2011 Brazilian Grand Prix

Justin
It's actually passed both the NBA and NHL in attendance.


Hopefully the battle for 2nd is interesting tomorrow, at least I can sleep in a little.👍
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Not hard to beat a series that's going through a lockout. [/didn't read article] :lol:

But seriously... even though it's hard to compare apples-to-apples, since it's indoor versus outdoor, that's a good sign that American soccer is healthy. Still... considering NFL numbers show the sheer numbers of bodies you can pack into the stands, it has a long way to go.

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Bummed I missed qualifying... set my alarm to wake me up after midnight, but I guess I woke up too late.

Gah... another race at an ungodly hour before the first working day of the week.

Gah... the last race at an ungodly hour before the first working day of the week. I hope it's a good one.
 
niky
Not hard to beat a series that's going through a lockout. [/didn't read article] :lol:

But seriously... even though it's hard to compare apples-to-apples, since it's indoor versus outdoor, that's a good sign that American soccer is healthy. Still... considering NFL numbers show the sheer numbers of bodies you can pack into the stands, it has a long way to go.
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Most MLS teams play in soccer specific stadiums that fit on average 20,000 people, which is about the same capacity as most NBA/NHL arenas.

Gah... another race at an ungodly hour before the first working day of the week.

Gah... the last race at an ungodly hour before the first working day of the week. I hope it's a good one.
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Yay, a race at a decent time(10am for me).:)
 
Still the question: Build em' bigger... will they come? I'm really hopeful for success... it's strange that the most popular ball sport in the world has taken so long to grab a foothold in the US.

Justin
Yay, a race at a decent time(10am for me).:)
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Booooooooooooo....
 
I'm really excited to see how Webber and Button do tomorrow, often seen as the second drivers, they were impressive today. With the weather changes I really think Vettel is not going to win. :dopey:
 
chromatic9
I'm really excited to see how Webber and Button do tomorrow, often seen as the second drivers, they were impressive today. With the weather changes I really think Vettel is not going to win. :dopey:
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They are fighting for 2nd place as second drivers :sly:. I think if it is damp conditions then, McLaren will probably be faster than Red Bull. If it is in the dry and Vettel gets his 1 second lead before DRS is allowed, then he will most likely win with others fighting over each. It will be interesting to see how McLaren tyres hold up and if they can fend off the Ferrari's and potentially beat the Red Bull's. Only the Virgin cars were slower than Red Bull in top speed so another thing to see if it hinders them or if it is an advantage. If anyone can get past Sebastian at the start and keep the lead for the 1st lap, this should be a very interesting race regarding the battle for a win.
 
Little video on the BBC, shows Ross Brawn (BBC Mirco/Acorn FTW) and Christian Horner many years ago.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/15904815.stm

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Didn't bother getting up for quali, and from the results I made the right move. Nice to see Bruno in 9th and Rosberg breaking into the 6 again though.
 
RTSolvalou
Didn't bother getting up for quali, and from the results I made the right move. Nice to see Bruno in 9th and Rosberg breaking into the 6 again though.
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I was expecting Rosberg to be further up the grid after his impressive lap in Q2.
 
The race is right after midnight, lucky I don't have anything on Monday...

I'm all up for the battle for 2nd place in the championship. Looks like Button is pretty strong but maybe too early. Webber is on the move as well but afraid he's a little behind.
 
I have to record it then transfer it to my touchpad so I can watch it at work when the boss is not looking.
 
tibiquera
Good to see the local drivers doing well. Rubens and Bruno both got some very respectful places. Shame about Massa, though.
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*whump* kerb *whump-whump* sliiiiiiide...

Granted Alonso is completely outperforming the car, but really... it's just ridiculous at this point. Massa is a better driver than this, and hopefully he can get his head back together this off-season...
 
astrosdude91
Sebastian Vettel: Greatest qualifier in Formula One history.
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I have an epic quote for you, my friend.

mario
I'd caveat that with the conditions that we are currently seeing his performances under a particular set of technical regulations coupled to a particular qualifying format and memories that are somewhat biased towards more recent events (which is part of human nature).

