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You can't do testing with tyre wear off because each car will behave differently when you turn it on. And you definitely can't test cars with stock suspension, as from season 2 testing the Lexus can be at least a second slower with the stock tune and I'm not even a good tuner. Not that I'm going to test mind, because I don't agree with the 300 bhp value thing going on.

I beg some more people join gt500, because I'm most probably not switching to gt300.

I dont understand how GT500 has now less interest than GT300. Last season was the other way around. At least, Im not in the same conference as you, so you dont get to kick my ass :dopey: :lol:
 
Right. I had the intention of turning it on after getting the best times for all the cars as a baseline to work on - then turn it on after and adjust it there.

About the Lexus - it can hang around the corners with the rest, just not on the straights. As for suspension setups in general, what do you guys suggest? Release mandatory tunes along with power specs?

p.s. i think the baseline car should be switched to the fastest one at 300hp, not the other way around.
 
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Right. I had the intention of turning it on after getting the best times for all the cars as a baseline to work on - then turn it on after and adjust it there.

About the Lexus - it can hang around the corners with the rest, just not on the straights. As for suspension setups in general, what do you guys suggest? Release mandatory tunes along with power specs?

p.s. i think the baseline car should be switched to the fastest one at 300hp, not the other way around.
The Lexus ran .6 slower for you at Tsukuba, and that's as tight as they come.

Tuning is very preference based, so I'd never suggest a "mandatory" setup, just that testers make sure they tweak the cars as needed to maximize their potential.

So here's what I can offer to help in that aspect -
Here's a basic rundown, on what I feel each piece changes.
Car specific statements are in regard to the Nissan GTR SuperGT cars, specifically, the Yellowhat GTR.

Ride Height
Higher gives more acceleration grip, lower gives less. Overall I turn the same lap times with either, but I find them harder to hit with a low setting, I believe lower is faster in a straight line, so may be very useful on high speed tracks.


Springs
Stiffer equals sharper response, more loss of grip over bumps, faster tire wear, overall faster lap times for me generally. Softer requires more precise steering inputs, but absorbs bumps better, losses traction less easily, and helps with tire wear. Generally slower lap times for me.

Shocks 1
A setting like this (lower number front then rear) reduces over-steer when accelerating, at any speed, helps control exiting corners, because the rear isn't sliding as quickly. The opposite (higher front then rear) helps an under-steering car rotate when exiting, something I've never needed with this car. - On acceleration only though. (keep in mind, this goes in tandem with accel lsd settings)

Shocks 2
Works under braking, same as above essentially, this car under-steers a bit under braking stock, so I put the front higher then the rear, the opposite is, well, opposite. (keep in mind, this goes in tandem with lsd decel and BB/ABS settings)

Swaybars
In tandem with springs and ride height somewhat. Stiffer equals faster cornering for me, worse tire wear and worse over bumps, softer a bit slower, better tire wear, just like springs, softer requires more precise steering input. Higher number on front induces over-steer, higher on rear under-steer.

Camber
A big tire wear factor in GT5, higher makes you go faster, but wears tires out quicker, I use this as a tool depending on balance of the car, but typically higher front then rear is best for me. Can be used for under/over-steer issues if needed, but since the rears like to wear out first on this car, I go low camber on the rear, using the rest of suspension to give me the balance I'm looking for. Higher camber also has more benefit with stickier tires, and lower, stiffer suspension settings. But again, at the cost of extra tire wear.

Toe
Negative front toe lessons steering response, positive increases it. Negative rear toe increases speed of rotation, meaning the car can become very snappy, and also lessens rear grip. Positive rear toe increases rear grip, and decreases "snappyness" meaning the car won't react quite so quickly, and you'll have more grip, especially exiting slower corners.
Toe, especially rear toe, has more effect on slow corners then fast, a good tool for sorting low/high speed corner differences. Positive toe also makes tires wear faster, so use it when you need it, but don't use more then you need.

LSD
Lower equals better cornering, allows the wheels to spin at different speeds as they naturally have to by demand of physics, meaning the outside tire must spin faster then the inside tire, because it covers more distance. Lower also prevents spinning the car out when you break a tire loose, because while the inside tire spins, the outside (grip tire) keeps cornering traction. A setting of 5/5/5 makes it very hard to spin out.
Initial torque is just how quickly the lsd will activate once slip occurs, whether decelerating or accelerating, a higher initial results in that God awful "see-saw" motion. I never run higher then 9, usually 8.

