GT4 BMW Series 1 Virtual Drive is OUT!!!

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mashoutposse
The only thing that one might complain about is that the braking animation is indeed overly done. We all knew that, anyway.

Maybe maybe not...

As none of us have driven a 1 series we don't know how much body roll it actually has... I'm expecting the braking animation will be different depending on which car you are in and how the suspension is set up...

On a similar note... does this mean if you launch the car over a kerb and you go two wheels for a while... the camera will go 45 degrees? I hope so... that would be pretty damn cool!!

C.
 
Eagle
Uh the camera angle already shifts dependant on the tilt of the car...

Does it?!

Oh...

Does it tilt to the angle the car is at or just a little bit?

I don't ever remember getting it 45 degrees esque...

C.
 
Magnificent! I just watched mashoutposse's M3 video followed by Amar212's GT footage, and I hafta say that PD deserve some sort of medal. It's just so...real! Everything that I saw in the M3 video was there in GT, from the faded road markings and signs to the wooden shack on left a little way the slow banked left-hander. It's not just limited to that though...you watch the GT footage after it and you think to yourself "that's where he kicked it down just as he passed the red 911" and "that's where the guy on the motorbike waved him past". Hell I half expected to see the flatbed at the yellow flag area before the main straight. :P

There's only 2 problems that I can see now-

1. Nobody's gonna want to race on the other tracks. ;)
2. What the hell am I gonna do with my GTA: San Andreas preorder?! o_O; As if GT4 will ever see the light outside my PS2 once it's in there! :D

I'm gonna hafta get me a network adaptor too, someone needs to show you ladies how to drive. :P

*runs*
 
I have to say... This topic is only a couple of weeks old... and has the 4th most replies in the GT4 forum ever...

(And will soon be 3rd)

... This shows how much everyone wanted to see the NS in GT4... and how excited people are about playing it...

I'll bet it's not available in Arcade mode for ages... and you don't race it in simulation mode for ages... it'd be just like PD to tease us like that!!!

C.
 
Eagle
Uh the camera angle already shifts dependant on the tilt of the car...

Im pretty sure the view in ths demo is a completley new view.
In Prologue the new front view was Mounted at bonnet height, as you always got a different view height from car to car.
It was a big improvement over bumper cam of Gt3, and you could get quite a good indication of body movement.

However the view shown in this demo,The view is quite high one, although the 1 does look quite tall, it is much more loose, and looks to me more like a cam set on the helmet of the driver. the swaying is very severe as well as the hard braking head dip, and when you look at the replay video although the 1 series does move about a bit on its suspension, its nowhere near the amount of movement that the onboard cam would suggest.

Remember how it was mentioned That KY had hoped to introduce some new views to GT4, and that a physics engine had been created for the drivers, and also mentioned the fact that these Physics drivers would also be present in The tin tops, this would seem quite unecessary, but maybe they have to be there so that the physics of the driver in the car, can give a representitve camera movement in this view.
It seems that the camera is Offset from the driving position though, to appear centrally in the car. Hmmm

What ever it is, Its definately different from bumper cam of GT3 and Bonnet height cam of GT4P.
And if it does in fact turn out to be related to the Virtual driver, I will welcome the extra challenge that will bring, but i do hope they will retain the cam from Prologue too.
 
I just watched the M3 CSL video, and I enjoyed it a lot more than amar212's video. That was awesome! The M3 CSL must be a hell of a car to beat all those speed bikes and Porsches. Love its sound, too.
 
ur right solid it is a hellhound! but u gotta consider that most people go onthere for fun and most arent professional race drivers as the CSL driver isnt one either...its one of the sweetest nordschleife videos ive ever seen nonetheless i mean jst the sound!
when the track is locked for exsclusive usage the CSL does the lap at least a minute faster...it holds the record for production cars beating even the porsche GT2.
 
alpine_man
when the track is locked for exsclusive usage the CSL does the lap at least a minute faster...it holds the record for production cars beating even the porsche GT2.

