Legendary cars dealer refresh

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Wow. Wasnt expecting 5 cars in lcd at once. Shelby Cobra 427 in silver actually is beautiful.
Well the list almost at the end. Here are the final ones until it goes back to the beginning.
I hope we finally get the f40 this time. Ima be pissed if they throw us the rx500 again.

AlpineA220 Race Car
AMG300 SEL 6.8 AMG
JaguarXJR-9
MazdaRX500 / Ferrari F40
RenaultR8 Gordini
NissanR92CP
Mazda787B
Yes please, I'm waiting for these 3 since i discovered grinding :D
 
The Escudo PP has weird handling to me so far. Snap oversteer on turn in and power understeer on the way out. I'm sure it will make more sense on dirt.
 
The Escudo PP has weird handling to me so far. Snap oversteer on turn in and power understeer on the way out. I'm sure it will make more sense on dirt.
The car is meant for hill climbs. It's only natural it would be (should be) terrible on technical, asphalt tracks. I'm in no hurry to buy it, since it currently has no use
 
That linked car is the exact one we got.
Ok. In that case it’s weird PD hasn’t credited the tuner, as they usually do when adding a third-party modification. “Ford Roadster” is quite misleading and vague for a one-off not built by Ford itself.
 
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Ok. In that case it’s weird PD hasn’t credited the tuner, as they usually do when adding a third-party modification. “Ford Roadster” is quite misleading and vague for a one-off not built by Ford itself.
The short version is that it was the quintessential “hot rod” back in the day. It was so common that The Beach Boys wrote a song about it (“Little Deuce Coupe”) which forever changed the way Americans incorrectly pronounce the word. It wasn’t tuned by any one company but rather is a super-nostalgic symbol of every grease monkey’s favorite car to mod and tune, mostly for street races.

Edit: this was before muscle cars hit the scene so people had to hot rod whatever they could get their hands on, usually grandpa’s old Ford sitting in the barn, etc.
 
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Do people really want the F40 that bad, or are they more so annoyed that PD is withholding it? 😆
Both. As someone that already owns one I'm not dying to get my hands on another since it's just not as good as its successor. Looks fantastic and is quite fast, but you need to be a lot more careful with it to put up lap times roughly equal to the F50, and even then I still can't get it to best the F50. Maybe that will change once I get another one to start adding permanent upgrades, but so far I've just not found it to be as good as its little brother in this game (though very few road cars are)

If I didn't already have one though I'd be chomping at the bit myself, that's just human nature. And yes, PD has given many reasons for people to throw shade their way, so of course their price-hike/swapping it to the back 1/3 of the list is going to draw the ire of the community, and deservedly so.
You get the same results at the same PP-figure ... isn't that the point of the whole system?
Not when they're supposedly different classes, no... I can tune the ZL1 or Challenger to 700PP but they're not going to put up laps as quick as a GT3 car at the same PP level, nor should they. In fact I just ran the Ford GT '17 at 700PP with all aero parts/downforce at the highest levels vs the Gr.3/GTE Ford GT '18 and the GTE easily put up 2 second quicker laps despite being heavier, having about 20 less HP/70-80ft.lb less torque, and running the downforce at it's lowest possible setting(s). Both wearing the same shoes (race hards)

Upon checking after the fact the GTE also had longer gears, so if I were to actually get them as close to equal as possible with transmission gearing that margin would probably open up to 2.5-3.0 seconds quicker/lap. Oh, and both are optimally tuned to my driving style and each sees quite a bit of use, so it's not like I was running the road-going version on a stock suspension or anything. They are different animals, as should be expected when one is a bespoke racer. Though the reason for this variation is quite simple: downforce.

I just think it's ridiculous that we're paying ~11mil credits more for the GTO and all we're getting is a livery and a better stock suspension, both of which can be community-sourced for free. Oh, and the '61 has a far better engine note to boot, lol. There's no point in buying the GTO outside of collection purposes... It shows what a farce "race cars" are in this game, as without downforce they have zero advantage over their street legal analogue.
 
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The 250 GTO is just a better tuned version of the 250 GT... Not sure what I was expecting, maybe a quicker car?
I'm not sure what you were expecting either. I've been waiting for the GTO and the F40 to finish my Ferrari collection for a while, had to grind for the credits weeks ago cuz I couldn't play the last week or so.

I just got back and luckily it was there. Bought it, painted it Blanco, like it should be. Went and out some Sports Soft tyres on it, cuz why would you take it to the track without at least Sports Meduims on it?

Went to Catalunya with it at 571pp and took 2nd in the Ferrari race that goes up to 700pp. It is amazingly fun to drive at mid 500s pp, not sure what problems you found with it's driving ability. Only lost to an f8 Tributo which is to be expected, being 130pp down.

Only need the F40 to finish the colection...........
 
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I'm not sure what you were expecting either. I've been waiting for the GTO and the F40 to finish my Ferrari collection for a while, had to grind for the credits weeks ago cuz I couldn't play the last week or so.

I just got back and luckily it was there. Bought it, painted it Blanco, like it should be. Went and out some Sports Soft tyres on it, cuz why would you take it to the track without at least Sports Meduims on it?

