GP of Brazil 2007

[Appie]

Power Rangers Force India F1 anyone?

👍

 

[Sureboss]

thx for the hamilton.. ruined kimi´s lap totally.

He really didn't.

I think F1 having an 'Indian' team will be great for the sport, tapping into another huge country which is having a huge economic turn. ITV should be happy too.

 

[m7ammed]

W But really, that is got to be very racist doesn't it? Can only think for himself and his country, and the rumor of having 2 Indian drivers, pff.....

I never knew that loving your country is being raciest? so are British people racist for supporting a driver because he is British? are Spanish people racist for supporting Alonso? is it raciest if I support Saudi Arabia in the world cup?

 

[Metar]

Am I racist for not wanting Israeli sports-guys to succeed?

Really, Force India is the worst name ever.

Now, following the earlier thoughts about Team Orange India, if they sign Apple as a title-sponsor, it'd go Team Apple-Orange-India.

 

[Muzaffar]

I never knew that loving your country is being raciest? so are British people racist for supporting a driver because he is British? are Spanish people racist for supporting Alonso? is it raciest if I support Saudi Arabia in the world cup?

Okay, i might be saying it wrongly. Well i mean why did he have the name India on his team? Well i never see any other team have a name of their country.If he wanted to make his team look like a national team, then i suggest he move to A1GP. At least he can support his country there.....

[/SARCASM]

 

[Alex.]

NO, but did you ever hear of the time when the british police force rejected officer applicant because they were white?

It just isnt fair to pick only drivers from your country, when there are other drivers from other countries who rightfully deserve a seat more than the best Indian drivers.

 

[daan]

thx for the hamilton.. ruined kimi´s lap totally.

Hamilton moved over to give Kimi his normal racing line into the corner. The fact that Kimi ran wide was nothing to do with Hamilton.

NO, but did you ever hear of the time when the british police force rejected officer applicant because they were white?

That's a completely different situation.

It just isnt fair to pick only drivers from your country, when there are other drivers from other countries who rightfully deserve a seat more than the best Indian drivers.

Its his team. He can pick whoever he likes.

 

[m7ammed]

NO, but did you ever hear of the time when the british police force rejected officer applicant because they were white?

It just isnt fair to pick only drivers from your country, when there are other drivers from other countries who rightfully deserve a seat more than the best Indian drivers.

have you ever thought how hard its is to get exposure in a country like India? to get drivers out from India is big thing motorsport over and this could only mean more people will get intersted in motorsport over which can only be good.

 

[Alex.]

and if there was a future world champion driver from papa new guinea?

 

[mipuumal]

Hamilton moved over to give Kimi his normal racing line into the corner. The fact that Kimi ran wide was nothing to do with Hamilton.

Hamilton clearly wanted to block Kimi during both of Kimi's fast laps.

He waited until the last possible moment to move over and slow down, on Kimi's first lap he lost time overtaking Hamilton because he lost downforce while going past him in the corner exit.

And in Kimi's second attempt Hamilton could've just let him past when he was exiting the pits, but instead he went up to the corner entry and forced Kimi to take a harsh line which caused him to loose grip. Very disturbing.

 

[Only_in_f1]

It just isnt fair to pick only drivers from your country, when there are other drivers from other countries who rightfully deserve a seat more than the best Indian drivers.

Its happend before.

Sato = Honda.

 

[Sureboss]

Hamilton clearly wanted to block Kimi during both of Kimi's fast laps.

He waited until the last possible moment to move over and slow down, on Kimi's first lap he lost time overtaking Hamilton because he lost downforce while going past him in the corner exit.

And in Kimi's second attempt Hamilton could've just let him past when he was exiting the pits, but instead he went up to the corner entry and forced Kimi to take a harsh line which caused him to loose grip. Very disturbing.

No if he clearly wanted to block Kimi he'd have parked the car and made a cup of tea and had some Crumpets.