Are you sure about the fact that it beats the time of a Porsche GT2??

Do you really think that a 360hp 1400kg car can beat a GT2 which weights almost the same, with an additional 120hp, and a rear placed engine (helps traction)? I don´t think so.

The M3 CSL has been featured in the latest Best Motoring videos, and it was almost 2 sec slower than the 996 GT3 around Motegi east course. The GT3 was also faster in the 0-400 and top speed runs. The GT2 should be even faster than the GT3!!

With equally skilled drivers, the CSL will never beat the GT2.

I am a BMW fan, but I recon that the CSL is not the weapon to defeat a GT2 👎
 
ok man im sorry let me clear things up...the CSL prototype did the lap 30secs faster than the normal M3....when the CSL (360hp) came out they ran the production version and it ran an almost even 7:50 - so far so good at that time the only official Porsche reference time was 7:54 done in a 996 GT3 (381hp). lateral acceleration was .15g higher than in the porsche and the brake from 200kmh to zero was .4 seconds faster.

theres always gonna be someone whos faster but this is a 1400kg GT sports car based on a mid-class sports/luxury sedan...in comparisson with a 911. since then (late 2003) i havent heard of another official new record...which makes it the king of the hill right now:)
 
one more thing...why do u think they did the record with a gt3 and not a gt2 even though it was out at that time with its 462hp?
the gt3 was always faster than the gt2 on a race track, its a naturally aspirated high reving race engine jst like the one in the CSL compared to a monster bi turbo with massive traction problems in race conditions especially with a track that features ups and downs, different tarmac types and wet and dry parts.
 
alpine_man
one more thing...why do u think they did the record with a gt3 and not a gt2 even though it was out at that time with its 462hp?
the gt3 was always faster than the gt2 on a race track, its a naturally aspirated high reving race engine jst like the one in the CSL compared to a monster bi turbo with massive traction problems in race conditions especially with a track that features ups and downs, different tarmac types and wet and dry parts.

Are you trying to tell us that the GT3 is faster than a GT2?? Dream on!!

Sport Auto magazine´s special driver Horst von Saurma (a true Ringmeister) tested the 996 GT3 Mk.1 (360hp) and the 996 GT2 Mk.1 (460hp) and the lap times were 8min 3sec vs 7min 46sec. There is a 17 sec difference in favour of the GT2. So tell me, how do you think the GT3 is faster?

Do you have evidence of a 7min 50sec lap for the CSL?

You can check my figures here : http://www.nurburgring.de/?rubrik=rekorde&order=Fahrer
 
By the way, the Mk.2 996 GT2 should be even faster than the 7min 46sec time of the Mk.1 996 GT2, thanks to an additional 20hp (483hp for the latest model).

There is in fact a 120hp difference between the latest CSL and GT2 models.

And we are not talking about if one car is based on a luxury sedan or a sports car. We are talking about which is fastest around the Nürburgring.
 
Solid Lifters
I just watched the M3 CSL video, and I enjoyed it a lot more than amar212's video. That was awesome! The M3 CSL must be a hell of a car to beat all those speed bikes and Porsches. Love its sound, too.

Yeah... can't wait until we get a Ring vid with much faster cars.
 
the figures are from the BMW M Gmbh

i didnt know there was an official test for the GT2 sorry...
but u can run a GT3 on 7.54...and ure right it dont matter what its based on got lost there for a sec:)
 
alpine_man
the figures are from the BMW M Gmbh

i didnt know there was an official test for the GT2 sorry...
but u can run a GT3 on 7.54...and ure right it dont matter what its based on got lost there for a sec:)

If the M3 CSL can indeed lap the ´Ring in the 7min 50sec range, then BMW must have used a really fast test driver (that wouldn´t surprise me), or there may be some difference in the way they take their lap times compared with other testers.

I have seen that Best Motoring stops their lap timer several meters (around 100mts) before the actual track point were they started. These allows a shorter lap time. They are either cheating, or maybe that is the way Nordshliefe laps are usually timed by testers.

