Update 1.15 now available

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Suzuki-Cara
He's promoted enough in the game to be an AI driver.

Don't know how high that could be realistically on someone's scale, but he essentially "made it" in my book. :sly:
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I got no problem with these guys all being made into AI drivers etc, I think that's cool for them.

But when someone claims he's the face of the franchise, that's not only ridiculous, but the classic fanbase thirsting & putting these guys on pedestals.

These guys were in nappies when GT was in it's golden age with Gt3/Gt4 & people actually believe more than 10 people are buying the game because they're in it, not including their family. :lol::lol:

I'd be willing to bet anyone, that more people bought this game because Trial Mountain was making a comeback, than the amount of people who bought the game because a specific eSports person was playing it.

That's enough forums for one day, god.
 
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GOTMAXPOWER
As general advice I would suggest to not take seriously 'reviews' from people who are getting money from sales, those with referral links are not reviewers but salespeople on commission.
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Yeah I thought the likes of Kie and Super GT might have been a bit more honest about it as they aren't usually afraid to voice their concerns, but they were definitely looking after their own interests with giving it such a high score. In saying that, I still thought there was going to be something "wrong" with the game and I went into it expecting to be let down again. Didn't think it would be this bad though.
 
LSFDRX
This is literally something many of us have been wanting since day one. Having to go back all the way out then go back in was annoying.

This comment right here is proof positive that no matter what they do, PD will always have people lining up to complain about the changes they make.

And "unsalvageable"? Ha ha, guess you'll get lumped in with the rest of the binary thinkers that think anything less than perfect means it's nothing. I'm glad I can see nuance, life would be terrible if I only thought of things as all or nothing.

I had a ton of fun racing around in cars with less than 100hp and more than 600hp today. It was a blast, and everything this game is supposed to be. Isn't it crazy that even though the game has issues, some of us can still see past these minor things to have fun with the things the game does right? You know, driving cars.

This is completely backwards. If it weren't GT there would be zero expectations and people would be head over heels for it being such a comprehensive and amazing new car game. It's the reputation of GT that they're up against and why so many in here go out of their way to justify being so mad about minor issues with a game that's ultimately still amazing. Nostalgia has a price.
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That's an interesting viewpoint, perhaps I'm trying to be objective but allowing my own disappointment to influence my opinion.
 
dacc10
Let's be honest, reviews are thrown in very prematurely. You don't review a movie based on the first 15 minutes. You don't rate the food based just on the rice. Why would people rate a game based on a very limited time playing it?

GT7 had a decent launch, for modern standards atleast. PD messed up afterwards, with their decisions, and as time went by, the main issues this game has, started popping out left and right. All this stuff can't be foreseen by the reviews.


Assuming you got all the settings exactly the same, why would they nerf custom races payouts? They should increase, not decrease!
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Where do people get these analogies from 😂 Nothing like a movie or food buddy. It's a game and it's all there to see immediately. Hours were played of the game and it had an actual physics bug that people who reviewed it experienced which eas then fixed but the reviewers in question still gave ot a high score even with a fundamental bug, which they thought wasn't really a bug and were just willing to accept it as "this is the way the game is".
 
The multiplayer lobby system literally SCREAMS an option to do some DAMN PRESETS. I'm sick of wasting my time to choose every DAMN TIME the lobby's options, this is getting tedious beyond any limit. Such a simple thing to do, but dev team looks like they don't care. I'ts the minimum to make lobby at least, bearable.
 
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NikNakTobasco
Kind of given up on lobbies as nearly every time I join one the race has already started.
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That's the minimum, to make lobby at least bearable.....maybe we could bomb with emails PD headquarters or support ? it's so frustrating, looks like they are not even interested to fix these QoL improvements. Multiplayer system looks robbed by a generic early 2000s game, i'm speechless, we are talking about GT7 here....:irked:
 
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The last few additions I would like are improved lobbies and a B-Spec mode using Sophy ai. I'm satisfied with my money spent otherwise.
 
RavenR
They play video games for a living better than most people that's it. Rest assured that 90% of the playerbase do not know who these people are, do not care in the slightest & are more concerned with their own lives than some kids playing video games for money.

Last time I checked, eSports players make up less than 5% of this games playerbase... their concerns are not more weighty than anyone elses, & certainly not over the concerns of the other 95% of the playerbase that are the actual reason this game exists. Without that 95% this franchise wouldn't still be a thing, eSports players are equivalent to streamers, a tiny subset of unimportant but skilled players that do not represent the majority of the playerbase.
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RavenR
These guys were in nappies when GT was in it's golden age
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We're not kids. You literally have to be 18+ to qualify for the championships. I'm not sure any of us play for a living. It doesn't pay any money so stop talking out your rear.

We are in direct contact with PDI to give feedback and report errors. Some of us are life long GT fans from the start of the franchise and despite there only being a handful of us, we are representative of the biggest fans of this great franchise.
 