If Lewis did anything which caused Kimi to lose grip or take a 'harsh line' then the stewards would be doing something, are they? Trying to find a dinosaur in a cobweb tbh.

 

[slidesquad#1]

It just isnt fair to pick only drivers from your country, when there are other drivers from other countries who rightfully deserve a seat more than the best Indian drivers.

Wait, what? How is that any different to drivers at Minardi etc. who paid for their seats with the sponsorship they came with? Or even now, come to think of it.

Why is it not fair for a team owner to pick who he wants, provided he they have the Super License and the required miles under their belt to be eligible to drive in F1?

 

[tigermoth737]

Its happend before.

Sato = Honda.

And Satoru Nakajima back in the late 80's and early 90's. He only got a seat because both Lotus and Tyrrell were using Honda engines.

As for this whole Indian team row, I dont really care who they hire, if they want to show the world the potential of Indian drivers then so be it. Wouldn't be any different to what Ligier used to do with French drivers.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

NO, but did you ever hear of the time when the british police force rejected officer applicant because they were white?

It just isnt fair to pick only drivers from your country, when there are other drivers from other countries who rightfully deserve a seat more than the best Indian drivers.

I doubt both drivers will be Indian. One might be for purely senimental reasons - Mallya's best bet would be to get Karthikeyan from Williams or sign that GP2 guy - but the other is likely to be whoever can pay the most for their drive. Besides, the FIA can suspend a Super Licence at any time, as they proved with Yuji Ide.

The whole point is that India offers an entirely new market for Formula One as it's one of the world's most-populated countries. An Indian team and an Indian driver will add weight to the potential for an Indian Grand prix (we know the deal's been signed, but this will accelerate it). It may not seem fair as there are other drivers who might be more "deserving", but often times they get superseded by the person who pays the most money for their seat.

But I do agree that the team name really needs some work ...

 

[darkfinal]

As far as I've heard in the Spanish media, while the team's full name will be Force India F1, it'll be referred as Force One, since the logo will be something like "Force 1ndia".

 

[CAMikaze]

As far as I've heard in the Spanish media, while the team's full name will be Force India F1, it'll be referred as Force One, since the logo will be something like "Force 1ndia".

Force 1ndia. Is that l337(leet) or what? Maybe not... ^^;

Anyways, it will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow in the race that I've dubbed as "Showdown Interlagos(The Showdown Between the Lakes)". They will be going off for their formation lap at "High Noon" where I live.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Force 1ndia. Is that l337(leet) or what? Maybe not... ^^;

You know it's bad when they go ahead and say ...

"I believe Force India F1 is a great name, which we worked on with Gr8 Industries."

FYI, this is F1, not CS, OK?

 

[turbomp301]

I think hamilton clearly made an impact on of both kimi's hot laps.

he didnt physically block him but i feel hamilton forced kimi to break his focus on the road.

If you watch hamiltons last lap in qualifying he had an open road and the way sector 2 is set up, I think thats a definite advantage.

I still dont understand why kimi did not do another lap as he crossed the line before the checkered on that lap.

 

[kikie]

Alonso is not going to make it. Hamilton will be the first rookie world champion.

 

[Alex.]

^^ the sensible answer

Kimi Raikkonen will be let past by massa, then if lewis attempts to pass massa he will take both of them out.

^^ the strange answer

Alonso is going to win the championship

^^ the unlikely answer

 

[Metar]

Kimi Raikkonen will be let past by massa, then if lewis attempts to pass massa he will take both of them out.

^^ the strange answer

Alonso is going to win the championship

^^ the unlikely answer

If the former happens, the second might be possible, assuming Massa's crash with Hamilton either takes them both out, or takes them out of contention for a podium.

 

[mipuumal]

No if he clearly wanted to block Kimi he'd have parked the car and made a cup of tea and had some Crumpets.

