strut/spring assemblies and brake components, I worked on a lot if them in the past. Think the turboed 4 was only available in the pontiac though.
Anyway it's a Meh. I drove the Z-24 (Cavalier) and other versions with 5 speed and the 3.1 and I remember they felt pretty snappy for the time. Not a high revving engine though. Shifter felt horrible too as do most GM manual shifters.
Many of the automatics had lockup torque converter solenoid issues...torque converter stayed locked and would stall the engine when slowing down.
Anyway it's a Meh. I drove the Z-24 (Cavalier) and other versions with 5 speed and the 3.1 and I remember they felt pretty snappy for the time. Not a high revving engine though. Shifter felt horrible too as do most GM manual shifters.
Many of the automatics had lockup torque converter solenoid issues...torque converter stayed locked and would stall the engine when slowing down.
- 3,455
- Brisbane
- Uriehusky
- Uriehusky
Now I'm going to take W&N out of this equation entirely for this, he's calmed down about his car lately rather than shoving it in our faces trying to change our minds about it and I can respect him for that.
Unfortunately however, that still doesn't save this car from a seriously uncool.
Sure, it comes with a V6, sure you can get it in manual, sure it may be fun to drive at times - but let's be honest, anything can be fun to drive in the right environment so that's hardly any praise.
But it's just so utterly bland! I mean, seriously uncool to look at and utterly unimpressive - much like a civic or a corolla it's a car that may or may not work and will either get you from point a to point b or leave you stranded on the side of the road, but there's no sense of theatre or drama about it - it's just an often unreliable and rusty car..
Unfortunately however, that still doesn't save this car from a seriously uncool.
Sure, it comes with a V6, sure you can get it in manual, sure it may be fun to drive at times - but let's be honest, anything can be fun to drive in the right environment so that's hardly any praise.
But it's just so utterly bland! I mean, seriously uncool to look at and utterly unimpressive - much like a civic or a corolla it's a car that may or may not work and will either get you from point a to point b or leave you stranded on the side of the road, but there's no sense of theatre or drama about it - it's just an often unreliable and rusty car..
- 34,949
- Indian Falls, NY
- slashfan7964
I can't say the convertible is too god-awful...
I will gladly take that with at least a 305 or 350 stuffed under the hood backed by a T5 (manual), RWD and an incredibly stiffened chassis. That would be quite interesting.
Anyone?
Though, the original Sunbird I quite like:
I will gladly take that with at least a 305 or 350 stuffed under the hood backed by a T5 (manual), RWD and an incredibly stiffened chassis. That would be quite interesting.
Anyone?
Though, the original Sunbird I quite like:
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- 4,040
- UK
- ReTyger
Had to go for a meh, almost nudged a cool. I quite like the styling but then I kinda like slightly gaudy 80s cars (this missed the boat a little though, looks mid-80s at best, not late) and it would stand out here cause it has that murkan look. Reminds me a little of a Fiero or Fox Mustang, and 160-odd horses isn't too bad for its time, though I think it would be more fun if it was RWD.
- 2,364
- Albuquerque, NM
- BloodDiamondPant
- 3,155
- 49°16'43.22"N 81°37'50.21W
- mikeybc
Cano
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- 20,758
- Cephiro
The car in the OP pic looks exactly like the Cavalier we got here. Wheels and all. We never got Pontiac here, but the Cav was just.like.that.one.
Resisting the temptation to vote sub zero because shenanigans, this hardly earns a meh. Altough I have to say I always liked the Z24 version of this thing. My dad was this close to getting one. Yes I know this isn't a Cavalier, but for us south-of-the-borderians, it was.
Resisting the temptation to vote sub zero because shenanigans, this hardly earns a meh. Altough I have to say I always liked the Z24 version of this thing. My dad was this close to getting one. Yes I know this isn't a Cavalier, but for us south-of-the-borderians, it was.
- 27,219
- United Kingdom
Not even ironically cool.
- 5,303
- Riverside, Ca
- GTP_Leonidae_MFT
It's related to Chav-alier? Instant Seriously Uncool.
- 2,227
- Portland, Oregon
Uncool. I'm not giving this car a low rating because of W&N, but because they just aren't very good. They look bland, probably don't drive very well, and I just can't stand FWD cars with V6 engines (usually). I could be wrong, since I've never been in one, but I doubt it, it's related to the Cavalier.
- 4,741
- Bogota,Colombia
- GTP_ARP93
- 3,202
- Murcie LP710
I like the styling in a late-80s sort of way (considerably better looking than my 1988 box) but I can't take it seriously at all.
Uncool.
Uncool.
- 34,949
- Indian Falls, NY
- slashfan7964
GM isn't Mazda though.
- 1,068
- Michigan
- OriginalCheezIt
*sees thread title*
SERIOUSLY UNCOOL
*looks at picture*
Ay, that's not half bad looking... I'll give it a meh.
Make it rear wheel drive and you might just get a 'cool' out of it.
SERIOUSLY UNCOOL
*looks at picture*
Ay, that's not half bad looking... I'll give it a meh.
Make it rear wheel drive and you might just get a 'cool' out of it.
- 6,041
- Puget Sound
- Crash852
This really is another one of those cars with no purpose other than to transport a person from point A to point B, which earns a meh. However, the fact that it's such a big pile of turd, even by those standards, makes this seriously uncool.
- 87,627
- Rule 12
- GTP_Famine
They also got 140hp from a 1.8 i4 and a 1.8 V6 (in less bland cars) and 155hp from a 2.0 V6 (in a middlingly bland car).
No, but by then Mazda were Ford.
- 4,209
- Wasilla, AK
LOL, specific output
- 4,209
- Wasilla, AK
Though that theoretically could be turned into a strength with proper driving technique, as long as you don't mind abusing the rear tires pretty badly.
And really, specific output being a factor in coolness. Not happening barring extreme circumstances.
And really, specific output being a factor in coolness. Not happening barring extreme circumstances.
- 4,209
- Wasilla, AK
- 2,821
- Québec
- GTP_WorstDriver
Seriously uncool. The epitome of GM crapness. Find me a cool J-Body car, that same body that the Cimarron was based on. Damn near impossible.
