New TT34 & DT34

[pentaxfun]

Nice run!

By the way, that reminds me. I'm sure it has been asked about/discussed many times in the past, but, I'm new here and am curious:

What viewpoint do most of the top guys on the leaderboard use when they drive. I'm sure it probably varies from person to person just like anything else, but I wonder if like 99% of them all use the same view, like, if one view tends to be better for the majority of people for setting a fast lap.

Personally I have always used the overhead view, where the camera is above and behind the car where you can see the entire car in front of you, and have never driven in the inside-the-car view, but, I wonder if this is normal, and whether I am hindering myself by using the view that I use.

 

[mike_gt3]

Broke the top 250, goal achieved I think I still have some time in it, but it's frustrating. One mistake and the car just loses it. 226th at the moment. Top 100 is my next goal.

Well done! keep it going:tup:

 

[ROYALEFATALE]

i use the hood view because it's close to the road like the bumper cam but doesn't shake around when you're braking or turning.

 

[Ealirendur]

By the way, not sure if anyone will find this useful or not, but, back during the very first few hours that the Nurburgring TT event was open on the April 18th, I decided to scan through the top-256 leaderboard to try to write down what types of non-2J cars were being run, and which of them were the best non-2J alternative, since I knew that by day 2 the leaderboards would basically be nothing but 2J's, and then it would be more difficult to figure out after the fact if I hadn't written it down while they were all still on the leaderboards on the first few hours of day 1.

Nice work!

I think the Dome really is quite a good car at that level - my 6'25 in it, very early on, was literally a first completed lap; haven't had a chance to try again.

I'm surprised there aren't more detuned R8 '01s or Bentleys in there; it's possible that their handling advantage is negated by the power limiting over the group C's (the Dome and, sadly, the trolololmobile, should be faster on the long sections). I'd be surprised if many other 600pp could keep up, but the ones noted are very good. The XJ13 and a few others should turn in decent times, as well ; I'll try some if I get a chance, but they'll be single test runs.

The Mobil 1 and Loctite should be close to the Dome; I'd be interested to see how the NSX LM Race could do in capable hands, too.

On my other account i have the Furai at 6:18, i think i could have gone very close to the NSX at 6:16, i think i'll try the xanavi Nismo GTR also, i could run faster lap than the Furai for the last nurburging 650PP a-spec race.

Happy to sling you a Dome to try, Mike

 

[Lustika]

Did alittle more tweaking to my 905 and knocked almost a whole second off my time at Spa. Now at 1:55.037. Pretty sure I can knock off alittle more. Got the car pretty much dialed in now, its just up to my driving skill, or lack there of, lol. Peace.

Thank you for sharing your tune I have just done 2 laps but with DS3 and I liked it. It will be fun to see what time I can do with my wheel later on. Do you want to share your new changes? It would be nice and I would be glad if you did.
I went in on place 407 with just 2 laps and very defensive driving and a lot of misstakes so with the wheel perhaps I can squeeze myself into top 100.

Thanks again and good luck to you and everyone else!!!!!

 

[mechyboy27]

I can't wait to get a wheel so I can crank out some sick times like these.

 

[pentaxfun]

I can't wait to get a wheel so I can crank out some sick times like these.

Yea, I used to think the same thing at first, but then I noticed on the previous TT's one guy (I think it was OneN1ghtStand, the guy that got in a fight with Mr.P just earlier, lol) finished in the top 10 on the Deep Forest TT last week with a DS3 controller using the sticks, and then on the London TT a whole bunch of people in the top 10 and leaderboard as a whole seemed to be using the DS3 controller with either stick or even directional buttons (although, this may have more been something to do with the fact that everyone was using a go kart, so that might just be a vehicle that works very well as a DS3 controlled vehicle)

And then, as for the Nurburgring, perhaps most impressively of all is mou-dame_kamo's 6:04.095 run, which was like 2nd or third on the top 10 list back when he put it up, and was actually not only just a DS3 controller (sticks) run, but even more incredibly was also done with an automatic transmission! So, it broke both of the "must have racing wheel"/"must use manual transmission" stereotypes about what one must do to have any shot at a top-10 time. In fact, even now several days later that auto transmission DS3 controller 6:04 run is STILL in the top-10 on the nurb tt in 8th place at this very moment!

