GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Linius]

Have been doing some qualifying these past few days for race C. Managed to get it down to 1:46:3xx in the Supra. Simply assuming I have to drive the Supra to even be competitive for a good time. Then I decided to give the Mustang a go and it took me two laps to beat my time set with the Supra. A few laps after I broke my record again and brought it down to 1:45:962. First time I ever feel comfortable in the Mustang. And I love that it happens on an American track. Seems fitting to rock the Mustang around the ring this week.

 

[HickOnACrick]

I totally get what your saying and yes my quote was wrong to say. I dont know I just expected to see more variety in these tuned races. I get everyone wants to win and myself included I want to win too, but I don’t know I just expected this to be a bit of a fun race with the no dr turned off.

I am also prone to go for the meta car if it's in my garage, but it's more about grabbing the best QT so I can get out of the back of the pack. If I am in a respectful lobby, then I'll start switching cars between races - as do many others in the lobby. I don't play enough to have more than a few cars in each class anyway, so while I may be in the meta one week, I likely will not be in the next.

My most enjoyable races aren't those I win, it's those with the best racing, which for me, seems to happen more when I am not winning. Hah! the title of my memoir "Not Winning! And Loving It!"

Man I don't know what's going on but I'm having a hard time trying to get the car to turn on this game as of late. Noticed the same thing when I ran race C at Redbull ring last week. And what's weird is that competitive. I ran a 1:44.85 at Daytona the other day and that's in the ball park. The fastest time worldwide is 1:43.02. I feel like I could go faster if I can get the damn car to turn. I don't even feel like im overdriving the car either. Btw I'm using the Toyota supra like everyone else.

FNG, but when I am having the same struggle, it is because I am not focused on the exit, I am focused on the turn. I need to remind myself that as soon as I start to turn in, my focus need to shift to the next focal point...the exit. Head follows eyes, Body follows head. It's very Zen...BE the exit...Ohhhhhmmmm.

 

[sturk0167]

I just did my first Monza race this week, and I learned a lesson.
When starting at the back, do not assume that the car in front of you is also planning to take the first turn at full-throttle.

 

[benjoi84]

A quick question to all you master-tuners, with regards to these HP/weight restricted Daily A's.

Is it generally optimal to max out the HP and then de-tune, and go full Weight Reduction and add Ballast? Or can you save your credits?

 

[Talon16]

Had an interesting C yesterday on my 2 account. The Youtuber's dream (even though I don't Youtube), from last to first! An inadvertent last to first as that wasn't my intended goal. Haven't had a whole lot of time/interest in playing so I was going to jump on, started from last with no qualifying lap, and see what happened. Don't know what all was happening in front of me but one by one they fell via pass, off, or penalty. Some good racing in there to boot.

Was in the Jag which is pretty good here, IMO. Really good on tires as I was able to easily do a 4H/6M strat. Top speed is a few mph short of the Supra and the rear is a little less stable but very manageable. If you're looking for something different, worth a go.

 

[Roggers]

I am also prone to go for the meta car if it's in my garage, but it's more about grabbing the best QT so I can get out of the back of the pack. If I am in a respectful lobby, then I'll start switching cars between races - as do many others in the lobby. I don't play enough to have more than a few cars in each class anyway, so while I may be in the meta one week, I likely will not be in the next.

My most enjoyable races aren't those I win, it's those with the best racing, which for me, seems to happen more when I am not winning. Hah! the title of my memoir "Not Winning! And Loving It!"

I don’t have an issue with people using the meta car, as I use the meta too. Daily race c this week I’m using Supra and sometimes the Jaguar. I just expected race a to be whole mix of cars tuned cars not a 400bhp corvette that was all.

 

[MIE1992]

A quick question to all you master-tuners, with regards to these HP/weight restricted Daily A's.

Is it generally optimal to max out the HP and then de-tune, and go full Weight Reduction and add Ballast? Or can you save your credits?

I mean, that's what I do. I buy all the tuning parts - plus the full-customize ECU, ballast, and power limiter - and then I go from there.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

I just did my first Monza race this week, and I learned a lesson.
When starting at the back, do not assume that the car in front of you is also planning to take the first turn at full-throttle.

Yeah, first lap. Second lap: nothing better than going around him on the outside with 174 mph. 😆

 

[sturk0167]

@HickOnACrick Hi. I was the one named TPC_Vigilante that honked at you at the Monza race.
I love that you used the '69GTO.

