GT5 "Spec 2.0" Discussion Thread - Read the First post!

[Nismo34]

They saving RAM

BTW: What I thinking about is damage. Improved physics are claimed. To me damage is part of the physics engine right?
And I think about that GTR'RM, its black. For now we have only white RM's right? So...

Uhhh... You can paint them.... You do know that? Go into a one make race with an RM car... They arent all white....

 

[alucard0712]

Doesnt make sense, whats the point of new tracks if you cannot sue them anywhere except online If thats the case spec 2 won't mean much to me.

A-spec is smaller then shift in Gt5, thats just wrong. What Gt5 needs is ay more intelligent races, events. flags...Ai that scales to your car....... Come on PD.

I doubt A-Spec will take an overhaul. 90% of us already done it. If only they ask us for starting a new game? I doubt...

I'm really, really hope for A-Spec/B-spec overhaul. More money, damage, sell-able and multiple (can be acquired multiple times) prize cars (to make money with fun). etc...

Uhhh... You can paint them.... You do know that? Go into a one make race with an RM car... They arent all white....

****!

 

[GTNewfie]

I doubt A-Spec will take an overhaul. 90% of us already done it. If only they ask us for starting a new game? I doubt...

I'm really, really hope for A-Spec/B-spec overhaul. More money, damage, sell-able and multiple (can be acquired multiple times) prize cars (to make money with fun). etc...



****!

I doesnt need an overhaul all though it needs one badly, I love Gt5, the physics and handling, but the SP mode in Gt5 is way behind.... But all they need to do is put some good events , manufacturer events, with AI that scales, I mean it's not exactly hard lol.

 

[White & Nerdy]

they are probably saving that feature for GT6.

When it should have been in GT5 from release? That's really, really sad.

Unless it turns out like Shift2's editor, which is possibly worse than not having one. But that's another story.

 

[freshseth83]

Way behind because people take the easy route and use race cars for Sunday Cup? Theres not many races, but drive what they drive and its a lot more fun, trust me, I'm doing it now all over again. But I do wish we had driving events like those 5 lap challenges from GT4. Livery editor is way behind? Not everyone needs stars or flames or stripes on their car. It'd be welcome but GT5 isn't 'behind' because of it's omission IMO.

 

[papaspurs]

Doesnt make sense, whats the point of new tracks if you cannot sue them anywhere except online If thats the case spec 2 won't mean much to me.

A-spec is smaller then shift in Gt5, thats just wrong. What Gt5 needs is ay more intelligent races, events. flags...Ai that scales to your car....... Come on PD.

So read the part about the upgrade AI.

Why would they not add offline events for DLC tracks? Or do you think they would not want to maximize sales?

 

[LogiForce]

Wow I couldn't imagine how it would be to have Internet that fast. A movie would
Take less than a minute.

If only the servers would be fast enough for me to download at full speed from at that time. Which is already an issue at the moment but improving slowly.

Ontopic: I have to re-adjust my prediction. I think it'll be the average blu ray movie size. So let's say about 8gig or more.

 

[GTNewfie]

So read the part about the upgrade AI.

Why would they not add offline events for DLC tracks? Or do you think they would not want to maximize sales?

because this is PD............... upgraded AI, heard that before.... Ai improvement is not scaling..................... Do you know what scaling means?

 

[Maxymilan]

Wow I couldn't imagine how it would be to have Internet that fast. A movie would
Take less than a minute.

I use torrent with downloading.
It does 1.5MB per second.
Have fast internet connection, goes faster because of software too, i have Mac OS X Lion (The newest) on a MacBook Pro.
Netherlands is one of the best connections too.

Ontopic: It must be big, game is high detailed modeled, we get all 2011 Nascars and more so... prepare!

 

[BurnoutAddict]

Anyone who wont be able to download a 2GB+ patch without sitting around for a few hours/days, then do what I do!