If Lewis did anything which caused Kimi to lose grip or take a 'harsh line' then the stewards would be doing something, are they? Trying to find a dinosaur in a cobweb tbh.

If Lewis had done that then it would've been too obvious, he wanted to make it look subtle. Kimi said that he lost atleast 3 tenths because of that.

Maybe next year he will be eligible for some penalties since the FIA seem to have given him immunity this year. 👎

From Autosport "the post-post quali pressconference"

Q: (Anne Giuntini - L'Equipe) For Lewis. For everybody it is evident that twice you disturbed Kimi. Is everything good to become a world champion?

LH: To be honest there is no reason for me to do anything to Kimi because if anything he can win...

(inaudible from the audience)

LH: Well, I came out of the pits and the guys said that, obviously, because Fernando was behind me and I could not hold him up in the pits... So I came out of the pit lane and they said you will come out close to Kimi and I came out and when you are at that sort of speed your mirrors are vibrating and so you cannot see too much and then I realised that he was very, very close and so I slowed down and I noticed I can't attack the corner like he was, so I backed out and he went past me.

Q: (Anne Giuntini - L'Equipe) ...You never showed him clearly that you would give him the track free?

LH: What do you want me to do? Put the indicator on?

Q: (Anne Giuntini - L'Equipe) You know exactly...

LH: I did the best job I could to get out of the way. And I did apologise to him if I did get in his way.

Q: (Anne Giuntini - L'Equipe) Is that what you call the best job?

LH: Yes.

Q: (Anne Giuntini - L'Equipe) As a sportsman?

LH: Yes, how are you at your job? Are you the best at your job? You have never made mistakes... No?

Q: (Anne Giuntini - L'Equipe) Sometimes...

LH: Oh really.

Q: (Ian Parkes - The Press Association) Lewis, just to clarify after the ridiculous exchange that you just had, do you feel that you did an absolutely honest job today and if you win the world title do you feel that you will do so honestly?

LH: Yes, I do. For sure I am going to be accused of something, but honestly I am here this weekend and I need to do a completely clean job and that means just getting up and doing a good job and not making mistakes and not being investigated for some things and that is what we are trying to do as a team and myself and if anything Kimi can win this and that would be good for us and obviously it would be good to beat him but I have most of all got to beat Fernando.

But I honestly came in afterwards and he mentioned that and I said I apologised if I got in your way but you know I honestly did not think he was that close behind me, so I was going to take the corner but I really would have screwed his lap, so I moved over and I stayed where I was and braked and I don't feel I have hindered his lap as I did get out of the way.

Q: (Anne Giuntini - L'Equipe) Let us continue the ridiculous exchange... Do you think you can do everything you want and then you just apologise - is that the way it works in Formula One?

LH: I'm not going to answer that.

Q: (inaudible)

LH: Not really, I just don't want to talk to you to be honest.

Haha, I like her style.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Hmmmm, some of those responses - the ones about "put my indicator on" and "have you ever made mistakes?" in particular - sound a little arrogant to me. Also, that last line about not wanting to talk to her is quite ride. That said, I'd have to listen to them in context so I could hear his tone and whatnot in order to be sure ...

 

[Venari]

Why do these guys feel they need to answer? Actually, I think his exchange as read here is quite amusing.

Bear in mind:

James Hunt would have said, "Yeah, so?" and lit up a Marlboro (and then quite possibly asked he if she was doing anything later.)

Ayrton would have just shrugged his shoulders.

Schumacher would have denied any wrongdoing completely.

 

[Alex.]

and Alonso would have blamed everyone else..

 

[Sphinx]

Haha, I like her style.

You missed a bit:

"Giuntini, who is married to Renault's head of engine track operations Denis Chevrier, was later seen in the paddock being berated by a rather angry McLaren boss Ron Dennis as well as Hamilton's father Anthony."

http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/63509

 

[miss_schu]

I haven't watched much of the F1 races this season, thanks pay per view! But I have been following it by way of the news and the paper and talking to mates! I am hoping that Kimi wins the championship this year! Will soon see =) Good luck Kimi!