So, I guess if one is skilled enough it is possible to run very fast leaderboard times, even top 10 times, with the DS3, and perhaps even with automatic transmission on some tracks! So even if you don't have the racing wheel, there's still hope!

 

[pentaxfun]

By the way, what are your guesses everyone as far as whether the 6 minute barrier is gonna get broken in this Nurb TT? Do you guys think it will, or not?

The fastest guy so far (Ti-tech) is still 1.8 seconds away from it, which, given how sick those top couple laps already are it looks like those last couple seconds will be a lot harder to shave than the previous couple seconds were, but, still seems like it is possible someone will do it maybe?

I think someone earlier who was in the 6:03's mentioned that they felt they could do a 6:01 low from the looks of their laps so far, presumably based on their best split times of various sectors, so, perhaps the 5:59.999 mark is within reach for one or maybe even several of the top guys by the end of this TT? Or do you guys think it will remain just barely out of reach?

Optional question: If you think anyone will even be able to do it, then, who do you think it will be that does it? (or, if you think multiple people will do it, then, who do you think will end up going the furthest under it?)

Hopefully this won't start any e-fights lol! Alright, post your opinions guys, I am curious what people think about this hahaha

 

[Mr P]

I don't think it will go under 6 mins by the end... I do reckon someone will hit a high 6'00 lap though Probably 1 of the top 3 guys at the moment

Just wont be me

 

[GTRufus]

The funny thing is, The TT of Nordschleife is way to easy to get gold. In GT4 however the Gold time License S16 was limited to 7:07 and you had to use the Mercedes 190 Evo Touring Car which had below 400PS and driving aids enabled and RSH (Racing Superhard) tyres

Now PD allowed us to take almost any racing car we want and even set the Gold time to 7:48. This is an incredible boost of 40+ Seconds in comparison of the S16 in GT4. The time trials of today are getting too easy in my opinion.

I wish more Time trials based on the S-License tests in GT4, which would be much more interesting.

 

[pentaxfun]

Yea, if I had to guess, I'd guess the same thing that it will probably end up converging somewhere around 6:00.5 or something, but, given how long the course is and how many corners it has, I feel like there is considerably more room for a totally crazy-fast lap if some guy happens to just nail all 73 corners and not have any corners that are significantly sub-optimal, that would end up going sub-6:00, possibly even by a whole second or something ridiculous maybe.

By the way, has there ever been an F1 car event in GT5 for the Nurburgring? I am curious what the fastest F1 time on The Ring in GT5 of all time is. I think in real life BMW estimated that their F1 car was theoretically capable of doing something in the low 5 minute range, but they never actually attempted it, other than some silly photo shoot promotional thing where Nick Heidfeld drove like 5 miles per hour and stopped his car for papparrazzi to take photos of the car or something ridiculous and didn't do an actual full, fast-lap at all on it. But yea, anyways I wonder how fast the GT5 people have gone on it with the F1 car.

Also, I noticed people mentioning some various other time trials events, someone mentioned some upcoming event this summer I think, and there have been references to various other stuff that happened in the past, of time trials that aren't just regular Seasonal Events Time Trials, but some other type of thing it sounded like, but, since I am totally new to all of this stuff, I have no idea what they are referring to, or where I can find the results or info about any of those other types of events, past or future ones for that matter. Could someone explain what they are referring to?

 

[Dazmeister22]

also there's a random FTO Super Touring Car in 6:27.590 by hoolidaz in 179th place

Woohoo, that was lil ol' me. Glad to get a mention. I used the FTO because it's a car I love to drive around the ring. I knew the 2J would be way quicker but I just wanted to see if I could get into the top 250 with the FTO before I had to switch over to the 2J

 

[mike_gt3]

Happy to sling you a Dome to try, Mike

If you dont mind i will for sure give it a try later in the week!
It would be for my non-GTP account. ''Mike_Peperni''

Thank you!

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Thank you for sharing your tune I have just done 2 laps but with DS3 and I liked it. It will be fun to see what time I can do with my wheel later on. Do you want to share your new changes? It would be nice and I would be glad if you did.
I went in on place 407 with just 2 laps and very defensive driving and a lot of misstakes so with the wheel perhaps I can squeeze myself into top 100.

Thanks again and good luck to you and everyone else!!!!!