There is a piece of FREE software for Windows that you can use.
It essentially turns your PC into a proxy server, that intercepts your PS3 downloads. Your PC downloads the file (using multiple connections, so it accelerates the download), freeing up your PS3 to do other things. Then when your PC has finished downloading it, you restart the download on PS3, and you actually download the file from your PC.

Works with firmware updates, game patches, and even store content.
You just have to change ONE setting on your PS3 network settings.
Works on wired or wireless connection (wired recommended).

I've been using it for about a year now. I highly recommend it.


Ill get a download link for you.

DOWNLOAD LINK
All instructions are on the page, and contained within the readme file upon download.


I know Sony probably wouldn't recommend it, but works 99.9% off the time for me.

 

[PirateThom]

Considering a lot of that stuff was requested both on here and other places, I'd say they're well aware of what fans want in terms of AI.

 

[Risco]

Considering a lot of that stuff was requested both on here and other places, I'd say they're well aware of what fans want in terms of AI.

Aware and actually doing something about it is another matter. The goes all the way back to the original. They are not going to fix it to the level any of us want. I think all that will happen is the cars will be faster, but nothing AI in respect of blocking etc.

 

[Piotrov]

I also have doubts about a major improvement to the AI. However do you all remember the pre release demos and how good the AI behaved? Maybe they have the AI tweaked but can't use it due to the lack of memory?

I dunno really. I'm just guessing.

 

[smilerftm]

I guess that it will be about 2 gig in size and will take many hours to download no matter what speed your connection is due to the fact that tens of thousands (if not, more) people will be downloading the update as soon as it is live. I bought the Black Ops zombie map pack from the PSN the day it became live and it took about 4 hours to download and that was about 2 gigs worth and I have a 50meg connection at that.

I can see it taking a long time for this reason, I'm glad I won't be at work as it could very well mean I could be one of the first to start the download while everyone else is still at work and so I'll get a lot of it if not all while the traffic is still relatively low. Once it hits around 5pm or so it'll be going at a snails pace for just about everyone no matter what your speed your internet is

 

[papaspurs]

because this is PD............... upgraded AI, heard that before.... Ai improvement is not scaling..................... Do you know what scaling means?

wow, how rude...

yes I know what scaling means

Would you not say that AI that scales to your car is an upgrade?

 

[RomKnight]

PD will cap the upload to 500k per psn login because the "tubes" can't handle the traffic and they want us to suffer equally

/me hides

 

[Cosbuster]

Or do you think they would not want to maximize sales?

If they were relly interested in pursuing sales I somehow doubt they'd start releasing DLC a year later when half the people that got the game have moved on.

 

[Cosbuster]

Double post, delete please.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

All good, except no livery editor. Instead of this one feature that probably 90% of players want, we get a "racing gear pack".

I'm really at a loss for words to even try to guess at explaining why they did this.

I don't want a livery editor. I've played Forza and made some designs (I sold over 100 Punto's at 10K each on my storefront) but most liveries are terrible or abusive I'd rather have perfect liveries made by PD for cars, more simple options would be nice though, e.g. The WRC cars only need a changed number and name on the window so you can have your favourite driver (like the Ferrari F1 cars).

 

[m0rris]

I don't want a livery editor.... but most liveries are terrible or abusive I'd rather have perfect liveries made by PD for cars, more simple options would be nice though,

The one thing I would like Polyphony to contemplate however is a livery system whereby there are a stock setup of stickers, shapes, numbers etc so that they can control the images (ie no hello kitty liveries) and do their best to filter out abusive material.

I was mucking around on a freeware game called renault trucks racing which had a basic livery setup like that and I thought the basic idea would be perfect for my interests/desires.

m0rris

 

[PirateThom]

I still think the ability, at least online but at that point extended to the rest of the game, to set decals and colours, even if quite basic, makes sense. If only to differentiate the cars.

