The most popular articles & videos on performance car publications like Evo are for the new generation of high-end SUV’s from brands like Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Range Rover etc.SUVs are some of the most pointless vehicles around and the last thing racing games need is to have them, especially when GT is missing all sorts of machines like up-to-date GT3s, prototypes, touring cars, road hypercars, EVs etc.
Linking SUVs to car enthusiasts seems really out of touch.
Oh yeah, this is definetly something that everybody would pick up instead of a proper sports car in a racing videogame.Hi. Car enthusiast here: recently resprayed Mk1 MX-5 in the garage resting, supercharged engine swapped project car sitting in the back garage currently still projecting.
Well that's the whole point. SUV's and Crossovers in their most common form are just people movers/heavy duty workers/ and in some veeeery rare occasions - Project cars for real extreme off-road action, which is not present in GT and never will be.I don’t regret it at all. The Exxie is such a great car. And with two small kiddos it’s safe. My Z was a 2+2 but I couldn’t possibly drive it with kids. The weather here in Norway is nasty these days. I help people who drive off the road, instead of joining the statistic.
The most popular articles & videos on performance car publications like Evo are for the new generation of high-end SUV’s from brands like Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Range Rover etc.
On Harry’s Garage, which is performance & classic car focused, the most popular video this year is for the new Ferrari SUV. In fact if I had a budget of £100k+ for a one car garage, I’d almost certainly choose an SUV of some sort.
With that in mind, Yamauchi also reflects on the changing face of motoring today. “The types of cars are changing a lot… In the past, car enthusiasts drove sports cars… Nowadays, car enthusiasts often drive SUVs… I think we have to cover such cars.”
Yamauchi also reflects on how players — “I don’t think it’s the majority,” he notes — respond to new features such as GT Sophy or new Vision Gran Turismo cars, with requests for their own favorite older vehicles.
You saw the "only", right? His point is that if you only put old cars in the game, it won't last as a series. Old cars as well is fine.Cough- so why give us a willys jeep and a fiat 595
What are you talking about? You said you couldn't think of a single car enthusiast who drives a crossover:Oh yeah, this is definetly something that everybody would pick up instead of a proper sports car in a racing videogame.
I mean don't get me wrong, I get it that you did upgrades and else but this is a very niche type of car to add in a racing game that does not catch up content-wise in modern age cars or old cars like predecessor games at all.
I am and I do. So now you know one.Can't really think of a single car enthusiast driving a crossover because it's such so much of a car.
Nope. I said it was my "daily" driver, work car. I'm a self-employed motoring and gaming writer; when I go to work I go from my bed, walk across the landing, and into my office, or I go drive a couple hundred miles (like I'm doing next week, for a driving event, with something with 600hp). I don't "go-into-town" or commute anywhere in it - it only gets 27mpg on a decent run, and using it for any shorter distances is suicidally expensive.Moreover, just as you mentioned, this is just a go-into-town car, while the real exciting car is being built in garage.
I believe, from the article and I think Famine explained, it’s past GT cars, not old cars in general.View attachment 1221335
Cough- so why give us a willys jeep and a fiat 595???? The 8c??? Quite a few useless vehicles already, so give us 2' in a class like the 2' trucks? Range rover and x5, my predictions, maybe the genesis g80? Since they have a heavy partnership now..
SO WE CAN SWAP THEM DUHHHHHHH!!!! GIVE us old cars with new motors. AND TRANSMISSIONS!
We want the "wtf" factor!!! Seeing a jeep hang with a Ferrari- is 10X cooler than watching some ai powered electric future vehicle that will never be roadlegal or purchasable... (Vgt)
THE future is "tesla swaps". We want our old bodies.
We will never rest our timeless classics that we grew to love!!
I don't know if you've been to a race track recently, or if it's the same where you are to where I am but the car parks at the race tracks around South Australia (i.e. the places where car enthusiasts go) are pretty much dominated by crossovers and SUV's of which many are the higher end sport versions. I am one of them... who also owns two sports/GT type vehicles, but I choose to take the 3.6R Outback to the track.Not sure if there's any mistranslation going on but this makes no sense, aside from the fact that the majority of crossovers & SUVs buyers are not car enthusiasts to begin with.
Half of my brain thinks that, but my sensible half thinks Kaz has his own visions, and isn't purely making the game as how we want it. Not 100% fan service that isView attachment 1221339
anyone else read this as, ‘i see what they want but i dont care’ ?
It's always possible. After all, it took us 23 years to get the Skyline Silhouette back, but we got it anyways.Espace F1 or uninstall.
The current 3 cars and 3 events a month pace is already glacial. I can't wait for 3 cars and 3 events 3 times a year.In addition he comments that GT7’s updates are not monthly by design, but that they just happen to be so at the moment. When asked if it’s a possibility that the updates could be more spaced out or closer together, he simply comments that it is.