Here is my final tune for the Peugeot 905 RC ''92 for Spa
700pp 916hp 900kg 99.7% power limiter
AERO 60/85
BALLAST 150/50
LSD 12/10/7
RH 10/-15
SR 11.0/11.5
EXT 8/3
COMP 8/4
ARB 7/6
CAMBER 0.5/0.5
TOE -0.10/0.16
BRAKES 1/5
TRANS
Reset FG-all the way right. TS-all the way left. Gear ratios. FG- 2.972
1st 4.158
2nd 3.035
3rd 2.307
4th 1.968
5th 1.675
6th 1.456
FG 2.972
TS 149mph Max speed at top should be 240mph
My time is 1:55.037.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Double post: For the reason, I ran out of characters on the above post. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I am very proud of the above tune as I have put alot of time and effort into it. In the right hands, I believe it to be a top 10 tune and it would be a thrill to see someone using it end up there. I'm just about at my skill level now, maybe another second and thats it. If my tune goes farther than me, well thats fine by me. At least I'll know I helped someone improve their time and thats good enough for me. Sometimes its not all about winning, but more about helping out someone else achieve their goals. Good luck everyone and hope I have helped someone out. Peace. \/

 

[tezster]

KB18FAN - thanks very much for posting your updated tune; I've been using it consistently in the past couple of days. Your setup has helped me get the most out of my limited driving skill.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

KB18FAN - thanks very much for posting your updated tune; I've been using it consistently in the past couple of days. Your setup has helped me get the most out of my limited driving skill.

You are welcome. I'm glad to see it has helped you out. Hope it helps you improve even more. Good luck and thanks for the compliment, its very much appreciated. Peace. \/

 

[ACL_13]

Here is my final tune for the Peugeot 905 RC ''92 for Spa
700pp 916hp 900kg 99.7% power limiter
AERO 60/85
BALLAST 150/50
LSD 12/10/7
RH 10/-15
SR 11.0/11.5
EXT 8/3
COMP 8/4
ARB 7/6
CAMBER 0.5/0.5
TOE -0.10/0.16
BRAKES 1/5
TRANS
Reset FG-all the way right. TS-all the way left. Gear ratios. FG- 2.972
1st 4.158
2nd 3.035
3rd 2.307
4th 1.968
5th 1.675
6th 1.456
FG 2.972
TS 149mph Max speed at top should be 240mph
My time is 1:55.037.

Hi, thanks for the tune 25th currently, and with a friends car and slitghly different gearbox (thanks colimatrix77 and GTOR)

 

[Lustika]

@ KB18FAN
Thank you for the tune. I will give it a try later this week.

I agree with you that it is nice to help someone get to their goals and I feel good to be one of those who's been helped by you. Very kind of you.

Take care

 

[roamer2629]

The funny thing is, The TT of Nordschleife is way to easy to get gold. In GT4 however the Gold time License S16 was limited to 7:07 and you had to use the Mercedes 190 Evo Touring Car which had below 400PS and driving aids enabled and RSH (Racing Superhard) tyres

Now PD allowed us to take almost any racing car we want and even set the Gold time to 7:48. This is an incredible boost of 40+ Seconds in comparison of the S16 in GT4. The time trials of today are getting too easy in my opinion.

I wish more Time trials based on the S-License tests in GT4, which would be much more interesting.

The last of the challenges of GT4 was the Mercedes Slr McLaren with sports soft if I remember correctly, the track filled with historic benze's.
Incredibly difficult to gold as I remember it...

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Thanks for the compliments guys and glad to see you're doing well. It does give me a sense of accomplishment knowing that I have helped someone out. Now, if I could get up there myself, life would be double great, lol. Gonna try some more laps later today. Pretty sure I got maybe one more second left in me, but thats about it. Physical therepy again today (got a new therepist yesturday, nice young blonde with nice breasts, lol) so I'm looking forward to this visit, lol. See ya in awhile. Peace. \/
EDIT: Just put the car online for anyone that don' have one and would like to use it. FR cargorat323. Just make sure you bring it back with a full tank of gas and no smoking in it, lmao!! Gotta go. Peace. \/

 

[eclipsee]

i'm just noticing while taking the same lines he's able to brake less and hang turns at a greater speed, that's the car not the driver.