 

[Car-less]

I blame Ron!
He invited the FIA to send in the 'observer', something that Alonso is against as it means that he has to behave like an adult and stop bullying the rest of the team, or risk losing his licence.
The presence of the 'observer' caused Hamilton to be rushed out of the pits into Kimi's way so that he wouldn't be seen to be blocking Alonso. Hamilton tried his Rookie best to keep out of the way but as always, some anti Hamilton people started suggesting otherwise.

[/ridiculous pro Hamilton theory]

[goes off in search of a 'big joke' smilie]

 

[m7ammed]

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=41128

Lewis Hamilton escaped sanction after a controversial end to qualifying when the Ferrari team felt that the McLaren driver had disturbed Kimi Raikkonen’s final Q3 flying lap.

Hamilton emerged from the pits following his last tyre change just as Raikkonen was powering onto the back straight in the midst of his last hot lap.

The McLaren driver looked as if he might impede Raikkonen’s entry to turn four, but saw him in time and stayed on the inside, giving Kimi the racing line into the corner.

The Finn then got a little out of shape in turn four and went on to qualify behind Ferrari team-mate Felipe Massa and Hamilton.

In light of the 10-place grid penalty imposed on Fernando Alonso at Monza last year for impeding Massa – when the Ferrari driver was never closer than 93 metres to the Spaniard’s Renault approaching the Parabolica corner – there seemed every possibility that Hamilton could find himself sweating on a third stewards’ enquiry within a fortnight.

Ferrari brought the matter to the attention of race director Charlie Whiting but, on being told that Hamilton had no case to answer, saw no point in lodging a protest.

Hamilton apologised to Raikkonen after the session but insisted he had done his best to stay out of the way.

“I came out and, obviously, you have to keep to the left of the white [blend] line,” he related.

“The team came on the radio and said that I should be coming out pretty close to Kimi.

“The speed I was doing, with the mirrors vibrating, I couldn’t really see if he was there and at the time I first looked he wasn’t.

“I thought I would stay where I was because he might have been there and we might have crashed, so I just stayed on the inside and waited for him to appear.

“He did, and so I had to brake and bale out otherwise I would have impeded him if I had taken the corner.”

Raikkonen, asked whether Hamilton’s car had been a distraction and a factor in him losing time in the second sector of the lap, said: “For sure it didn’t help...”

McLaren team boss Ron Dennis said: “There wasn’t actually an incident. I think we were very aware Kimi was on a quick lap.

“Lewis can’t have impeded him because that was Kimi’s fastest mid sector time and on the second run he was overall quicker than on his first run.

“I don’t think the data supports there being any impediment.”

There was then an extraordinary exchange between Hamilton and the correspondent of French newspaper L’Equipe, when Lewis was asked whether he thought he could do whatever he liked so long as he apologised.

The journalist, Anne Giuntini, said to Hamilton: “You never showed him clearly that you would give him the track free.”

To which Lewis countered: “What do you want me to do, put the indicator on?”

“You know exactly...” said Giuntini.

“I did the best job I could to get out of the way,” Hamilton insisted. “And I did apologise to him if I did get in his way.”

Giuntini continued: “Is that what you call the best job?”

“Yes,” replied Hamilton.

“As a sportsman?” she persisted.

“Yes,” he retorted. “How are you at your job? Are you the best at your job? You have never made mistakes...no?”

Later on, the best line came from the Ferrari press officer as British journalists sought to file copy while interrupted by England’s disallowed try in the Rugby World Cup final, being screened in the Interlagos press room.

As the judges considered the TV footage, Ferrari’s Luca Colajanni piped up, with a wry smile on his face: “At least they investigated it...”

well if the bold part is true (and I'm sure it is or Ron wouldn't have said it) then Hamilton didn't block Kimi