Weighing things up, if you were to go back, say, five to ten years and ask the question "Who is the best qualifying driver on the grid?", you'd probably be pointed towards somebody like Jarno Trulli (especially in the wake of his front row grid slot for Jordan in Monaco back in 2000), yet these days Heikki has easily had the measure of Jarno when it comes to qualifying. Similarly, if you were to go back to, say, 2003-2006, others might point you towards Mark Webber during his days with Jaguar, and also Williams to a certain extent, when many felt that his qualifying performances flattered the car, such as when he qualified 3rd at the 2003 Hungarian GP in the Jaguar R4, or qualifying in 2nd place in the 2004 Malaysian GP in the R5.

Vettel has certainly performed extremely well throughout qualifying this year with pole position after pole position, but on the other hand it should be borne in mind that qualifying performances are somewhat relative. For example, the F150th is know to perform relatively poorly over a single lap, and development on the car more or less stopped in Hungary - so, would you say that Alonso has not performed well in qualifying today, given that he is only in 5th place, or would you say that his performance today was excellent because he is close to Webber (within 0.2s), considering that Red Bull have continued developing their car for much longer (even though they have won both titles they are still introducing updates for the RB7, like a slightly revised front wing for the Indian GP).
How exactly do you judge that Vettel is, singularly amongst the drivers on the grid right now, doing the best job possible considering the relative form of the cars on the grid? Are Vettel's pole positions, for example, comparable to Heikki managing to pressure the tail end of the midfield for 17th at times this season in qualifying, considering that Heikki is driving for a team on a fraction of the budget of Red Bull?

Go further back in time still, and there are other instances of drivers who also stood out in qualifying, and arguably to an even greater extent that Vettel does now, such as Jim Clark, Fangio or Moss, all of whom at times would utterly dominate in qualifying or manage to put a car far further up the grid than many would have expected it to be. Right now, it is true that Vettel is doing very well in qualifying, but that is by no means assured over the full length of his career. Give it another, say, five years, and we could all be hailing another driver currently further down the grid, or currently still in a junior series, as the greatest qualifying driver the sport has seen - so, for now, I'd hold fire on declaring Vettel the greatest driver in qualifying in F1 history for now.
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Peter.
I have an epic quote for you, my friend.
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Just sounds like another "it's the car" argument. I still stand by my statement.

Maybe not, I just skimmed through it. But regardless, I still think he's the best qualifier in F1 history. Feel free to think otherwise.
 
astrosdude91
Just sounds like another "it's the car" argument. I still stand by my statement.

Maybe not, I just skimmed through it. But regardless, I still think he's the best qualifier in F1 history. Feel free to think otherwise.
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No offense, but that's no surprise that you would say that.
 
I'll do some weather update here... According to the Tweets there's no rain falling but the clouds are all over the circuit. The heavy downpour is expected at about 13:00 local time. A strong wind at 10km/h or more is also expected.
 
astrosdude91
Just sounds like another "it's the car" argument. I still stand by my statement.

Maybe not, I just skimmed through it. But regardless, I still think he's the best qualifier in F1 history. Feel free to think otherwise.
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Not quite the best, that's Nigel Mansell, but he's the best at qualifying on the grid today, followed somewhat closely by Hamilton and everyone else is quite a bit behind. Me personally, I was more impressed by his Suzuka pole than his record. Why? Because it proves his capability in qualifying, it was obvious that he probably wouldn't win the race as he didn't have the best car for the job, and Hamilton still probably would have taken the pole if he got the chance at a flying lap, but you can see how much he had to push to beat Button on the lap.

 
InvincibleM5
I'll do some weather update here... According to the Tweets there's no rain falling but the clouds are all over the circuit. The heavy downpour is expected at about 13:00 local time. A strong wind at 10km/h or more is also expected.
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Lets hope the weather will change during the race and we get some unexpected results today!!...

I would love to see Shumi get on the podium and Massa to win in front of his home crowd...Than if Senna does well also,we'll see some great emotions over there... :)



spy.
 
akmuq
Not quite the best, that's Nigel Mansell, but he's the best at qualifying on the grid today, followed somewhat closely by Hamilton and everyone else is quite a bit behind. Me personally, I was more impressed by his Suzuka pole than his record. Why? Because it proves his capability in qualifying, it was obvious that he probably wouldn't win the race as he didn't have the best car for the job, and Hamilton still probably would have taken the pole if he got the chance at a flying lap, but you can see how much he had to push to beat Button on the lap.

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Agree. Hamilton should've gotten that pole if he and McLaren didn't screw up.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Ayrton Senna when it comes to great qualifiers...
 
I've spoken to a dad of a mate who is working for Lotus, it's hot and overcast.
 

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