Adam41
We're not kids. You literally have to be 18+ to qualify for the championships. I'm not sure any of us play for a living. It doesn't pay any money so stop talking out your rear.

We are in direct contact with PDI to give feedback and report errors. Some of us are life long GT fans from the start of the franchise and despite there only being a handful of us, we are representative of the biggest fans of this great franchise.
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Clearly you can't count either, because I said in two posts already when GT was in it's golden age (GT3-GT4) which was at a minimum 17 years ago... If you were in nappies between 17 & 22 years ago then you'd be at a minimum 18 years old right now to possibly 24.

So if you're between those ages right now, you are a kid to me.

As for being in direct contact with PD, they clearly don't listen to you, or your collective suggestions are god awful. Because if the things you were suggesting were good for the community we would have seen basic alterations like host migration for custom lobbies, saved lobby settings, lobby changes once they're launched & many more pretty basic & fundamental changes already.

Clearly you're overvaluing your contributions, much like many on this forum. My point still stands, you guys represent a small subset of the overall playerbase of this game. The majority of this player base was playing this game before eSports was even a thing, when you were still drinking warm milk at night to help you sleep.

The fact you don't understand basic math makes me think you should've spent less time playing video games & more time concentrating in school kiddo.
 
RavenR
Clearly you can't count either, because I said in two posts already when GT was in it's golden age (GT3-GT4) which was at a minimum 17 years ago... If you were in nappies between 17 & 22 years ago then you'd be at a minimum 18 years old right now to possibly 24.

So if you're between those ages right now, you are a kid to me.

As for being in direct contact with PD, they clearly don't listen to you, or your collective suggestions are god awful. Because if the things you were suggesting were good for the community we would have seen basic alterations like host migration for custom lobbies, saved lobby settings, lobby changes once they're launched & many more pretty basic & fundamental changes already.

Clearly you're overvaluing your contributions, much like many on this forum. My point still stands, you guys represent a small subset of the overall playerbase of this game. The majority of this player base was playing this game before eSports was even a thing, when you were still drinking warm milk at night to help you sleep.

The fact you don't understand basic math makes me think you should've spent less time playing video games & more time concentrating in school kiddo.
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I've got a degree and career in finance yet I can't count. Brilliant.

You missed the bit where I said some of us have been fans since the beginning, that includes me. That was more than 24 years ago. Seems I'm not the one who can't do basic math.

We always make suggestions and have done since the live events started in 2018 and those include the ones you listed. Whether PD incorporate them is not our fault, they don't just do what we say. A bit like when I said to stop talking out your rear.

I wouldn't say we overvalue our contributions, I'm just defending the time and effort we personally put in to try and improve the game from a bigot who wrongly undervalues our contribution for what seems to be for no other reason than being possibly older than us.

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Back on topic, tried playing again today with the new FFB by increasing the torque to 8 from my usual 3 and there's definitely less information coming from the wheel and it doesn't seem to me at least just a reduction in strength.
 
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Jewel Runner
Where do people get these analogies from 😂 Nothing like a movie or food buddy. It's a game and it's all there to see immediately. Hours were played of the game and it had an actual physics bug that people who reviewed it experienced which eas then fixed but the reviewers in question still gave ot a high score even with a fundamental bug, which they thought wasn't really a bug and were just willing to accept it as "this is the way the game is".
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Well, no. In a game stuff isn't there "immediately to see". Any game with any sort of progression system, will have content that is not accessible right away. There are plenty of games that are smooth in the first hours, and later the bugs appear. Pretty sure I saw Dying Light 2 players complain about the game being "smooth" in the beginning, and getting worse in later stages.

And even ignoring progression altogether, you can take car sounds for example, no one can judge the entirity of the car sounds in the game, based on a very limited set of cars. Specially if those cars are ones that inherently sound bad.

Having a bug, won't affect that much the score reviewers give. If it did, then Fallout 3 and New Vegas wouldn't get 8 and 9 out of 10, as both games were full of bugs.
 
Adam41
We are in direct contact with PDI to give feedback and report errors. ... we are representative of the biggest fans of this great franchise.
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So it's all YOUR fault??

Seriously though, how do you know you're representative of the biggest fans of this great franchise
 
HyperSpeeder
In fact the reason why GT7 exists and wasn't just a large update to GT Sport is due to GT Sport's status as an e-sports game.
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GT7 exists because of PS5 and the normal release schedule of GT.

So, are you suggesting they won't use GT7 for esports? That's an interesting position to take.

Let's see how this game fares a year from now. Participation seems WAY less than any GT. Maybe it's the vocal minority who loves the tedious single player that have won this round.

I don't understand how anyone can like it, but to each his own.
 
Voodoovaj
GT7 exists because of PS5 and the normal release schedule of GT.

So, are you suggesting they won't use GT7 for esports? That's an interesting position to take.

Let's see how this game fares a year from now. Participation seems WAY less than any GT. Maybe it's the vocal minority who loves the tedious single player that have won this round.