Well, the CX-5 and CX-7 are as much of a common and boring cheap groccery getter as possible in my country.You saw the "only", right? His point is that if you only put old cars in the game, it won't last as a series. Old cars as well is fine.
What are you talking about? You said you couldn't think of a single car enthusiast who drives a crossover:
I am and I do. So now you know one.
Nope. I said it was my "daily" driver, work car. I'm a self-employed motoring and gaming writer; when I go to work I go from my bed, walk across the landing, and into my office, or I go drive a couple hundred miles (like I'm doing next week, for a driving event, with something with 600hp). I don't "go-into-town" or commute anywhere in it - it only gets 27mpg on a decent run, and using it for any shorter distances is suicidally expensive.
I picked a car that's fun to drive, fast, and carries stuff (and is a Mazda). It's also the most powerful European market Mazda ever made (until the hybrid CX-60 arrived in late-2022), and extremely rare; the CX-7 is no less an enthusiast's car than the Mazda 6 MPS upon which it's based. You'd have to be an enthusiast to own one, because otherwise you'd just be a moron - and in fact it's been in more Gran Turismo games than the Mazda 6 MPS, as the MX-Crossport from GT4-GT6.
Also I haven't done any upgrades, just maintenance, (there's a thread in Members Cars on it) so I'm not sure where that came from either.
And just to make the "car enthusiast" gatekeepers explode, the "real exciting car" is front-wheel drive.
Which means that I cannot think of a single car enthusist who would choose a Crossover family van over a proper sports car/exciting car. Yes, a car enthusiast would choose a car like this in the real life as a second/third car to comfortly move around town or if he can't afford himself anything exciting at all and has to take a reliable car for life purpouses.Can't really think of a single car enthusiast driving a crossover because it's such so much of a car.
Tell me that this "sporty" groccery-getter is much more fun to drive around than any of theese and you would pick it for track use any day...recently resprayed Mk1 MX-5 in the garage resting, supercharged engine swapped project car sitting in the back garage currently still projecting.
Sorry, don't really get it. What do you mean by that?And just to make the "car enthusiast" gatekeepers explode, the "real exciting car" is front-wheel drive.
Moreover, we are talking about a videogame over here, which main focus is racing cars around the track and is supposed to be fun and a little better than real life. Not off-roading or trying to put a family and grocceries in a car.
Then you haven't driven a good sporty FWD car, some FWD cars are incredibly fun to drive.Having driven quite a few cars of different classes, never been excited by an FWD car. (like hondas for example)
RWD or AWD like quattro is fun for me. Either slow and low-powered or extremely owerpowered, this is where fun and control is for me. FWD cars - never felt anything special behind the wheel
They're also completely unrelated cars, to the point of wondering why you'd bring one into a conversation about the other. The CX-5 is a Mazda-own Skyactiv platform, the CX-7 a much earlier vehicle based on the Ford Focus Mk2 when Mazda was majority owned by Ford.Well, the CX-5 and CX-7 are as much of a common and boring cheap groccery getter as possible in my country.
It's a five-seat car with a silly engine that goes very quickly. What makes you think it's not exciting?Which means that I cannot think of a single car enthusist who would choose a Crossover family van over a proper sports car/exciting car.
The CX-7 petrol is so ridiculously expensive to run and unreliable that every outlet that deals with used cars says you shouldn't buy it. Suggesting it's a car you only run because you can't afford anything exciting and have to take a reliable car is... really ignorant of reality.Yes, a car enthusiast would choose a car like this in the real life as a second/third car to comfortly move around town or if he can't afford himself anything exciting at all and has to take a reliable car for life purpouses.
No, you're talking about a video game. I was responding to your ludicrous gatekeeping comment that you couldn't think of a single car enthusiast who'd drive a crossover. I am, and I do. You can just admit that we actually exist any time you like rather than keeping on digging and dodging.Moreover, we are talking about a videogame over here, which main focus is racing cars around the track and is supposed to be fun and a little better than real life. Not off-roading or trying to put a family and grocceries in a car.
I bought the CX-7 because it was fun to drive - as well as meeting the other criteria I had. I don't drive boring cars. More fun than an MX-5? It certainly can be - the extra power is hilarious, and the extra traction (especially in winter; why do you think the MX-5 is resting in the garage?) is very useful. Not to mention long journeys; the Mk1 MX-5 was not made to do a 300-mile run on UK roads. And I would absolutely take my CX-7 on track, without any question at all.Tell me that this "sporty" groccery-getter is much more fun to drive around than any of theese and you would pick it for track use any day...
People who like to gatekeep what qualifies as fun/enthusiast/sports cars - like you're doing here with crossovers when you say you don't know any car enthusiasts who drive one despite it being presented to you - love to say front-wheel drive cars aren't fun and only rear-wheel drive (or certain AWD) cars are, and the concept that FWD can be fun enrages them.Sorry, don't really get it. What do you mean by that?