*Also, I like to honk at people.

 

[MIE1992]

*Also, I like to honk at people.

based and honk-pilled

 

[Redneckchef]

Calling am end to my week of dailies. Been running daily B and its getting a but messier as the week goes on. I like Daytona, but the flow of some of those Trial Mountain sections is too good to pass up. But more and more reckless and outright dirty drivers starting to nail their unicorn qualifying times and get higher up the grid to cause real trouble. Several good races but a couple real all stars just making it not worth it.
Including this wonder child:

 

[Bullwinkle]

I've been in the opposite situation when using my F&F Supra - so slow off the line I get absolutely swamped before we even reach he first turn, and someone inevitably pits me. Need to look at the gearing. Daytona is much safer, always starts at the back so I can pick through the initial mess.

Here’s what I do. It may not be special, but I won off the line every single time. The gearing in the AMG may be shorter because it’s a 7 speed, so that matters. But I start with TC1 and in second gear. I floor it and let the brake go in second and I’m gone. By the time I shift to third I’m also turning TC to zero and I’m off. I’m usually rear ending people and trying to swerve around t run and get to the front by the first chicane.

I just did my first Monza race this week, and I learned a lesson.
When starting at the back, do not assume that the car in front of you is also planning to take the first turn at full-throttle.

I keep doing that too. People are qualifying high but then braking at the weirdest places! I’ve got so many people and ruined my own races! I think I’ll figure things out though. Maybe. . .

A quick question to all you master-tuners, with regards to these HP/weight restricted Daily A's.

Is it generally optimal to max out the HP and then de-tune, and go full Weight Reduction and add Ballast? Or can you save your credits?

I max everything out, including all the special parts, then tune it down and add ballast. The main reason is that a) I have the parts! and b) it makes the torque curve much higher. This makes for a quick takeoff at the start.

 

[Stilva]

I had a much better time in race B this evening as compared to yesterday. I did manage to drop my qualifying time by a tenth to a 2:00.2XX. There is more time to gain, but I keep touching the inside of the corners/walls and that got annoying so I stopped.

I just did 2 races today as I wanted to get some practice in for the GTWS on Friday. I qualified P5 for both races which was a surprise honestly. There was some contact on lap 1 of race 1 when me another driver went 2 wide going into the downhill turn after the big sweeper the end of the back straight. I had the advantage but they didn't back off so we collided and I took off. A P5 finish for that race. Race 2 I made a mistake trying to attempt a cutback pass on the sweeper and the end of the back straight, but I didn't realize other drivers were so close. I did make some contact, but backed off once I did and let them get ahead. Some nice racing after that with those who passed me. P6 in the end for me so that's good enough for me.

I'm having some fun slinging the Alfa around Trial Mountian. Even with the terrible time I had yesterday, I think this is a good combo. I'm looking forward to some good races tomorrow if the trend of my races tonight were any indication of the quality of racing.

 

[D_Dragline]

Calling am end to my week of dailies. Been running daily B and its getting a but messier as the week goes on. I like Daytona, but the flow of some of those Trial Mountain sections is too good to pass up. But more and more reckless and outright dirty drivers starting to nail their unicorn qualifying times and get higher up the grid to cause real trouble. Several good races but a couple real all stars just making it not worth it.
Including this wonder child:

That guy was pulling exactly the same rubbish last week at RBR, including the start exploit. It’s really frustrating because he’s so slow that you can’t help catching up to him even after he put maneuvers you.

I called him out a couple of times and he disappeared but he obviously hasn’t taken any of my feedback on board.

 

[Redneckchef]

That guy was pulling exactly the same rubbish last week at RBR, including the start exploit. It’s really frustrating because he’s so slow that you can’t help catching up to him even after he put maneuvers you.

I called him out a couple of times and he disappeared but he obviously hasn’t taken any of my feedback on board.

Worst part is that with the depleted fields of runners they end up in splits they shouldn't be allowed into with their B/B rating. Does seem that there is a definite way to ensure you get the start glitch then. Time to farm it off to PD.

