Should PD have let the modding slide? ... OP Updated.

[arora]

You guys are all the same I'm not suprised none of you have lives and/or even a gf. Do you atleast have jobs?

Your own ignorance and selfishness seems to blind your thinking & life skills.

Ah, the best way to win an argument while the others are simply discussing things 👍

 

[playnthru]

Really? Oh man, now I feel like a superstar
A non-cheating one of course...

Me too, I never cheated nothing. I don't modify my game saves. But yes I'm all for Hybrids.👍

Keep posting funny stories and flaming endlessly it makes for good daytime drama.....Superstar

 

[Ranman20]

Well we all know that isn't true now do we. Since your coordination, comments, points, etc all seem to be mistakes.

By checking resume do you mean someone elses resume? It has to have your name on it though first. Find an eraser. Not sure how you wouldn't know what jobs you had.

You're just a damn troll. If you're really tired of this thread then leave. Your not welcomed in all honesty. You said so many false facts and gave off negativity.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Um.. PD doesn't even have the money to make a GT6 Trial (demo) why should they release a modediting tool for a couple of selfish kids who can't even respect the hardwork PD has done for GT5. That's just an excuse but actually while we're here. Let's have a quiz, Say you are a company like PD making a game like it. You spent 3/4 years making and perfecting your game you have deadlines you're constantly rushing your company to make ends meet. You then have to downgrade because you make your game a little too good for the PS3 can handle. So you work a way around it, You're busy with life, and research for GT5. You try for the Nur 24 hour because you can. You finally reach the release date for your game. You celebrate the day of launch knowing the next few days you're starting on your next game. A few years later a few obsessive nerds crack the code of your game and destroy it with a bunch of extremely ugly cars that they call "More realistic hybrids" How do you go about fixing it? You are already busy with your next game. However a large amount of complaints are coming in from Supportive consumers who aren't happy with the mods period. Realistic or not. How do you go about fixing this issue? Think about it. Your money is limited. The money is already lined up for your next game. Now you have to deal with a couple of selfish kids on a forum who cry about it that feature being taken away from them? The job isn't even finished. Think outside the box, even under the box.

It's a waste of time for PD. I think you need to know your facts or even ideas before you and other fanboys of this modding stuff decide to even try to tell others that they don't know what they are talking about. Stop being selfish.

You guys are all the same I'm not suprised none of you have lives and/or even a gf. Do you atleast have jobs?

Your own ignorance and selfishness seems to blind your thinking & life skills.

Here's a few facts for ya. The retail revenue for this edition of the game is $500,000,000. Currently PD has upwards of 140 people on payroll. Assuming a few executive salaries and a few well paid programmers/developers, that's a weekly payroll approaching $140,000 or over $1,000,000 every two months. Crying poor isn't going to cut it for this argument so let's lay that to rest.

I assume you are aware that hybriding has been a part of the GT series from the beginning. There's an entire forum on GTP for it right here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=13 Call me crazy but it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out that it would appear in GT5 at some point and if I as a stooge from Canada can figure that out, surely Kaz and PD can figure that out too. Frankly I think it took longer than it should have, given the massive talent out there who like to do this kind of stuff. PD should have been well prepared for this and had a strategy in place and ready to go. They got caught with their pants down because of poor planning and underestimating the ingenuity and love people have for this game and nothing else.

Men in particular have been modding or souping up cars or whatever you want to call it, for 100 years probably. The first automobile race was 118 years ago and we've been modifying cars ever since. It's only natural that it should be a bigger part of GT5, supposedly the industry leader in driving simulation. Forza does a far better job in this respect and we laugh at Forza.

I assume you can agree with all of that. I understand your objection was and remains that hybriding was done outside the parameters of the game and that it wasn't available to everyone, stuff was hidden making cheating possible etc. All of us, especially they realistic hybriders can understand that and we accept that because there are a few bad apples, we can sometimes be painted with the same brush. Really we do get that, but you also must accept that those of us that were operating within the usual parameters of GT5 or offline, creating fun cars to drive with cool sounds and more effective handling and gearboxes, without trying to cheat the system, are going to object to being called cheaters right? We see ourselves as innovators and creators, modifying cars for our own enjoyment, not to take away anyone else's enjoyment, including your own. We all agree that cars with outrageous amounts of horsepower dont' belong in the game.