I don't understand how anyone can like it, but to each his own.
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I’m sure PD will support the e-sports portion of the game and try to get on top of things. But in the general scheme of things GT Sport was considered a misstep. Even though it did many of the fundamentals right. Abandoning the single-player majority was heavily criticised. Hence the hastily updated single-player events.
 
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They're supporting GT7 in the exact same way as GTS, focusing on the online tournaments and throwing a bone to single player. Only slight difference is GT7 already started with a bit of single player. But otherwise I'm not seeing any change of focus. They didn't announce any big single player championships did they?
 
To be honest, I think it's a bit of a problem that only the GT esports players have an avenue to give feedback to PD.

I am not saying that the entire player base should have the contact details of specific PD staff. But there should, at very least, be an easy mechanism for any players to submit some form of feedback or report issues. Most online games or software services have this, but not PD.

As an example;
I had a query when I signed up for an iRacing account, so logged a ticket in their system. I received an email reply from Customer Service with a complete explanation within three days.

With Polyphony, as far as I can tell, there is no mechanism for any players to either submit feedback or log a ticket. If you dig deep enough on the GT website you will find a link where they direct you to the Playstation website for any issues... And on the Playstation website, you can only search and log issues about Playstation (not game) errors.

Something like this (for GTA online) would be more than enough:
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Nathan88
I’m sure PD will support the e-sports portion of the game and try to get on top of things. But in the general scheme of things GT Sport was considered a misstep. Even though it did many of the fundamentals right. Abandoning the single-player majority was heavily criticised. Hence the hastily updated single-player events.
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10 million seller misstep? It sold in the millions for over 4 years.

Gt6 sold less than 3 million in the four years that it was out.

Gt7's single player is almost identical to GTS. Remove the menu book guidance to the events, and it's the same. So, you believe that they took five years to do single player well and then just tossed the GTS single player at it?

I am in utter disbelief than anyone supports this single player experience. It has the stench of automation to it. Like it was scripted over a weekend... "Umm ok, a Sunday Cup, a couple 600 events...make then region centric ok, like European cars in Europe, Asain cars in Asia, that kind of stuff....ya, and just the same old start the player in the back or the middle."

This single player is hot garbage. If this is what's driving sales, then this is the last Gran Turismo I will ever buy.
 
The online racing side is also completely messed up so it’s not like they’re ignoring SP and making an amazing Spout mode. The whole game is utterly compromised and the latest destruction of FFB affects all types of players.
 
Voodoovaj
Maybe it's the vocal minority who loves the tedious single player that have won this round.
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This specific vocal minority is one of the strangest/funniest parts of reading this forum to me. The majority of people here seem to be under the impression that playing a single player game regularly for like a year straight is a normal thing that more than 0.1% of people do.


People buy games and don't even play them. All the time. GT sport had a trophy for driving 100km, which should be less than an hour of play time, and only 59% of players have it. 41% of people who bought the game didn't even play it for an hour! And this is the common across all games.

Those who do actually play the game they bought will play the single player for a week or two. Maybe a couple months if it's long and they really enjoy it. Then they move to online (if the game has one) or they move on to a different game.


This idea that GT7 having "only" a 25 hour single player means that the series is doomed and PD is gonna just give up on it and ghost us is... laughably ridiculous. You know what other games had a similar single player length? God of War. Spiderman Miles Morales. The Last of Us Part 2. Grand Theft Auto V. It's a real who's who of unsuccessful video games 🙄


Now am I saying that GT7's single player is anywhere as good as those? Of course not. But "it's too short" is not in the top 10 list of the reasons why. In an alternate timeline where this game released with 400 hours of single player content, the difference in active player count today between that timeline and our reality would be a rounding error.


To be absolutely clear, none of that is in any way an excuse or a justification or a defense of PD. There are a plethora of issues with this game, not least of which are the many very strange decisions that PD made with the single player. It's also not to disparage people who enjoy single player. I like it too, especially license tests and missions, and I have thousands of hours in single player going back to GT3. It's just weird to me to see people say things like "only a small fraction of players care about sport mode and esports stuff" and then turn around and act like 90% of the people who bought this game want to spend the next 3 years playing through 300 hours of AI races and collecting every single car in the game. It's very much a pot-kettle-black situation that's extremely widespread around here.
 
gran turismo 7 1.13 to 1.15 version update

Gran Turismo 7 - Rain Effects Before and After Update 1.15 [PS4 PRO]

0:00 - Intro
0:04 - Nordschleife
2:43 - Fuji International Speedway
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gran turismo 7 1.13 to 1.15 version update

Gran Turismo 7 - Rain Effects Before and After Update 1.15 [PS4 PRO]

0:00 - Intro
0:04 - Nordschleife
2:43 - Fuji International Speedway
4:04 - Suzuka Circuit
6:38 - Outro

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I seriously thought I was seeing things with the mist during the heavier parts of Rain. :lol:
 

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