 

[LGBT_Barron]

I was off the game for a few days and now I'm slowly getting back into it. Initially very pleased with Trial Mountain, the disillusionment came very quickly. The new damage to the car is very disturbing/devastating and, in my opinion, greatly exaggerated. Then there was the very uncomfortable positioning of the penalty zone... Really very annoying.
With the GT-R I'm currently on 1.58.7xx, which keeps me messing up a few small details, so I'm currently denied 1.57 (which would be my current optimum). Out of sheer interest, I grabbed the Viper again and did a few laps. My goodness... driving this car is different than the GT-R but really exciting AND fast. On my video you can see how, despite a few mistakes and obvious room for improvement, I have already managed a good 1.59.xxx.
Most impressive is the sheer speed that can be achieved with the Viper. I want to encourage everyone to give the Viper a try... it's fun and a far cry from any of the metas. (I even suspect that the Viper can outperform an Alfa even with a slipstream on the straight. And if you're behind an Alfa.. well you just drive over it.... it's that fast)

Did some races earlier and tried to improve my time (1.58.22) but i was just getting really frustrated with it all tbh. When you set a good time and start near the front the races are usually very clean but it's so difficult to make up any positions, hardly anyone makes a big enough mistake for you to capitalise on, your main hope is someone gets a penalty or some damage. And trying to improve my time......I've no idea how i managed the time i set, i know exactly what I'm meant to do, where to brake, how i should enter and exit every corner.....but no couldn't get near it. I know the general consensus is takes less skill to drive the 4WD cars but for some reason i found the Citroen and the Vantage easier and dare i say more fun to drive. The TT times don't lie though and i know they are 'slower' than the 4WD cars but in a race the gap isn't as big as you might think.....I know the majority are using the Alfa but it's far from a one make race.......unlike Race C, the appeal of which totally baffles me (but in saying that maybe if i had a more positive attitude to the combo i might do better)

 

[D_Dragline]

Did some races earlier and tried to improve my time (1.58.22) but i was just getting really frustrated with it all tbh. When you set a good time and start near the front the races are usually very clean but it's so difficult to make up any positions, hardly anyone makes a big enough mistake for you to capitalise on, your main hope is someone gets a penalty or some damage. And trying to improve my time......I've no idea how i managed the time i set, i know exactly what I'm meant to do, where to brake, how i should enter and exit every corner.....but no couldn't get near it. I know the general consensus is takes less skill to drive the 4WD cars but for some reason i found the Citroen and the Vantage easier and dare i say more fun to drive. The TT times don't lie though and i know they are 'slower' than the 4WD cars but in a race the gap isn't as big as you might think.....I know the majority are using the Alfa but it's far from a one make race.......unlike Race C, the appeal of which totally baffles me (but in saying that maybe if i had a more positive attitude to the combo i might do better)

I’m just going to repeat that I am winning plenty of top split Race C in the Jag. The Mustang is equally strong. Car performance is not the factor behind one-make grids.

 

[BigSarj]

Was in the Jag which is pretty good here, IMO. Really good on tires as I was able to easily do a 4H/6M strat. Top speed is a few mph short of the Supra and the rear is a little less stable but very manageable. If you're looking for something different, worth a go.

Good to know about the tires. If I use another car, I'll give it a go. But with the Supra being both fastest and so incredibly stable, I almost have no choice. Especially in a race that requires hards. This is coming from someone who is really not super good like some of you.

I won't get a chance to race until tomorrow but I will most certainly keep the Jaguar in mind if the undercut is necessary for me to gain places.

I’m just going to repeat that I am winning plenty of top split Race C in the Jag. The Mustang is equally strong. Car performance is not the factor behind one-make grids.

Do you mind expanding on that a bit?

Edit* - Nevermind, I think I get it. It's about driving well and good decision making.

 

[Cherryturbo]

Finding race C really difficult this week. Consistency seems to be the key here. Seems if you can keep it on the track for 10 laps you’re not going to finish poorly. Sounds fairly obvious but with different tyre strategies, significant tyre wear, mysterious track limits and various skill levels, 10 laps clean is not that easy.

Still can’t get the Supra around comfortably so I have been using mainly the Jag with the odd run in the Mustang.

Wish I had a map of the actual track limit penalty zones. If I didn’t know better, I swear its moving around in the chicane!

 

[D_Dragline]

Good to know about the tires. If I use another car, I'll give it a go. But with the Supra being both fastest and so incredibly stable, I almost have no choice. Especially in a race that requires hards. This is coming from someone who is really not super good like some of you.

