The General Airplane Thread

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Badass photo!

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That's insane!

Is it possible it has been faked? I can't believe the airframe could take that, let alone that it would take 100 tries to get it that perfect.
 
That's insane!

Is it possible it has been faked? I can't believe the airframe could take that, let alone that it would take 100 tries to get it that perfect.

Nope its real. Here is another one just a tiny bit slower. I found an amazing onboard video of one of these a while back, I will try and track it down.




EDIT: Here is the onboard vid. This guy seems to be taking his time a bit more, however some mental pilot in a rush could probably go quite a bit faster, haha.

 
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My photos from the Victory Parade on May, 9.

Mi-26 - the world's largest transport helicopter.
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Mi-8MTV-5 transport helicopter
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Mi-28N "Night Hunter" attack helicopters
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Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopters
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An-124 Ruslan - the world's largest military transport aircraft
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Beriev A-50 "Bumble-bee" - airbourne early warning (AEW) aircraft.
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Il-78 aerial refueling tanker & Tu-160 "White Swan" supersonic strategic bomber / missile carrier
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Tu-22M3 supersonic missile carriers
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Tu-95MS "Bear" missile carriers
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Su-24M frontline bombers
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MiG-31BM interceptor aircrafts
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Su-34 fighter-bombers
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Su-25 attack aircrafts. Aww yeah! :D
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So I spend a little time each month on Dreamland Resort which is mainly a site about Area 51 (top secret aircraft development, NOT alien stuff) and they've been chatting about some mystery plains spotted over Kansas and Texas recently. Some are saying B2's, but the trailing edge of the plane in question seems to be different than the B2, also the "point" of the leading edges seems to be at different angles.

Kansas: (Read more HERE)

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Texas: (Read more HERE)

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Thoughts?
Every time around this year I do some high altitude gliding with smokers to imitate turbine contrails, I usually call these outings project Aurora

Reminds me a bit of the F-121 ideas that people were throwing around 10 years ago. Also the Military tried to claim these were nothing more than B-2s but that doesn't pan out sadly...for them.
 
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Great picks! Were the Bears as loud as I'm told they are?

Also, I like how you largely refrained from NATO call signs too :)
Yes, pretty loud. A lot louder than the 160 or 22M.
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I don't like the NATO designations, we have our own. The Tu-160 is not Blackjack, it's White Swan to us. And the Mi-24/35 is a Crocodile, not Hind. The Bear is identical though (Medved') :)
 
Yes, pretty loud. A lot louder than the 160 or 22M.

I don't like the NATO designations, we have our own. The Tu-160 is not Blackjack, it's White Swan to us. And the Mi-24/35 is a Crocodile, not Hind. The Bear is identical though (Medved') :)
I'm all for it, the NATO names weren't the best, certainly not if they're your own aircraft.
 
I'm all for it, the NATO names weren't the best, certainly not if they're your own aircraft.
The NATO names aren't great, but it seems that there's a reason for it. Aside from the first letter denoting the type of aircraft, the number of syllables gives propulsion - one syllable words for props, multiple syllables for jets. The wiki entry is short, but interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_reporting_name
 
My photos from the Victory Parade on May, 9.
Il-78 aerial refueling tanker & Tu-160 "White Swan" supersonic strategic bomber / missile carrier

You forgot to append "World's largest" to that. It's almost like you were in Russia or something.

I'm all for it, the NATO names weren't the best, certainly not if they're your own aircraft.
I don't know, I think even some of the silly names sound kind of iconic now just because of how good the planes were. But then there are also ones like Flagon and Flipper...

Northrop fighters are too underrated. Sometimes I wonder what would have been if the F-20 was taken over the F-16.
 
You forgot to append "World's largest" to that. It's almost like you were in Russia or something.
World's largest combat aircraft, and the second fastest strategic bomber (after the XB-70 Valkyrie).
I am from Russia, not just "were". ;)
 
You guys might get a kick out of this brilliant, completely factual, not at all sensationalized piece of journalism by CNN :)

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/16/travel/hawaii-near-collision-ntsb/index.html?hpt=hp_t2



Also,

Corsair, my favorite bird from the Pacific theater.
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Spitfire because Spitfire.
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B-25, one of my favorite bombers.
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You Europeans can make a damn good jet
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Gripen
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Old school cool: F2H-3 Banshees of VF 141 over Mt. Fuji, 1956.
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> 600 feet per minute
> 3 metres per second

That's less than half of a low rate climb, and an empty one can do 10 times that. :lol:
 
I don't really see the Eurofighter being that amazing. It is basically a modernised version of this designed in 1945 in my eyes.
Visually or engineering wise? I can't really agree with either. The EF-2000 is pretty much the best thing at air to air that isn't a F-22.
 
The J7W was expected to be one of the best according to tests as well. The EF had 50 years to improve the design.
 
They're completely unrelated though. There is no way to compare a subsonic piston engined fighter to a delta wing supersonic 4.5 gen fighter. If you're comparing them because of the canard configuration, the Flyer I was also a canarded aircraft (and a pusher).

There is nothing of significance shared between the EF and the Shinden.
 
Visually or engineering wise? I can't really agree with either. The EF-2000 is pretty much the best thing at air to air that isn't a F-22.

IIRC in some dog fighting exercises the Typhoon was actually dead even or slightly better than the F-22, with the main disadvantage being the lack of stealthiness.
 
Saw two heavies in contrast from Korean Air in the same week...

Passenger Airbus A380 in take-off at JFK:
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Cargo Boeing 747 landing at ATL:
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IIRC in some dog fighting exercises the Typhoon was actually dead even or slightly better than the F-22, with the main disadvantage being the lack of stealthiness.
Without stealth, getting to the dogfight could prove tricky. You also need to consider that exercises can involve handicaps, it's hard to get the meaning of the outcome without knowing the rules for the particular exercise.

Taking this another direction -

Finally got to fly one of these for the first time last weekend.

Very nice, for now I can only fly on the computer, though I might get into scale model flying at some point. I'm not sure if I'm ready to for a pilot's license just yet.
 
IIRC in some dog fighting exercises the Typhoon was actually dead even or slightly better than the F-22, with the main disadvantage being the lack of stealthiness.

Yeah it's always a good idea for any aviation buff to follow the red flag missions like the one you are actually talking about. Also 4 and 4.5 jets aren't better than the 5th gens, at least not to my knowledge the F-35. And what @Exorcet said is right they don't give the full details of these tests and it doesn't help that the Air Force didn't want to comment on it. Either way even if it is out right better than the 22, the F-18 E/F to me is still a great competitor.
 
I don't really see the Eurofighter being that amazing. It is basically a modernised version of this designed in 1945 in my eyes.
How do you figure? What do they have in common, aside from single pilot single pusher engine (with different types of engine, yet) canard? Features also shared with the Wright Flyer. as @Exorcet points out.
The J7W was expected to be one of the best according to tests as well. The EF had 50 years to improve the design.
You know, there's a pretty long list of aircraft that were "expected to be one of the best" but didn't pan out so well. I'm not seeing anything particularly exciting in its specs, compared to its contemporaries. Quite the opposite, in fact.
 

That's very cool. I've seen some -35's flying around here, they've come into Tyndall a few times, and Eglin was one of the main (if not THE main) test sites.

And the ONE TIME a P-38 was flying at an air show here I was out of town for work. I've never seen one in person, and this HAS TO HAPPEN before I die!!!
 
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