GP of Brazil 2007

The presence of the 'observer' caused Hamilton to be rushed out of the pits into Kimi's way so that he wouldn't be seen to be blocking Alonso. Hamilton tried his Rookie best to keep out of the way but as always, some anti Hamilton people started suggesting otherwise.
When was the last time Alonso's outlap was his flying lap? Sure, they could have sent Hamilton out and told him to take the pit exit slowly so that Kimi wasn't blocked and even if Alonso was was coming out behind Hamilton, it wouldn't have much of an effect. I'm pretty sure Alonso isn't going to complain about having to take pit lane a little slower than usual and having his outlap suffer for it ...
 
When was the last time Alonso's outlap was his flying lap? Sure, they could have sent Hamilton out and told him to take the pit exit slowly so that Kimi wasn't blocked and even if Alonso was was coming out behind Hamilton, it wouldn't have much of an effect. I'm pretty sure Alonso isn't going to complain about having to take pit lane a little slower than usual and having his outlap suffer for it ...

Did you miss the last part of my post?

[/ridiculous pro Hamilton theory]

[goes off in search of a 'big joke' smilie]

I totally agree with you here. It was remiss of the team to put Hamilton back on the track right in front of Kimi, but perhaps they were paying too much attention to the 'observer' and trying to avoid a (reversed) repeat of Alonso's grid penalty for holding Hamilton up in the pits.

...but it does appear to be another unfounded reason to pick on Hamilton...

“Lewis can’t have impeded him because that was Kimi’s fastest mid sector time and on the second run he was overall quicker than on his first run.

“I don’t think the data supports there being any impediment.”
 
Ron Dennis
Lewis can’t have impeded him because that was Kimi’s fastest mid sector time and on the second run he was overall quicker than on his first run
Sorry Ron. How is it possible that we all forgot that it was his fastest sector time. Of course that means that he couldn't have driven it any faster. We apologize.

👎:irked:

It's just that the people in charge have realized the PR value of a coloured (call me racist, but I couldn't come up with a better politically correct adjective) British guy in a British car beating Ferrari as well as a double world champion and taking the trophy on his rookie year. Everything Hamilton does goes because it's good for the wallet of those people, the fact that it's not good for the sport means nothing here. Everybody sees what Hamilton and McLaren are doing but nothing can be done as the few ones with deciding power decide to close their eyes.

Remember when BAR had an underweight car a couple of years ago? The drivers had nothing to do with it, still they were banned from a few races. The explanation "Hamilton knew nothing about the spying and thus must not be punished" seems a bit odd in that light. Remember when Schumacher parked his car in the last corner in Monaco? He got punished. Hamilton getting away with the yesterday incident seems again a bit odd in that light.

This is very clear. Ferrari won too much in the past years, they aren't allowed to do it now because it would make F1 look boring. So everything possible is done to ensure someone else takes the trophy. We've seen that it takes pretty ground breaking things to achieve - illegally (and it has been proved) got information, a few quite distinctive rule interpretation exceptions, fishy things even inside the McLaren team - but in the end the rich guys seem to get what they want.
 
Sorry Ron. How is it possible that we all forgot that it was his fastest sector time. Of course that means that he couldn't have driven it any faster. We apologize.

👎:irked:

It's just that the people in charge have realized the PR value of a coloured (call me racist, but I couldn't come up with a better politically correct adjective) British guy in a British car beating Ferrari as well as a double world champion and taking the trophy on his rookie year. Everything Hamilton does goes because it's good for the wallet of those people, the fact that it's not good for the sport means nothing here. Everybody sees what Hamilton and McLaren are doing but nothing can be done as the few ones with deciding power decide to close their eyes.

Remember when BAR had an underweight car a couple of years ago? The drivers had nothing to do with it, still they were banned from a few races. The explanation "Hamilton knew nothing about the spying and thus must not be punished" seems a bit odd in that light. Remember when Schumacher parked his car in the last corner in Monaco? He got punished. Hamilton getting away with the yesterday incident seems again a bit odd in that light.

This is very clear. Ferrari won too much in the past years, they aren't allowed to do it now because it would make F1 look boring. So everything possible is done to ensure someone else takes the trophy. We've seen that it takes pretty ground breaking things to achieve - illegally (and it has been proved) got information, a few quite distinctive rule interpretation exceptions, fishy things even inside the McLaren team - but in the end the rich guys seem to get what they want.


Since it was Alonso who had the emails and knew the info (and tried to black mail Ron) he was given immunity so he can come forward , so actually the FIA protected Alonso & Pedro from getting banned. You seem to forget there are other drivers other than Hamilton who actually knew
 
Sorry Ron. How is it possible that we all forgot that it was his fastest sector time. Of course that means that he couldn't have driven it any faster. We apologize.

I don't agree completely with the rest of the post, but this part is spot on. Dennis is involved long enough in the sport to know that impeding doesn't always mean no improvement.


Everybody, time for statistics. And they say, Alonso wins. There were seven times that three guys charged for the titles. In two of them, the winner was leading before. In two, he was third before the last race. In three, the winner was 2nd in the standings coming into the last race.
 
massa was i think .300 or .400 seconds faster than kimi in the second sector. kimi was equal or within a tenth in the first and last

to me its obvious he could have gone faster

i cant believe nobody asked kimi why he didnt do another hot lap since he crossed the line before the checkered
 
Speed TV were asking the drivers, "What was the most memorable moment this season, good or bad."

Ralph Schumacher said, "Uhhhhhh.... uh... uhhhhhhhh." And cut.

:lol:
 
Everybody, time for statistics. And they say, Alonso wins. There were seven times that three guys charged for the titles. In two of them, the winner was leading before. In two, he was third before the last race. In three, the winner was 2nd in the standings coming into the last race.

2, 2, and 3. i think statistics currently show anything can happen.

who won in the most recent 3 way battle?
 
i cant believe nobody asked kimi why he didnt do another hot lap since he crossed the line before the checkered

Err... Because is tyres were down the drain?

Look at it this way. Hamilton's Supersofts didn't survive longer than five fuelburn laps. How the hell should Raikkonen's survive two hotlaps? They'll survive alright, but the second lap is already impossible to improve upon.

2, 2, and 3. i think statistics currently show anything can happen.

:rolleyes:

I'm not stupid... I just want Alonso to win it :P

who won in the most recent 3 way battle?

Alain Prost, McLaren, winning it from the retiring Nigel Mansell, Williams. 1986.
 
bernie wants alonso to win.....:odd:

and hamilton and massa :lol:


Predictions for first laps:

Massa to disappear after turn 1
Kimi to 2nd place
Hamilton to 3rd
Alonso to stay 4th

Result prediction:

Massa
Kimi
Alonso
Hamilton
Webber
Trulli
 
i didnt think you were stupid

thats why started with "i think" as in "my opinion is"

"I think" his lap could have possibly been improved seeing how he did not get a 100% out of his first. and he was that much lighter in fuel. and since this is for the championship and all a never say die attitude is just.
 
Ouch, big accident between Fisi and Yamamoto.

But Liuzzi, what happened man?
 
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