l URS l F1 2010 Championship l Qantas Australian Grand PrixF1 2010-2016

[Kakundoo]

Sorry Grafpt, going to have to drop out, thanks for the add though, and good luck with the Championship

 

[grafpt]

Any reason why?

L_Hamilton- You have been added, driving for HRT. What country flag shall I put next to your name?

{ OP UPDATED }

 

[Kakundoo]

Well, although this, I'm sure, will be very competitive and fun, I've decided to go with my own and try and get some of the people I used to race online with from Championship Edition.

 

[grafpt]

gotcha. Sorry to see you go.

 

[L_Hamilton]

The ol' red white n' blue for me, please.

👍

 

[grafpt]

So United States or UK? lol

 

[L_Hamilton]

crap...usa..

 

[grafpt]

******OP has been updated*****

Rules are now at bottom of OP and are also updated!

 

[Peter]

After running a test last night with Torc and crash, my conclusion is that the online play is broken when it comes to tires. Even when tire sim is off, you still get wear and feel your tires going out. We also ran one with is ON and why they chose to make tire wear = to how long the race is, is beyond me. So you run a 100% race option tires will prob last 17 laps or so? But you run a 3 lap race, tires LITERALLY wear during first lap.

That's clled scaled tyre wear. F1:CE had it too, depending on race distance, the tires will wear out in a set percentage of time of the race distance, of course the manner in which you manage your tires will matter there, but at an average pace, they'll go off in a set percentage of time.

 

[Peter]

Just looked at the OP, and well, the first come first serve thing is not how things were done. At the start of the season, the drivers pick the cars of their choice, and they use that car for the rest of the season. Also, I don't like the traction control only being allowed for pad users. And there is no way to enforce it. Wheel users will all end up using TC if they so wish anyway. I understand that with a pad, they only have all or nothing with throttle, but it may provide an unfair advantage over those wheel users, including me. Any solution?

 

[grafpt]

^^^double post, double post^^

Don't compete? One of my favorite quotes reads, "I don't know what the key to success is, But the key to failure is trying to please everyone." It just can't be done. Sorry.

YAY!!!!!! I think I MAY break the game.

Running a great!! race. in 6th with 6 laps to go on melbourne on 50% (29 laps), gaining on Messa.....................BAM!!!PSHHHHHHHH "It looks like you've picked up a puncture, nurse it in best you can" Im 🤬 🤬 so I go in the pits, JUST so happens EVERYONE ELSE IS!!!! (except the leaders of coarse) so I go into the pits in 7th.... I COME OUT IN LAST!!!!! 5 SECS BEHIND 23rd!!!!!!! WITH NOW 5 LAPS TO GO!!!!!!! Seriously this game is absolute garbage!

 

[drumc0de]

^^^double post, double post^^

Don't compete? One of my favorite quotes reads, "I don't know what the key to success is, But the key to failure is trying to please everyone." It just can't be done. Sorry.

YAY!!!!!! I think I MAY break the game.

Running a great!! race. in 6th with 6 laps to go on melbourne on 50% (29 laps), gaining on Messa.....................BAM!!!PSHHHHHHHH "It looks like you've picked up a puncture, nurse it in best you can" Im 🤬 🤬 so I go in the pits, JUST so happens EVERYONE ELSE IS!!!! (except the leaders of coarse) so I go into the pits in 7th.... I COME OUT IN LAST!!!!! 5 SECS BEHIND 23rd!!!!!!! WITH NOW 5 LAPS TO GO!!!!!!! Seriously this game is absolute garbage!

Yup, I hear you. It's been puncture central for me too...

 

[grafpt]

It's not even that, it's ALWAYS AT THE WORST TIME!! The computers reasoning in this game is SOO awful. Just like Dirt2. IT actually cheats. It's almost heartbreaking. Because the game is so awesome, but completely ruined. I am officially done with the career, I don't care how bad I want to do it. It's not worth getting 🤬 over

 

[Peter]

How will you be able to make sure only game pad users use traction control? Unless everyone's allowed to use TC?


Also, about my game situation, it's been ordered, and should be here next week latest. It may take some praying for it to come this week, but let's hope!!!

 

[grafpt]

Well I'm going to have to trust people. It will be obvious if someone sneaks it on.

 

[Peter]

Well I'm going to have to trust people. It will be obvious if someone sneaks it on.

I'm not too sure about that. Only possible way to notice is a faster cornering speed or exit out of low speed corners, which is near impossible to spot. And imagine how much of an edge pad drivers will have in wet conditions. They will be able to throw the cars around the corners with little problems, and we will have to tip-toe around, could be around 10 seconds slower.


Banning it outright plays a hefty disadvantage to the pad users, allowing it for pad users only plays into the pad users hands, especially in wet conditions. Looks like the only fair way is to allow traction control all around. I'm not supportive of the idea, but it seems to be the only fair way.

 

[grafpt]

Unfortunately it is I'm not particularly fond of it, but the drivers who do use pads are cool people and support my championship, so I'd hate to loose them. IMO wheel people have a huge advantage due to paddle shifters and, well, the wheel lol So it evens out for sure. But the trusting people part, we will have to see.