You must also understand what a golden opportunity this was for PD to introduce an exciting new concept to the game, how easy it would have been to pick up the ball and run with it. The introduction of multiple levels of sorting parameters in lobbies would have completely solved the problem. They could have done what other game makers have done and brought the modders into the fold to help design new software to make the game more exciting, more playable, extend it's life way beyond what it is now, which is almost dead. As it is, they created a complete fustercluck now. All the worst parts of hybriding remain, including the dreaded 2500 hp/550pp monster cars along with the 100,000 hp X1's. This is the worst of all possible solutions.

Can we not find some common ground here? Can you give what I said a thorough read and see if there are not at least some things you can agree with?

 

[PepeMickey]

I agree with you. The forum should remove this thread period. It's just like I said a Safe Haven for the modding community.
Just a bunch of selfish arrogant, ignorant kids. Who NEED to group up to make a point. The worst part is they actually think what they said is meaningful. If they were part of a large corporation and given the task of making decisions their co. would collapse. They would be fired immediately I know I sure would. I'd probably have them arrested for wasting my time.

Dunce hats for both of us because we understand that kids will be kids. Never adults. Growing up for yourself is the first step.
Too bad I'm probably the youngest person here. It's like talking to zombies about making a better world. Helpful? Not so much.👎

Like I said in my other thread, they act like 5 year-olds who just watched ''The Fast and The Furious'' for the first time.... ''I wan't Nitrous!!''
''Daddy (aka. PD), buy me some Hot Wheels or I won't do my homework!!!!'' ''No, I won't eat my veggies (aka. buying GT6) until I get my 123456465788799 HP cars!!!!!

But seriously, let's leave this guys alone in their corner.

 

[Ranman20]

Here's a few facts for ya. The retail revenue for this edition of the game is $500,000,000. Currently PD has upwards of 140 people on payroll. Assuming a few executive salaries and a few well paid programmers/developers, that's a weekly payroll approaching $140,000 or over $1,000,000 every two months. Crying poor isn't going to cut it for this argument so let's lay that to rest.

I assume you are aware that hybriding has been a part of the GT series from the beginning. There's an entire forum on GTP for it right here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=13 Call me crazy but it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out that it would appear in GT5 at some point and if I as a stooge from Canada can figure that out, surely Kaz and PD can figure that out too. Frankly I think it took longer than it should have, given the massive talent out there who like to do this kind of stuff. PD should have been well prepared for this and had a strategy in place and ready to go. They got caught with their pants down because of poor planning and underestimating the ingenuity and love people have for this game and nothing else.

Men in particular have been modding or souping up cars or whatever you want to call it, for 100 years probably. The first automobile race was 118 years ago and we've been modifying cars ever since. It's only natural that it should be a bigger part of GT5, supposedly the industry leader in driving simulation. Forza does a far better job in this respect and we laugh at Forza.

I assume you can agree with all of that. I understand your objection was and remains that hybriding was done outside the parameters of the game and that it wasn't available to everyone, stuff was hidden making cheating possible etc. All of us, especially they realistic hybriders can understand that and we accept that because there are a few bad apples, we can sometimes be painted with the same brush. Really we do get that, but you also must accept that those of us that were operating within the usual parameters of GT5 or offline, creating fun cars to drive with cool sounds and more effective handling and gearboxes, without trying to cheat the system, are going to object to being called cheaters right? We see ourselves as innovators and creators, modifying cars for our own enjoyment, not to take away anyone else's enjoyment, including your own. We all agree that cars with outrageous amounts of horsepower dont' belong in the game.

You must also understand what a golden opportunity this was for PD to introduce an exciting new concept to the game, how easy it would have been to pick up the ball and run with it. The introduction of multiple levels of sorting parameters in lobbies would have completely solved the problem. They could have done what other game makers have done and brought the modders into the fold to help design new software to make the game more exciting, more playable, extend it's life way beyond what it is now, which is almost dead. As it is, they created a complete fustercluck now. All the worst parts of hybriding remain, including the dreaded 2500 hp/550pp monster cars along with the 100,000 hp X1's. This is the worst of all possible solutions.

