Relaxed, General Forza 6 Chat

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I'll try to field this one since I largely feel the same way. @sepulturite81 please feel free to jump in too!

It's a combination of factors for both tracks. Neither of them feel like they could be real tracks, and I think that's what the meaning here is. A fantasy track is fine by me, as long as it feels like a race track, which neither of these do.

That said, let me break it down by track:

Prague
First of all, this track feels super inauthentic. It's like 6 lanes wide the whole way, which, if you've ever even seen pictures of Prague, is totally unrealistic. It should probably be less than half as wide as it is to even come close to how those roads should feel.

Second, this is a track that would never pass scrutiny for any real racing in 2015. It goes through a tunnel with unprotected stonework struts, it goes over a cobblestone(!)* bridge that is lined with unprotected statues(!) with no catch fencing(!), and it crosses tram lines* which would cut tires and damage suspension like no-one's business. Add in the cliff on the outside of one of the fastest corners, which is covered by a standard wood-and-girder barrier, and there is no way a race would ever be put on here.

All of that adds up to that every time I drive this track, I am reminded I am playing a game. It totally breaks immersion with the plethora of unrealistic and inaccurate features. I'd rather not have it at all than have it in the state it's in now.

Rio
Disclaimer: I actually like the Rio National layout.

Most of the same problems as Prague, actually. This one at least isn't outrageously wide, but it's still probably wider than it should be. Anyways, first of all, the tunnel has exposed steel grate covers, which sure, could be welded down, but I still feel like those wouldn't be allowed; additionally, there are zero locations for safety crews or marshals to be located inside of it, making it a deathtrap considering the speeds you go through it at.

Second, again this track crosses tram lines, which are a huge safety hazard and wouldn't be allowed* on a real circuit. It also has a section on cobblestone*. This is only a problem with the Full layout, but it's a big one.

Third, the downhill straight (again on the Full layout) has a wooden fence protecting it from a sheer cliff. No catch fencing, no ARMCO, nothing. A. Wooden. Fence. On the outside of a fairly fast corner, then all the way down a straight. Seems legit. The fact that the track runs next to a sheer cliff at all seems pretty suspect, but that....yeah.

Finally, the final tight right hand corner seems pretty not acceptable to me. There's a solid curb up to whatever surface that corner is on, and yeah, they have the little portion of it that has the ramp, but...I really doubt this would get approved by any series. They'd make the organizers either run the ramp all the way to the wall (at the very least) or flatten the whole thing out to level. Either way, there wouldn't be races held with that corner as it exists in the game.

Most of these issues are only with the full track, and saying all that I do actually like the National one, but even that is not super realistic-seeming to me. In general it has the same issue as Prague, in that it constantly reminds me I'm playing a game because no real race would even possible happen there. They feel like the sort of track you'd find in an arcade game, because they don't feel like race tracks- they feel arcade-y.


Hopefully this helps explain things a little better!



*- I will happily remove these from my list of problems if someone can provide evidence of modern races being run over cobblestone or tram lines, but I can't think of any, and it seems like a really bad idea to me intuitively.
Yep that's pretty much spot on to what I was going to say. Nothing to do with the physics of the game, just the tracks themselves and the sheer unlikeliness that races would be held there. It just feels like they should be on a need for speed game. But each to their own and all that :gtpflag:
 
Anything but the sticky grass! It gave me whiplash just watching a car go from 180 to 5 mph in 2 seconds.

I always thought it would be funny if Funny or Die or College Humor would do a skit on sticky grass, show your driver shooting through the windshield while impossibly slowing from a high rate of speed like they used too. :P
 
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Anything but the sticky grass! It gave me whiplash just watching a car go from 180 to 5 mph in 2 seconds

I always thought it would be funny if Funny or Die or College Humor would do a skit on sticky grass, show your driver shooting through the windshield while impossibly slowing from a high rate of speed like they used too :P
Fully agree 👍 I despised the sticky grass

I'd rather people online beat me by cutting than have to put up with the accursed sticky grass :yuck:
 
we have sticky walls though, and this is also a necessity not unlike sticky grass/power reduction for fair gameplay.
one is for corner cutting, other is for wall grind, and you still get this effect of 180->5 there
 
Going around the Le Mans circuit, there are several spots of the track that are asphalt or something similar and it'll slow you down immensely. Especially when you go wide around the turn after the Porsche Curves.
 