I won't get a chance to race until tomorrow but I will most certainly keep the Jaguar in mind if the undercut is necessary for me to gain places.



Do you mind expanding on that a bit?

Edit* - Nevermind, I think I get it. It's about driving well and good decision making.

It’s more than that. The Supra is probably the fastest available car over a single TT lap because if you nail every aspect it’s fast. But, in-race both the Jag and Mustang are strong in critical areas and, from my experience and what I’m seeing from others, have a wider margin for error. It is much easier to get the infield right in the Jag because it rotates better and exits better.

The Jag is also better on tyres. Even if you go for a 5/5 you are doing your 5th lap on better tyres than the Supra. 4h6m is easily manageable.

I just ran a race against a guy in a Supra who has a qualifying time 4 tenths better than me. In the race he got turn 2 wrong and I got past. On lap 2 we both made no mistakes and he was 2 tenths faster, but every lap after that I was half a second quicker between turn 1 and the chicane. He could make up about 3-4 tenths on the run to turn 1. Less if he didn’t have slipstream. When we went to hards any small mistake cost him at least 2 tenths. Mine cost me a tenth or less.

I genuinely think that unless you are the absolute cream of the crop who never makes an error, the Jag is a better option in Race C.

 

[BigSarj]

It’s more than that. The Supra is probably the fastest available car over a single TT lap because if you nail every aspect it’s fast. But, in-race both the Jag and Mustang are strong in critical areas and, from my experience and what I’m seeing from others, have a wider margin for error. It is much easier to get the infield right in the Jag because it rotates better and exits better.

The Jag is also better on tyres. Even if you go for a 5/5 you are doing your 5th lap on better tyres than the Supra. 4h6m is easily manageable.

I just ran a race against a guy in a Supra who has a qualifying time 4 tenths better than me. In the race he got turn 2 wrong and I got past. On lap 2 we both made no mistakes and he was 2 tenths faster, but every lap after that I was half a second quicker between turn 1 and the chicane. He could make up about 3-4 tenths on the run to turn 1. Less if he didn’t have slipstream. When we went to hards any small mistake cost him at least 2 tenths. Mine cost me a tenth or less.

I genuinely think that unless you are the absolute cream of the crop who never makes an error, the Jag is a better option in Race C.

Noted. I'll give it a shot for sure. Better rotation will certainly help in the infield as long as I don't oversteer exiting turn one as I was wont to do last time we had a daily at Daytona.

@Cherryturbo I think you just have to keep your two right side tires to the right of the white painted line (you may get away with the wheels even being on them) when coming out of the chicane. That's what I've been aiming for and it's been good so far.

 

[Linius]

I finally decided to do some races for daily race C late last night. Qualified on pole in rank C with my 1:45:962. Overshoot T1 and dropped a position right at the start. And then disaster struck in T2 as I got punted off the track. Managed to get back on close to the back. And then got hit again turning left onto the banking towards the busstop. I already braked really late and still the guy behind me managed to push me straight into the tire wall. Had to limp around the track in a broken car for half a lap too. Race properly destroyed and finished P10 out of 11 finishers.

Then in my second race I qualified on pole again. But I absolutely **** myself in T2 of the first lap. Got the exit completely wrong and hit the grass with my left front tire and did a beautiful 360 onto the grass. Got back on track in last place a few seconds behind the pack. Knowing I was faster than most in the lobby I decided to just send it and see what I could salvage. Ultimately finished in P4 after a fight for the podium on the final lap whilst taking fastest lap. Felt ironic to take P4 but also the pole position and fastest lap.

I’m really gonna have to learn to be able to spot drivers dive bombing on tight corners to avoid heavy contact in the first lap. As well as be better at overtaking much slower drivers who brake much sooner than you’d ever expect. I usually end up losing time in those situations trying everything not to hit them when they surprise me. Especially going into the busstop at Daytona behind a slower driver has been terrifying me.

Feeling positive about getting some serious race mileage in Daytona over the weekend. Hard to get right but very satisfying to race if the lobby allows for it.

Oh and I might add this was all in the Mustang. As mentioned above with the Jag already, definitely try something else than the Supra. There are alternatives. I do race in C rank though. I suppose in A/A+ lobbies it will be hard to beat the meta car.