Went to Catalunya with it at 571pp and took 2nd in the Ferrari race that goes up to 700pp. It is amazingly fun to drive at mid 500s pp, not sure what problems you found with it's driving ability. Only lost to an f8 Tributo which is to be expected, being 130pp down.

Only need the F40 to finish the colection...........
No problems at all with its driving ability, that's not my issue. It all comes back to the credits/economy. 250 GTO is a fine car and plenty quick for its age, but I've already got the 250 GT '61 besting it (at the time of that post the GTO was nudging it out by a couple tenths of a second) and it just seems like we should have gotten more than a livery, better stock suspension setup, and a worse (at least to my ears) engine note for the ~11mil credits more we have to pay for it over the '61 GT. So I guess my issue is I fail to understand why they didn't do more to set the two cars apart, as the way it currently stands one can apply a livery, drop some weight, and add enough power to the 250 GT '61 and have a quicker car than the GTO for less than half the price while retaining the iconic looks.

It's not really even an issue, I just find it strange like so many other design elements in this game.

Edit: And I'm not saying I think they should have blocked the ability to upgrade the 250 GT '61, I just don't see why we're paying so much more for essentially the same car. Not a fan of this "realistic pricing" that is terribly inconsistent and in many cases nowhere near realistic. The 250's are just the vector for my further venting of frustrations with the economy, if that makes sense.
 
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I talked to McKeen (or whatever his name is) at Haggerty. He didn't say anything about this Ford being a special one or being owned by a particular person. He talked about it like it was a generic Ford. He normally talks my ear off about the individuality of a particular car. I.e. the 250 GTO he takes you from its first owner to current owner to illustrate how special that particular one is. Where's the story behind the Ford?
 
I talked to McKeen (or whatever his name is) at Haggerty. He didn't say anything about this Ford being a special one or being owned by a particular person. He talked about it like it was a generic Ford. He normally talks my ear off about the individuality of a particular car. I.e. the 250 GTO he takes you from its first owner to current owner to illustrate how special that particular one is. Where's the story behind the Ford?
Provenance means a lot.
 
I talked to McKeen (or whatever his name is) at Haggerty. He didn't say anything about this Ford being a special one or being owned by a particular person. He talked about it like it was a generic Ford. He normally talks my ear off about the individuality of a particular car. I.e. the 250 GTO he takes you from its first owner to current owner to illustrate how special that particular one is. Where's the story behind the Ford?
This is what I was getting at earlier. The game doesn’t do a very good job explaining what this car is.
 
Not when they're supposedly different classes, no... I can tune the ZL1 or Challenger to 700PP but they're not going to put up laps as quick as a GT3 car at the same PP level, nor should they. In fact I just ran the Ford GT '17 at 700PP with all aero parts/downforce at the highest levels vs the Gr.3/GTE Ford GT '18 and the GTE easily put up 2 second quicker laps despite being heavier, having about 20 less HP/70-80ft.lb less torque, and running the downforce at it's lowest possible setting(s). Both wearing the same shoes (race hards)

Upon checking after the fact the GTE also had longer gears, so if I were to actually get them as close to equal as possible with transmission gearing that margin would probably open up to 2.5-3.0 seconds quicker/lap. Oh, and both are optimally tuned to my driving style and each sees quite a bit of use, so it's not like I was running the road-going version on a stock suspension or anything. They are different animals, as should be expected when one is a bespoke racer. Though the reason for this variation is quite simple: downforce.

I just think it's ridiculous that we're paying ~11mil credits more for the GTO and all we're getting is a livery and a better stock suspension, both of which can be community-sourced for free. Oh, and the '61 has a far better engine note to boot, lol. There's no point in buying the GTO outside of collection purposes... It shows what a farce "race cars" are in this game, as without downforce they have zero advantage over their street legal analogue.
Apples and oranges. You were comparing two very similar cars in concept (the 2 Ferraris from the 60s) and now you suddenly compare a modern day road and race car. That's simply not the same thing. Of course the race car with lots of aero will be faster on most tracks, but on high speed tracks with lots of straights ... not so sure the story will be the same for the race car with all its drag. Also, the road car's performance will be much harder to extract for less than stellar drivers.

I don't know why you're ranting against the GTO, maybe you're just upset you spent 20 million and it's not the ultimate killer on track you thought it would be? Well, the PP figure should have been an indicator for how fast it is.

I also don't know what your problem with the classification of race cars in GT7 is ... fact of the matter is, that some cars were built as such and others weren't - that's the only thing the hashtag means. Nobody claimed that just because a car is classified as a race car in game, it will be any faster because of it.

And, by the way, the 250 GTO is and was street legal.
 
Where's the story behind the Ford?

Probably because it's not just your average joe generic Hot Rod but a special one:

I like it :dopey:
 
Yes as I want 2 more, one to turn into a F40 GTE and another to keep stock as the one I have now is LM/Competizone spec.
Can you please post the tune/setup i have to use to get the LM spec?

@PD: Why are you withholding the F40...?
 
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Can you please post the tune/setup i have to use to get the LM spec?

@PD: Why are you withholding the F40...?
It's not a particular setup/tune but specs that closely match the real car:
https://www.supercars.net/blog/1989-ferrari-f40-lm-guide-history-specifications-performance/

The only difference with mine is that the weight is a low as possible but the car is a very good performer especially on track like La Sarthe without the chicanes as it goes around 230MPH.

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