 

[Peter]

I'm not too sure about an advantage there. In F1:CE, the last championship, we all had to use pads, but times were almost exactly the same, if not faster.

 

[grafpt]

Hmmmm well o well i guess lol. Im just excited to start, because the AI career is just the biggest disappointment so this will be my "Living the life" ha

 

[Peter]

Meh, I hope I don't have all these troubles when my copy arrives. I think I may hold off on career and go online until Codemasters releases a patch. I'm never the one to have a crazy fit and kill myself over some bugs, unlike the Codemasters forum, but this all just sounds a bit like something to rage over. I have the urge ot make an account and start posting over there, to try and get people to stop being so crazy over this game, and understand that bugs are common in video games. It's almost as if there is no moderating staff.

 

[grafpt]

Ya their forums are out of hand to say the least. That's why I stopped back when I was playing Dirt 2. Ya man, trust me, don't bother. You WILL get completely raged. It's that bad.


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I WANT TO KNOW IF WE SHOULD INCREASE RACE LENGTH TO 50%!!!!!!!!

PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!

 

[DemonBlade]

I'd say 50% would be better grafpt. With the puncture situation as it is, a longer race distance should make managing tyres more predictable imo. I did a 100% race last night against AI and didnt have a single puncture!

 

[grafpt]

We will NOT be using Tire Simulation.

***OP UPDATED WITH LOTS OF NEW INFO!!***

 

[waynz]

I'm not too sure about that. Only possible way to notice is a faster cornering speed or exit out of low speed corners, which is near impossible to spot. And imagine how much of an edge pad drivers will have in wet conditions. They will be able to throw the cars around the corners with little problems, and we will have to tip-toe around, could be around 10 seconds slower.


Banning it outright plays a hefty disadvantage to the pad users, allowing it for pad users only plays into the pad users hands, especially in wet conditions. Looks like the only fair way is to allow traction control all around. I'm not supportive of the idea, but it seems to be the only fair way.

What a load of garbage... I run without any aids and my times are faster than when I did use TC.. Proven on the online leaderboards, you'll see I don't run with TC. By the sounds of your rant where running around Ice Arena or Chamonix. A good setup and right amount of throttle control is more than enough to get good times.

I don't care about the AIDS rule because I don't use them anyways... But if it is restricted it only pad users would be seriously unfair, it's like saying 'not everyone can run manual so it's automatic only... ... Seriously appose to the AIDS restrictions... personal choice, everything but braking assist IMO.

 

[grafpt]

Waynz- peter doesn't actually have the game yet lol so he's not running around anywhere. Did you NOT see akmuq on the last race? (no offense) He was all over the place.

The first GP WILL be ran with the rules currently stated. If problems acure due to them, it will be changed in time for round 2.



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[DemonBlade]

Grafpt, before i vote on the '2nd division' poll; please explain what would be the purpose of it. Is it for people with pads who need to have TC on? Is it for those who missed out on getting into the first 12 spots?

 

[Captain Roh]

Whats going on here!?

50% races? Where'd that come from?
TC in the race too? What?
Second race series? How has this popped up again?



This is silly. Everyone signed up knowing what to expect. Honestly we shouldnt even have the first race if the ground rules cant be standardized. Grafph, you just need to set out the rules of your race series and stick to them. There are people being turned away, while some who have signed up want to change the rules.

 

[Peter]

grafpt, my name isn't drumc0de. lol. What's going on? Did I get replaced or something?



Also, about the divisions thing, it's going to be a very hard thing to manage 2 divisions, and try to please 12 others as well. We tried dvisions before, remember? It all wasn't going to work properly, so we scrapped that thread, and decided that users go off and start their own leagues.

 

[daan]

Whats going on here!?

50% races? Where'd that come from?
TC in the race too? What?
Second race series? How has this popped up again?



This is silly. Everyone signed up knowing what to expect. Honestly we shouldnt even have the first race if the ground rules cant be standardized. Grafph, you just need to set out the rules of your race series and stick to them. There are people being turned away, while some who have signed up want to change the rules.

This is the best post in this thread.

This must be the most badly organised race series ever. Rules constantly being changed, people signing up and then finding out they're not in, people being given the car that someone else should already have, race lengths being changed (even after a poll), TC etc might possibly be used (or not) and maybe for some and not others, and one of the most vocal people wanting things done his way doesn't even have the game.

And then you're wanting to give out a prize? Don't even think about it unless your rules and regs are watertight, and this isn't watertight. Not by a long way. You would just be opening yourself up to complaints and other issues.

The rules did seem to be sorted out, but you keep on changing them and trying to add new things when they're not needed. You also seem to spend more time on your fancy graphic in the first post than addressing questions from folk wanting to race. Sort the rules out, set them in stone, and see who still wants to race and race with them. If people don't like a set of rules, there is no point trying to accomodate them now (when most rules are set) as it just causes confusion.

grafpt, my name isn't drumc0de. lol. What's going on? Did I get replaced or something?

And you can keep quiet until you've actually got the game. You're just causing aggravation and confusion.

 

[hukdizzle]

Wow you guys really get into this stuff, I cannot wait to get my wheel and this game once it gets patched and start racing in stuff like this.