 

[HickOnACrick]

Had an interesting C yesterday on my 2 account. The Youtuber's dream (even though I don't Youtube), from last to first! An inadvertent last to first as that wasn't my intended goal. Haven't had a whole lot of time/interest in playing so I was going to jump on, started from last with no qualifying lap, and see what happened. Don't know what all was happening in front of me but one by one they fell via pass, off, or penalty. Some good racing in there to boot.

Was in the Jag which is pretty good here, IMO. Really good on tires as I was able to easily do a 4H/6M strat. Top speed is a few mph short of the Supra and the rear is a little less stable but very manageable. If you're looking for something different, worth a go.

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It's not the Jag, you clearly have harnessed the American Server Shield with your livery choice.

@HickOnACrick Hi. I was the one named TPC_Vigilante that honked at you at the Monza race.
I love that you used the '69GTO.

*Also, I like to honk at people.

That was my first attempt at the A-race. I grabbed the GTO with the Aaron Judge livery, tuned it as best I could and gave it a go. Unfortunately MY American Server Shield (ASS) wasn't working and I was mobbed in Ascari. I honestly think my mobber just wanted to check out the livery. Pronoun stayed with me the remainder of the race like a pilot fish around a shark...just watching me race.

Went back to the "garage" and was able to gain a couple seconds in my QT, but in spite of that, once the race started, I was quickly outgunned. My best QT in the GTO was 12 seconds off your pace and the pace of most of the others. Regardless, it was fun and I got some love for my car and livery.

@Bullwinkle Curva Grande flat out at 149 mph in a '69 GTO - it took me about 10 laps before I had enough sand in my knickers to give it a go.

 

[benjoi84]

It's not the Jag, you clearly have harnessed the American Server Shield with your livery choice.

That was my first attempt at the A-race. I grabbed the GTO with the Aaron Judge livery, tuned it as best I could and gave it a go. Unfortunately MY American Server Shield (ASS) wasn't working and I was mobbed in Ascari. I honestly think my mobber just wanted to check out the livery. Pronoun stayed with me the remainder of the race like a pilot fish around a shark...just watching me race.

Went back to the "garage" and was able to gain a couple seconds in my QT, but in spite of that, once the race started, I was quickly outgunned. My best QT in the GTO was 12 seconds off your pace and the pace of most of the others. Regardless, it was fun and I got some love for my car and livery.

@Bullwinkle Curva Grande flat out at 149 mph in a '69 GTO - it took me about 10 laps before I had enough sand in my knickers to give it a go.

I find it a little upsetting that a tuning race at Monza isn't more suited to Ferraris than it is Corvettes and Mercedes

 

[Mercia]

I find it a little upsetting that a tuning race at Monza isn't more suited to Ferraris than it is Corvettes and Mercedes

honestly a bit of creativity and they could have limited the race to Ferrari's, even say pre-1980 Ferrari's and see what the best tunes turned out to be. They could do a Dodge v Chevy version at say Watkins Glen on a later week. Sport mode lacks this kind of theming and focus IMO.

 

[HickOnACrick]

I find it a little upsetting that a tuning race at Monza isn't more suited to Ferraris than it is Corvettes and Mercedes

Said Mattia Binotta...

 

[Talon16]

Said Mattia Binotta...

If PD was really on the ball, for anyone using a Ferrari they'd force a pit stop on the last lap for CH tires. #Ferraristrat

 

[MOPARbarrett5]

When Race A doesn't have DR and SR effects I think it would be cool if some weeks had shuffle racing like in GT5 and qualifying be based on total amount of Sport Mode races, which would give people more incentive to race and keep each race unique.

 

[OJBrit]

*Also, I like to honk at people.

I can see you as a goose. Rub it up the wrong way and you'll be running crying.

Calling am end to my week of dailies. Been running daily B and its getting a but messier as the week goes on. I like Daytona, but the flow of some of those Trial Mountain sections is too good to pass up. But more and more reckless and outright dirty drivers starting to nail their unicorn qualifying times and get higher up the grid to cause real trouble. Several good races but a couple real all stars just making it not worth it.
Including this wonder child:

Everyone there had a lot of patience. If I saw how well one driver was throwing others off constantly I'd happily take the 4 second penalty for sticking them into a wall.

 

[benjoi84]

@MOPARbarrett5

I've thought similarly, but I would suggest they kept the track, but keep rotating each day to a different one-make race. You could benefit from learning the circuit but have the chance to try different cars without the danger of being left behind for not using the META