Compared with Amar´s BMW demo video, Best Mototing starts timing at the end of the starting short straight (just before the left turn) and stops just after the last right curve. Therefore, they are not timing the the actual time it take to cover that short straight. Strange 👎
 
Another reason for such a good lap time for the CSL maybe the semi-race tyre compound it rides on. Those Michelin tires are almost slicks, and have terrific grip on dry asfalt. When you purchase the CSL with those tyres you must sign some documents where you declare that you already know that the tyres do not grip when cold or on wet surfaces!! You can even ask to have the car delimited, if you sign that the car will be used on track. Quite a special spec!!
 
Indeed you have to sign a disclaimer to say that you know the tires wont work if its wet or a bit chilly. And you need a racing licence before the will disengage the limmiter. I can beleive that the CSL will be so quick round Nordschleife. BMW went to extremes to make the CSL faster, they even moved the fueltank foreward for better weight distrobution, the cardboard bootfloor, and of course, that carbon fibre roof. If you consider that the CSL is almost 2 seconds quicker than the standard M3 round the short Anglesey circuit in Wales where the average fast car can easily do a running lap in under a minute it's pretty believable what the CSL can manage at the Nürburgring.
 
ok.......i havent read to far back in this thread.....is the M3 CSL in GT4 or are you talking about somthing else?
 
I really want to see these new vids but I have 56k :yuck:

Is there anybody here (preferably someone reliable) That could stick the video's on a CD (Including Amilfi and New York when they come) for me? I will be more than happy to pay for the cd's and the postage and some extra for their trouble via pay-pal. It wouldnt cost you anymore off your usage limit cause you would of already downloaded them. Im sure alot of other people with slower conections would like this to.
Please, help me out!
PM me or just post
Thanks
 
supra_luva209
I really want to see these new vids but I have 56k :yuck:

Is there anybody here (preferably someone reliable) That could stick the video's on a CD (Including Amilfi and New York when they come) for me? I will be more than happy to pay for the cd's and the postage and some extra for their trouble via pay-pal. It wouldnt cost you anymore off your usage limit cause you would of already downloaded them. Im sure alot of other people with slower conections would like this to.
Please, help me out!
PM me or just post
Thanks

I would do it
 
supra_luva209
I really want to see these new vids but I have 56k :yuck:

Is there anybody here (preferably someone reliable) That could stick the video's on a CD (Including Amilfi and New York when they come) for me? I will be more than happy to pay for the cd's and the postage and some extra for their trouble via pay-pal. It wouldnt cost you anymore off your usage limit cause you would of already downloaded them. Im sure alot of other people with slower conections would like this to.
Please, help me out!
PM me or just post
Thanks

I would also do it... if you were in a nearby country... it'll cost you a lot more if I did it from the UK (Plus I don't have a Gaypal account cos I don't trust em/like em!)

I suggest you try and find someone from NZ or Oz that would be able to do it... that would save you some money!!

C.
 
supra_luva209
I really want to see these new vids but I have 56k :yuck:

Is there anybody here (preferably someone reliable) That could stick the video's on a CD (Including Amilfi and New York when they come) for me? I will be more than happy to pay for the cd's and the postage and some extra for their trouble via pay-pal. It wouldnt cost you anymore off your usage limit cause you would of already downloaded them. Im sure alot of other people with slower conections would like this to.
Please, help me out!
PM me or just post
Thanks
I'm in NZ and I've got both the high quality .mov and XVID videos so far and I'm on 56k. Send me a PM if you are interested, I'll be sure to download the videos coming up later this month.
 
rico13
I was Drunk when I saw That video is it real or a game video?

You really were drunk weren't you :lol:

Notice how much throttle lift off a real driver on that track uses. He is not straight from the gas to the brake. This gives him a certain level of comfort in his braking zone.
Also it gives the impression that the Nurburgring is a scary track to drive for real, it must take a very long time to get to know all of it.
 

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