 

[ParkourVeyron]

but most liveries are terrible or abusive

It's such a simple fix- add a Report Livery button, give the user the option to turn off the ability to see others liveries, and make a feature that allows hosts to create No-Livery rooms. Problem solved. It just kills me when people totally diss livery editors just because they're afraid people will put something vulgar or obscene on their cars.

I don't want a livery editor. I'd rather have perfect liveries made by PD for cars

Ahem, the liveries that PD make are far from "perfect." In my opinion they're terrible, boxy numbers on the sides, and "GRAN TURISMO" spelled out in big letters at the top of the windshield. What ever happened to making your car YOURS???

 

[paskowitz]

How about this. Probably for GT6 but hell.

Every car gets a body kit. Some get race mods. Every car can be painted with a livery

The liveries can be customized from a set of predetermined decals and graphics. You would not be able to re-size or move each graphic, just choose which one goes where (ie number go on the top of the rear fender, or strips go on the top or the side) and what color. There would also be full liveries that would essentially do all the work for you. Considering that each car's livery would be slightly different, with say 200+ premium cars, 400+ decals, over a 1000 colors, that would give plenty of room for individuality. This would also keep the game classy, with the worst thing happening a pink Jaguar XJ13 with neon green flames. That is not much worse than what we have now, and is not as bad as Nazi themed 300SLs.

 

[vandaliser]

liveries are a complete waste of time and money. Polyphony, there are other things i want in Gran Turismo. And livery ain't on top of the list. because superficial stuff like that should always remain at the bottom of a car game.


Besides it makes GT look like some kiddie need for speed game. GT has a class feeling to it that has been built over a decade. It's a serious Game. Adding some colouring objects to cars would diminish it.


If you really want to colour your cars then by all means try forza.

 

[GTP_FastM3]

I guess I need to wait and see what's offered in DLC. Unless the DLC is offering lots of new A-spec events and better A-spec events I'm not impressed.

 

[Rated-M3]

It's such a simple fix- add a Report Livery button, give the user the option to turn off the ability to see others liveries, and make a feature that allows hosts to create No-Livery rooms. Problem solved. It just kills me when people totally diss livery editors just because they're afraid people will put something vulgar or obscene on their cars.



Ahem, the liveries that PD make are far from "perfect." In my opinion they're terrible, boxy numbers on the sides, and "GRAN TURISMO" spelled out in big letters at the top of the windshield. What ever happened to making your car YOURS???

I agree as far as "regular" cars, but in amateur and professional racing you don't get to "make the car YOURS." Certain decals are required to be ran on each car along side with the individual's sponsors. I'm not sure what you mean by "boxy numbers" but there is a standard for the number decal, ensuring the best visibility and readability.

It would be cool to be able to add liveries to non-racing cars. After all, more stickers = more horsepower.

 

[Nismo34]

And cue livery editor flame war #327,836,528....

 

[E28]

vandaliser, just because liveries aren't at the top of your list, doesn't mean PD shouldn't add them. Just look at forza. From what I've seen and played, the livery editor is possibly the best thing in the game. Add that to the pretty darn good car list, and you have a winner.

 

[KWZX10]

liveries are a complete waste of time and money. Polyphony, there are other things i want in Gran Turismo. And livery ain't on top of the list. because superficial stuff like that should always remain at the bottom of a car game.


Besides it makes GT look like some kiddie need for speed game. GT has a class feeling to it that has been built over a decade. It's a serious Game. Adding some colouring objects to cars would diminish it.


If you really want to colour your cars then by all means try forza.

Yeah yeah NOT.

...I really can't understand people like you. It's ok if you don't like it, it's fine, it's ok if you think that it's useless, BUT.

STOP with this stupid thing about NEED 4 SP33D KIDZ STUPID CARS.
GOD. EVERY car in motorsport have some kind of liveries, stickers, numbers, shape, colors, lines etc.

 

[B13POS]

Look. They're NOT adding livery. Stop talking about it.