Brakes
Set lower makes it easier to brake in small amounts, without slowing down more then you want to, it's something I picked up from fast guys in racing online, also helps reduce tire wear.
Lower numbers do take a slight bit longer to stop, but I've never noticed while racing tbh. I set front a bit higher to intentionally wear the front tires a bit more, because driving on good fronts and bald rears is bad news. Also under-steer is easier to manage, especially in critical times of hard braking.

ABS 1 is the fastest of ABS settings, though a setting of 2 helped me until very recently as I've started working on my trail braking, but if you're allowed, 2-3 can work very good, and ease on your tire wear.
 
The Lexus ran .6 slower for you at Tsukuba, and that's as tight as they come.

Tuning is very preference based, so I'd never suggest a "mandatory" setup, just that testers make sure they tweak the cars as needed to maximize their potential.

So here's what I can offer to help in that aspect -

Right. On a longer track like Nurburgring GP-F i'd say that will translate to a second or more.

I'll have a link of your tuning guide in the OP. Any tunes during testing, please post it here so we can have a baseline that can work on.


Massive thanks to Jordan for the help! Much, much appreciated!

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A live list of the current sign-ups - Click Here!
 
haha wow, that is a lot of people! Great work Masi and a big thank you to Jordan, stewards ain't getting no sleep :sly: Going to be a long list of drivers.. but do you know the best thing? I'm at the top of that list :D
 
Hi All,
The sign up said I needed to post in the main thread to confirm my commitment to the series. Well, here's my post. I look forward to qualifying this Saturday.

I'm a tad confused about how to go about qualifying (set up an online race with a specific title?), and don't have enough time at work to find the answers right now. I'll read more after work.

Cheers,
gtp_ascetic
 
I asked to be changed to the GT500 races, but it still shows as GT300. Also, are there any more people signing up for GT500? I only counted 10 people.
 
Hello Guys, i just read about the details etc. and filled the registration form for the GT300 class (PAL) as i just read Quali started today but i need some steward too look at my lap, how can i do this can anyone give me some help?

Greetings.

Edit: also there stood i had to post in the main thread to make my registration complete
Here i am Mr. G.Keanie - PSN ID: LKWTrailer, i have no fear !
 
I know I am probably being a pain guys but would it be possible to take me off that list, as I am busy with school work up until June :(. Sorry.
Thanks.
 
Hello Guys, i just read about the details etc. and filled the registration form for the GT300 class (PAL) as i just read Quali started today but i need some steward too look at my lap, how can i do this can anyone give me some help?

Greetings.

Post in here to inquire about a session. State the best times of the day you are available and Stewards will arrange and help supervise your qualifier.

Please remember that you can only do the both qualifier once. You have a month until the deadline.
 
This is insane, so many people viewing this thread right now! Huge thank you to Jordan for sharing this on the blog. 👍 Man, this is going to be epic!!
 
Post in here to inquire about a session. State the best times of the day you are available and Stewards will arrange and help supervise your qualifier.

Please remember that you can only do the both qualifier once. You have a month until the deadline.

Thanks for youre quick response. :)
 
Based on the huge number of people that have already signed up, are we going to have multiple lobbies for each conference? There are more than 16 per conference.
 
Based on the huge number of people that have already signed up, are we going to have multiple lobbies for each conference? There are more than 16 per conference.

Only two lobbies per conference, NEP. Like it was in Season 1 and 2.

4 races per conference would be too much (at least this is my initial assumption - we haven't even reach the maximum pool of 120). Also, the points system only awards points for the top 16 - any other lobbies run would be useless in a sense - BUT! people can run as they please just for the fun.

So yeah, basically, you race you're way every race. Nothing comes easy. ;)
 
If i am qualified i am committed. I would like to race in gt500 but if needed ill race in gt300
 
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I don't know about the CT230R, RX7 LM, RX8 LM, and Lamborghini Nomad Diablo being classified as GT300. There's no way a poor little Toyota APEX MR-S will be able to put up with a 4WD, 600hp CT230R or a low, wide, mid-engined Lamborghini Diablo built by Reiter Engineering to compete in FIA GT1. Personally I think these cars should be moved up to GT500.
 
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