Forza Motorsport 5 |OT| Where dreams are Realised
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Given that a lot of the point of simulation is to drive cars that people want to, and a lot of historic cars that people want to drive have H-patterns, I wouldn't hold your breath for this.
Yes, there is and has always been cheaper wheels without H-patterns. But I wouldn't expect it to stop becoming an option any time soon.
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That's right! Now THAT sir, is a pretty major s*** sandwich!
Well, let's see here. I'm a consumer who suddenly wants to one day, get more out of this Forza experience one day. I also happen to be a consumer who's mad about cars from all eras. 90% of those cars have H shifters. And I also happen to be a hardcore racing and motorsport enthusiast, a real sucker for realism. Driving a 60s Camaro, and using the 458 wheel's paddles to shift gears?
No thanks, I'd rather use the standard controller. I wouldn't be surprised at all, if the 458 wheel gets overtaken by practically every other wheel out there (wheels having an H pattern shifter). Tonne of wheels and pedals out there, that have it all - full 900 deg rotation, paddle and H shifter, clutch. The works!
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Well, most importantly: Is Xbox One support worth paying that much for a wheel that comes without a clutch and an H-gate (or even a sequential shifter)? I mean, you can get a nice Fanatec for that much which does have a clutch, which does have an H-shifter, which does have a sequential shifter - and I doubt that that Thrustmaster 458 Italia wheel will be of higher quality.
Meh. I still want to punch MS in the face for switching their XID standard up again. Couldn't they have employed some other desperate move to block standard 360 controllers from working so they can sell more peripherals? I mean, yeah, they likely don't give a damn about the few wheels not being compatible, but still.
Meh. I still want to punch MS in the face for switching their XID standard up again. Couldn't they have employed some other desperate move to block standard 360 controllers from working so they can sell more peripherals? I mean, yeah, they likely don't give a damn about the few wheels not being compatible, but still.
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Speaking of wheels I'm wondering that sense these next generation consoles are becoming less and less like consoles and more like PC's, then perhaps we could use the USB and put the wheel into PC mode. See for the USB's to work on the Xbox One they have to use HID protocol correct? That's why you're able to use the wheel on PS3 with PC mode on (At least surfing menus works) because it uses the same HID function as the PS3. Perhaps we could use the USB to connect to the Xbox One through PC mode?
Fanatec and Microsoft could come to a deal to release a firmware/driver update to Xbox wheels to be able to play on Xbox One this way. I think it's a good compromise.
Fanatec and Microsoft could come to a deal to release a firmware/driver update to Xbox wheels to be able to play on Xbox One this way. I think it's a good compromise.
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Worth a mention: for those who might be attending FanExpo in Toronto this weekend, I've just been informed by my girlfriend there's a playable demo of FM5 there. PS4's present too, though I don't know how hands on.
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Man, seeing comparisons of FM5 and Driveclub makes me want to vomit.
Forza 5 is ment to be played and will be played mostly with a controller, the only other options will be an overpriced midlle to low range steering wheels without a cluth and manual gears and I am sure the ffb will be inferior to any pc sim. Come on what is all the hipe about and I don't belive a single world abot realism and tyre simulation that comes from Dan Greenawalt's mouth.
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As far as the new physics, control and audio is concerned, we'll just have to wait for a review. At times, even demos don't do justice to the final product.
I honestly haven't felt the need for a steering wheel/pedals, ever. When I do feel like it, I go out and drive!
FM5 may be super-realistic, but it is still a title on a DVD, and I want to be able to kick back for a few hours and enjoy it as a game. If I do get a wheel, I know I'll be spending roughly 80% of my day on that. And probably driving hardly 5% of the day in my actual car. The space it takes up in your room is another factor.
Anyhoo, I guess I'm not *hardcore enough* to invest in a wheel. Although I have had a raw love for driving sims for over 2 decades now. Playing with a controller is a matter of tapping into your senses, understanding how the game's control works. And trying your best to mimic actual movements. Yes, it is possible with triggers and an analog stick. So long as you keep at it, and hone your moves with patience and consistent practice.
Cheers then!
I honestly haven't felt the need for a steering wheel/pedals, ever. When I do feel like it, I go out and drive!
FM5 may be super-realistic, but it is still a title on a DVD, and I want to be able to kick back for a few hours and enjoy it as a game. If I do get a wheel, I know I'll be spending roughly 80% of my day on that. And probably driving hardly 5% of the day in my actual car. The space it takes up in your room is another factor.
Anyhoo, I guess I'm not *hardcore enough* to invest in a wheel. Although I have had a raw love for driving sims for over 2 decades now. Playing with a controller is a matter of tapping into your senses, understanding how the game's control works. And trying your best to mimic actual movements. Yes, it is possible with triggers and an analog stick. So long as you keep at it, and hone your moves with patience and consistent practice.
Cheers then!
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For the same reason some spend $1000+ for wheels and accessories that can only be used on PC, because they want to?
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=127362
Hence it's a false statement. FFB is fine in forza, it just isn't the best. Same could be said of many a game, especially those forced to use XID which many are not.
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A word on FFB:
Look at it this way - if you're not really sitting in an industry grade simulator, where you get a fully simulated seat attempting to relay inertia and g forces, why on earth is FFB on a wheel so important to you?
The standard controller rocks. Dishing out cash on a wheel that's as expensive as the console itself or more.... no thank you George!
Look at it this way - if you're not really sitting in an industry grade simulator, where you get a fully simulated seat attempting to relay inertia and g forces, why on earth is FFB on a wheel so important to you?
The standard controller rocks. Dishing out cash on a wheel that's as expensive as the console itself or more.... no thank you George!
Thanks, that is what I meant, there is no point in soficticated tyre model and physics engine if the game controlls are coded for a hand controller, you will not feel much difference anyway. And no racing game should be developed for a hand conroller ever, this is a joke, Dan Greenawalt is a joke if he turned to Calspan for physics and his company will not be able to code and provide a proper controller for their racing simulation. If T10 are serious about cars they should have developed their own ffb wheels from the begining. Steering and brake feel is everything in a car and every car has it's own specifics, FFB and wheel control are the most important aspects of a racing simulation they are the only physical link between you and the virtual physics.
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This is BS. As if the game can't be coded for both controllers and FFB at the same time. I guess you've never played any mainstream PC simulation? Most have mouse steering. I bet you can't name a simulation aside from any commercial grade simulators that ONLY allow wheels as an input device.
A well coded physics engine will react in the same way regardless of the input device.
Which game studios actually develops their own wheels by the way? If you say PD because they slapped a GT logo on two brands of wheels I will laugh out loud.
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Didn't PD sponsored one of those brands is why they have the GT logo on them? I doubt they've created it...
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