Going around the Le Mans circuit, there are several spots of the track that are asphalt or something similar and it'll slow you down immensely. Especially when you go wide around the turn after the Porsche Curves.

I've been thinking about this as well. Aren't there usually some yellow stripes on the surface where it happens?
 
In Forza Motorsport, everything that isn't asphalt is so full of friction it's basically glue. I think that's why we'll never see off-road racing in the Forza series outside of Horizon. :lol:
 
It would be a rage infested ordeal if I was racing online and some jack wagon causes a big wreck, and on top of that I got stuck in some sticky grass. :banghead:
 
It would be a rage infested ordeal if I was racing online and some jack wagon causes a big wreck, and on top of that I got stuck in some sticky grass. :banghead:
I'm all too familiar with that in Forza 4. Being a regular in multi-class lobbies, you'd get some idiot who forgets that he's not meant to beat the E Class cars in his A Class Ferrari or something, so he punts the E Class driver off and straight into the sticky grass.
 
there is no sticky grass in forza 6.
they removed it after community complained and now we have the corner-cutters problem.
one work-around is to spend some time in leagues to get to pinnacle, and then both corner-cutters and griefers will almost eclipse from your online racing. but not an overall solution, as leagues are always kinda limited compared to hoppers.
maybe they could implement league classification system in hoppers too.. I think it might help but who knows.
 
Just got done making this mini
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Fully tuned with a supercharger and rear wheel drive swap.
 
It was mentioned earlier but I like Prague.

I think it's a fun track.

With that said I went out to Prague last year and I can safely say it is incredibly unrealistic.

That 2nd bridge is blocked off so you have no way of driving on it, the roads are also so much for narrower.

With that said I do still enjoy driving it in the game and glad they kept it in Forza 6.
 
So.... I've just been gifted a 2nd Ferrari 312 P, I've yet to even run a league race this week.

Anyone else just got a second one? Or maybe even first one if you didn't run the league last week?

Looks like I got a second one too. One would have been enough, but I don't mind having two :lol:
 
Yep. Got a second Ferrari 312P. I feel a bit bad that it happened though. Wish I could gift it to someone who didn't get one period. :(
But ah well, guess I've got a personal 312P, AND the proper one as well.
 
Has anyone who didn't place in the top 50% in leagues get one? Maybe turn 10 gave it to everyone so they didn't have to keep listening to people 🤬 and moan about it?
 
I just started up my game and nope; I don't have a Ferrari 312 P. I'm fine with it, I don't really care for that car anyway. I was just annoyed before about the idea of Turn 10 reintroducing unicorns.
 
I still can't get into the leagues at all!

I get as far as connecting to the game server then it kicks me out by saying either failed to establish a connection or multiplayer is currently unavailable.
 
I still can't get into the leagues at all!

I get as far as connecting to the game server then it kicks me out by saying either failed to establish a connection or multiplayer is currently unavailable.
That happened to me all last night. I was already up around 26% but wanted to run another race just to keep my numbers up but could never get connected. I wonder if they're handing the Ferrari out to anyone who has raced the series regardless of finishing position as an apology for the server problems.
 
That happened to me all last night. I was already up around 26% but wanted to run another race just to keep my numbers up but could never get connected. I wonder if they're handing the Ferrari out to anyone who has raced the series regardless of finishing position as an apology for the server problems.

I haven't raced at all this week and one of my friends was in the top 51% last week :lol:, I got a second one while he still hasn't got a first (he has done a couple of races this week as well). Therefore I don't think this is the case.

They did say the cars would probably arrive Monday or Tuesday, so my guess is they set some kind of condition on the league where they're automatically sent out on the Saturday(?) and then T10 did their manual process of handing them out anyway so we now end up with 2.
 
I stand to be corrected until I turn on my X1, but I believe that was in FM5

Iirc, you get credits in FM6

oooh, rapid edit - Because its a gift car yes? Got ya 👍
I can confirm there is no money for selling it. That was the first thing I tried when I got my second 312P last night.
 
You can sell prize spin cars as well. I won a Lotus E23 a while back, and sold it after absolutely hating it. :lol:
:lol: I wasn't aware of that. Last night I had tried to sell my starter car but it only gave me the option to remove it, so I figured those would fall in the same way as well.
 
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