Can we not find some common ground here? Can you give what I said a thorough read and see if there are not at least some things you can agree with?

Don't waste your time man. All she gonna do is skim through it.

 

[AiYuna]

He has provided proof before. There is a little button on the bottom of each post that allows you to multi-quote.

They should remove this thread? Are you telling the owners and moderators how to do their job?

You seem hell bent on people breaking rules when you have broken forum rules by double or even triple posting.

So do you only follow the rules you feel like?

Here's one for the both of you. 2 birds with 1 boulder.

It's hard to understand how when you're still new to the forum Mr.s 2,598 & 1,625 Posts I didn't see any "Here is how you do Multiple replies in one post." Too much big boy talk. Great example for the rest of the class.

Yes the thread should be closed since this thread seems to have people who insult more than they actually read comments. I've respected most of you enough to read all of your posts fully. Even ignoring some of the truly ignorant negative ones.

2nd question yes I am. Since not much has been done so far. No I'm not disrespecting the moderators. That is 2 different things sir. instead of trying to be a little kid and tattling on someone who makes a comment. It's amazing how it's worse on the Forums then it is on PS3 where all the jerks seem to gather to gang up on one persons opposite opinion. Sure you may not agree. That doesn't give you the right to be a jerk in reply..
Go apologize to both your parents right now for wasting their time raising the both of you. Since aren't showing an sign of setting a good example.

 

[thelvynau]

Like I said in my other thread, they act like 5 year-olds who just watched ''The Fast and The Furious'' for the first time.... ''I wan't Nitrous!!''
''Daddy (aka. PD), buy me some Hot Wheels or I won't do my homework!!!!'' ''No, I won't eat my veggies (aka. buying GT6) until I get my 123456465788799 HP cars!!!!!

But seriously, let's leave this guys alone in their corner.

I have never read a more ridiculous description of a topic in my time on here.

Your post shows me you have no idea what your talking about and just want to jump on the "anti hybrid" train to follow everyone else.

Is it to much to discuss this without the childish rants?

 

[Johnnypenso]

Don't waste your time man. All she gonna do is skim through it.

I'm a sucker for a lost cause..

 

[PepeMickey]

He has provided proof before. There is a little button on the bottom of each post that allows you to multi-quote.




Here's one for the both of you. 2 birds with 1 boulder.

It's hard to understand how when you're still new to the forum Mr.s 2,598 & 1,625 Posts I didn't see any "Here is how you do Multiple replies in one post." Too much big boy talk. Great example for the rest of the class.

Yes the thread should be closed since this thread seems to have people who insult more than they actually read comments. I've respected most of you enough to read all of your posts fully. Even ignoring some of the truly ignorant negative ones.

2nd question yes I am. Since not much has been done so far. No I'm not disrespecting the moderators. That is 2 different things sir. instead of trying to be a little kid and tattling on someone who makes a comment. It's amazing how it's worse on the Forums then it is on PS3 where all the jerks seem to gather to gang up on one persons opposite opinion. Sure you may not agree. That doesn't give you the right to be a jerk in reply..
Go apologize to both your parents right now for wasting their time raising the both of you. Since aren't showing an sign of setting a good example.

HAHA!!! You owned those ''BIG BOYS''.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Never mind. An internet argument with a a teenage girl from Japan sounds too much like a bad Sailor Moon episode.

Back to the topic. Should they have let it slide. Yes, and they should have sanctioned it so they could have better protected their product (DLC and cheating).

 

[arora]

Like I said in my other thread, they act like 5 year-olds

Also a very clever way to show your smarts, you guys are a riot

 

[PepeMickey]

HAHA!!! You owned those ''BIG BOYS''.

I have never read a more ridiculous description of a topic in my time on here.

Your post shows me you have no idea what your talking about and just want to jump on the "anti hybrid" train to follow everyone else.

Is it to much to discuss this without the childish rants?

Nope, I understand and I know what ''Hybrids'' are all about but I have to lower myself for you guys to understand me and truth be told, I love your reactions, keep 'em coming.