Nope mate, there's where driving skills reside, the less you brake the faster speed you'll carry on and that's due to the driver skills, not the car setup.
For sure a great car setup will make your life easier but there wasn't any car setup in the last GT Academy and the guy finished first, this serves as enough backup for me.

Some people think they aren't as fast as others due to its poor car setup, if you're skilled enough and honest with yourself you'll know that's a lame excuse.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Nope mate, there's where driving skills reside, the less you brake the faster speed you'll carry on and that's due to the driver skills, not the car setup.
For sure a great car setup will make your life easier but there wasn't any car setup in the last GT Academy and the guy finished first, this serves as enough backup for me.

Some people think they aren't as fast as others due to its poor car setup, if you're skilled enough and honest with yourself you'll know that's a lame excuse.

Just a quick reply to that. Sure, skilled is highly involved here but if you want to hold that corner that you're braking less into, you have to have a setup thats going to hold that corner at the higher speed. No disrespect to you as you are a highly skilled driver, but I think the setup plays a very important roll in it. Ok, really gotta go now. Peace. \/

 

[Mr P]

I have had a good few laps against the 1st place driver this morning and many times held the lead all the way to the dreaded wall that Amo made contact with... then this Ti-tech guy goes into a whole other league! I lose heaps in the Karousel and a couple of tenths in every one of the last sections until the finish line level halway through the lap to 2 secs down at the line

It's defo skill but its all at the back end of the lap for sure! If I can hang with him in the early part of the lap then it aint the best of starts to his lap and he should be able to speed it up there and knock another second of his overall time imo 👍

 

[Ofuscor]

I managed to get on the leaderboards on Nurburgring but I get the feeling that some of the faster guys around the globe aren't giving this TT a try or they don't have the car. I got 95th a few hours ago. I never managed to stay on the leaderboard until the end of a TT. Best so far was 257 with the Dome, I got trolled by GT5 that time.

I think I was 10/11 seconds slower than the leader it's way too much. It's hard to drive this bouncing fridge.

 

[GTmaniac]

I have had a good few laps against the 1st place driver this morning and many times held the lead all the way to the dreaded wall that Amo made contact with... then this Ti-tech guy goes into a whole other league! I lose heaps in the Karousel and a couple of tenths in every one of the last sections until the finish line level halway through the lap to 2 secs down at the line

It's defo skill but its all at the back end of the lap for sure! If I can hang with him in the early part of the lap then it aint the best of starts to his lap and he should be able to speed it up there and knock another second of his overall time imo 👍

yep as i said. 6.00 is very posiblle...I like titechs's setup as he can be way more agressive on the curbs with it. hiiting the curb for me usualy ends in red lap or significant loose of time.

as for me i'm still doing stupid enduros to get the oil done. might try spa in the process and get back to nurb tomorrow...

 

[eclipsee]

Just a quick reply to that. Sure, skilled is highly involved here but if you want to hold that corner that you're braking less into, you have to have a setup thats going to hold that corner at the higher speed. No disrespect to you as you are a highly skilled driver, but I think the setup plays a very important roll in it. Ok, really gotta go now. Peace. \/

I'll go beyond what I said, this man, not just won the last GT Acamemy online stage, this man has won ALL GT Academy online stages that have been celebrated so far, if he is only 3 tenths faster so far than the second in a 6 minutes track it's due because he didn't push very hard or he doesn't have a very good car setup.

I really don't care what you think about me but respect is expected for sure.

 

[RHODRIEWILLIAMS]

Here is my final tune for the Peugeot 905 RC ''92 for Spa
700pp 916hp 900kg 99.7% power limiter
AERO 60/85
BALLAST 150/50
LSD 12/10/7
RH 10/-15
SR 11.0/11.5
EXT 8/3
COMP 8/4
ARB 7/6
CAMBER 0.5/0.5
TOE -0.10/0.16
BRAKES 1/5
TRANS
Reset FG-all the way right. TS-all the way left. Gear ratios. FG- 2.972
1st 4.158
2nd 3.035
3rd 2.307
4th 1.968
5th 1.675
6th 1.456
FG 2.972
TS 149mph Max speed at top should be 240mph
My time is 1:55.037.

ok i am new to gt5 is it front brakes 1 rear 5???

 

[Lustika]

Front 1 and rear 5. You got it right.

Welcome to GT Planet

 

[Ofuscor]

Yeah Rhodrie the balance is 1 on the front and 5 on the rear.