 

[thelvynau]

Ah but you are telling them how to do their job by stating it should be closed.

And please lay off the insults.

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

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[Lewis_Hamilton_]

Ignore (or mod delete), wireless mouse played up and clicked the wrong button.

 

[PepeMickey]

Not sure if 7 years old, troll, or both.

Troll would be my guess, since you have been accussing other people of acting like 5 year olds, then doing the same yourself.

You can twist it however you want, I'm not the one braking the rules and also, I'm not the one getting mad... I'm trying so hard not to put ''that'' expression...

 

[AiYuna]

Here's a few facts for ya. The retail revenue for this edition of the game is $500,000,000. Currently PD has upwards of 140 people on payroll. Assuming a few executive salaries and a few well paid programmers/developers, that's a weekly payroll approaching $140,000 or over $1,000,000 every two months. Crying poor isn't going to cut it for this argument so let's lay that to rest.

I assume you are aware that hybriding has been a part of the GT series from the beginning. There's an entire forum on GTP for it right here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=13 Call me crazy but it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out that it would appear in GT5 at some point and if I as a stooge from Canada can figure that out, surely Kaz and PD can figure that out too. Frankly I think it took longer than it should have, given the massive talent out there who like to do this kind of stuff. PD should have been well prepared for this and had a strategy in place and ready to go. They got caught with their pants down because of poor planning and underestimating the ingenuity and love people have for this game and nothing else.

Men in particular have been modding or souping up cars or whatever you want to call it, for 100 years probably. The first automobile race was 118 years ago and we've been modifying cars ever since. It's only natural that it should be a bigger part of GT5, supposedly the industry leader in driving simulation. Forza does a far better job in this respect and we laugh at Forza.

I assume you can agree with all of that. I understand your objection was and remains that hybriding was done outside the parameters of the game and that it wasn't available to everyone, stuff was hidden making cheating possible etc. All of us, especially they realistic hybriders can understand that and we accept that because there are a few bad apples, we can sometimes be painted with the same brush. Really we do get that, but you also must accept that those of us that were operating within the usual parameters of GT5 or offline, creating fun cars to drive with cool sounds and more effective handling and gearboxes, without trying to cheat the system, are going to object to being called cheaters right? We see ourselves as innovators and creators, modifying cars for our own enjoyment, not to take away anyone else's enjoyment, including your own. We all agree that cars with outrageous amounts of horsepower dont' belong in the game.

You must also understand what a golden opportunity this was for PD to introduce an exciting new concept to the game, how easy it would have been to pick up the ball and run with it. The introduction of multiple levels of sorting parameters in lobbies would have completely solved the problem. They could have done what other game makers have done and brought the modders into the fold to help design new software to make the game more exciting, more playable, extend it's life way beyond what it is now, which is almost dead. As it is, they created a complete fustercluck now. All the worst parts of hybriding remain, including the dreaded 2500 hp/550pp monster cars along with the 100,000 hp X1's. This is the worst of all possible solutions.

Can we not find some common ground here? Can you give what I said a thorough read and see if there are not at least some things you can agree with?

I actually agree with you strongly that was actually a very marvelous example of how a postivie arguement should be. No insults, no rude comments etc. I greatly respect that.

Anyway you're right however we don't know exactly what's going on at PD. We don't know exactly what they are working on, what most of their time is being used for in tems of GT6 or w/e other projects are gong on at PD. But before all the drama I simply made a comment about the modding ending. Because even if PD stops all sign of it. Then someone brings it back. What's there to stop people from using too much of it..

Look at drifting for example. I had hard time finding Drifters who highspeed drift also. But with that modding stuff going on It was everywhere. A certain team who will not be named used a Grip multiplier to cheat wins every time.
My point now is, How exactly could PD limit and make this modding fair.

Also I've never once even touched one of those Modded cars myself or the software. I'm like I said before a supportive consumer in gaming among other things. I don't cheat or use any 3rd party extras.

Ah but you are telling them how to do their job by stating it should be closed.

And please lay off the insults.

If someone insults me I retaliate just in a less aggressive way. I'm not going to say bad words especially since I don't know any.

But you misunderstood me, I said "This thread SHOULD BE CLOSED"
I never said "Moderators I DEMAND YOU TO CLOSE THIS THREAD, THAT IS AN ORDER SOLDIER"
Try to calm down, take a deep breath, and process it. Understand mistakes and misunderstandings.

OK now the sailormoon jokes you sir officially as of now, 30/2013 you Sir Need a life. Possible a better website or other types of help that you are using to make your insults.

 

[Hei]

Like I said in my other thread, they act like 5 year-olds who just watched ''The Fast and The Furious'' for the first time.... ''I wan't Nitrous!!''
''Daddy (aka. PD), buy me some Hot Wheels or I won't do my homework!!!!'' ''No, I won't eat my veggies (aka. buying GT6) until I get my 123456465788799 HP cars!!!!!

But seriously, let's leave this guys alone in their corner.

Nitrous has been in older GT Games. Nitrous is also way older than videogames themselves.

Here's one for the both of you. 2 birds with 1 boulder.

It's hard to understand how when you're still new to the forum Mr.s 2,598 & 1,625 Posts I didn't see any "Here is how you do Multiple replies in one post." Too much big boy talk. Great example for the rest of the class.

Post count is meaningless. I am just trying to get proper posting habits across to you. If you feel I am looking down on you, so be it.

Yes the thread should be closed since this thread seems to have people who insult more than they actually read comments. I've respected most of you enough to read all of your posts fully. Even ignoring some of the truly ignorant negative ones.

That seems to be mainly you. Attacking people and saying they have no lives or girlfriends.

2nd question yes I am. Since not much has been done so far. No I'm not disrespecting the moderators. That is 2 different things sir. instead of trying to be a little kid and tattling on someone who makes a comment. It's amazing how it's worse on the Forums then it is on PS3 where all the jerks seem to gather to gang up on one persons opposite opinion. Sure you may not agree. That doesn't give you the right to be a jerk in reply..
Go apologize to both your parents right now for wasting their time raising the both of you. Since aren't showing an sign of setting a good example.

Yet again you describe yourself. Also having made fun of my English a bit back, you keep making many errors. The reason I don't understand you at times is because you lack proper English. Please take some time to reevaluate your posts. Take some time, calm down and drink some tea. You are posting with a very angry demeanor. It isn't looking pretty.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Dear God, the amount of hypocrisy coming from AiYuna is overwhelming. Oh, and Pepe, did you actually learn what cheating is? Because it looks like you didn't.

 

[Dan]

Pepe and AiYuna, you two are so funny. You're perfect for each other. How's about this: stop the argument so you two can live together happily ever after? I think that would be much better than degrading yourselves even more on the Internet.

 

[Hei]

Pepe and AiYuna, you two are so funny. You're perfect for each other. How's about this: stop the argument so you two can live together happily ever after? I think that would be much better than degrading yourselves even more on the Internet.

But Sunset Sailor will get jealous! Is this a love triangle now?!

 

[AiYuna]

Nitrous has been in older GT Games. Nitrous is also way older than videogames themselves.

Post count is meaningless. I am just trying to get proper posting habits across to you. If you feel I am looking down on you, so be it.


That seems to be mainly you. Attacking people and saying they have no lives or girlfriends.


Yet again you describe yourself. Also having made fun of my English a bit back, you keep making many errors. The reason I don't understand you at times is because you lack proper English. Please take some time to reevaluate your posts. Take some time, calm down and drink some tea. You are posting with a very angry demeanor. It isn't looking pretty.

um.. lol I'm not angry in the slightest. Just amazed at how you "Bros" group up to make these irrelevant posts.
You say I attack you, however I am only retaliating. IF you see errors point them out to me. Not only am I typing fast with ice cold hands, English Isn't my first language.

Just next time you don't like what someones saying don't say anything if the next thing you have to say is an insult. Pretty simple.

 

[Ranman20]

She a Junior Hei. So she hasn't passed puberty yet just like Justin Bieber.

 

[AiYuna]

Pepe and AiYuna, you two are so funny. You're perfect for each other. How's about this: stop the argument so you two can live together happily ever after? I think that would be much better than degrading yourselves even more on the Internet.

Degrading? When we are pretty much provoking the jerks who love to reply with aggression and extreme prejudice. Lol But really I'm glad you're enjoying the show. I'll keep account of those who's only purpose in life is to be entertained by a forum argument with no meaning. Keep up the good work.

 

[PepeMickey]

But Sunset Sailor will get jealous! Is this a love triangle now?!

Wait what? Who is that guy? Oh hell no!!! I thought... I don't know, I just thought...

 

[AiYuna]

She a Junior Hei. So she hasn't passed puberty yet just like Justin Bieber.

Very comical How long did it take you to search that one?

There must be a GTPlanet.com preset insults section somewhere.

And I'm sorry I don't spend my entire life on the GTP forums lol. It's not my kind of entertainment. Sounds like a very difficult time in your life you have there Ranman20.

 

[Dan]

But Sunset Sailor will get jealous! Is this a love triangle now?!

Whoops! I confused those two. Oh well.

I'll keep account of those who's only purpose in life is to be entertained by a forum argument with no meaning.

You do that.

Keep up the good work.

Oh, you're too kind.

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

Here's a few facts for ya. The retail revenue for this edition of the game is $500,000,000. Currently PD has upwards of 140 people on payroll. Assuming a few executive salaries and a few well paid programmers/developers, that's a weekly payroll approaching $140,000 or over $1,000,000 every two months. Crying poor isn't going to cut it for this argument so let's lay that to rest.

I assume you are aware that hybriding has been a part of the GT series from the beginning. There's an entire forum on GTP for it right here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=13 Call me crazy but it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out that it would appear in GT5 at some point and if I as a stooge from Canada can figure that out, surely Kaz and PD can figure that out too. Frankly I think it took longer than it should have, given the massive talent out there who like to do this kind of stuff. PD should have been well prepared for this and had a strategy in place and ready to go. They got caught with their pants down because of poor planning and underestimating the ingenuity and love people have for this game and nothing else.

Men in particular have been modding or souping up cars or whatever you want to call it, for 100 years probably. The first automobile race was 118 years ago and we've been modifying cars ever since. It's only natural that it should be a bigger part of GT5, supposedly the industry leader in driving simulation. Forza does a far better job in this respect and we laugh at Forza.

I assume you can agree with all of that. I understand your objection was and remains that hybriding was done outside the parameters of the game and that it wasn't available to everyone, stuff was hidden making cheating possible etc. All of us, especially they realistic hybriders can understand that and we accept that because there are a few bad apples, we can sometimes be painted with the same brush. Really we do get that, but you also must accept that those of us that were operating within the usual parameters of GT5 or offline, creating fun cars to drive with cool sounds and more effective handling and gearboxes, without trying to cheat the system, are going to object to being called cheaters right? We see ourselves as innovators and creators, modifying cars for our own enjoyment, not to take away anyone else's enjoyment, including your own. We all agree that cars with outrageous amounts of horsepower dont' belong in the game.

You must also understand what a golden opportunity this was for PD to introduce an exciting new concept to the game, how easy it would have been to pick up the ball and run with it. The introduction of multiple levels of sorting parameters in lobbies would have completely solved the problem. They could have done what other game makers have done and brought the modders into the fold to help design new software to make the game more exciting, more playable, extend it's life way beyond what it is now, which is almost dead. As it is, they created a complete fustercluck now. All the worst parts of hybriding remain, including the dreaded 2500 hp/550pp monster cars along with the 100,000 hp X1's. This is the worst of all possible solutions.

Can we not find some common ground here? Can you give what I said a thorough read and see if there are not at least some things you can agree with?

Imagine what everyone would think towards the legitimate hybriding community if they were forced to read this post... bravo. Read every word and completely and thoroughly enjoyed it. That's how an argument is won.

 

[PepeMickey]

Pepe and AiYuna, you two are so funny. You're perfect for each other. How's about this: stop the argument so you two can live together happily ever after? I think that would be much better than degrading yourselves even more on the Internet.

You were funny until the "degrading yourselves" part, I can give you some classes on how to troll but you'll have to study hard for your tests, no copying or cheating in my school.