Official Shift 2 Rants Thread (Vent away in here)

[Imari]

My mistake but I still feel like they shouldn't have allowed this or shift 1 to be releases.

Of course. Then instead of having two games that have multiple flaws but that people still somehow find enjoyable, we'd have nothing. That'd be much better.

Damn, I think my keyboard was stuck in sarcastic mode.

There's no one with a gun to your head making you buy bad games. At least if EA release the game you have a choice. If they hadn't released it, then all of us who actually like the game would be screwed. Which is hardly fair.

 

[AngloAmerican]

There's no one with a gun to your head making you buy bad games.

Im not sure about others, but i tend to look up reviews online before i make a purchase. Not once did i see anything about the issues in S2U im experiencing. Makes me wonder if they do actually play the games they are supposed to be reviewing.

Ive felt for a long time that this side of things (reviewing games) is kinda shady, and after my experience with S2U, it just puts the icing on the cake for me. You just cannot trust reviewers reviews of the games no more.............period.

AA

 

[Imari]

Im not sure about others, but i tend to look up reviews online before i make a purchase. Not once did i see anything about the issues in S2U im experiencing. Makes me wonder if they do actually play the games they are supposed to be reviewing.

Ive felt for a long time that this side of things (reviewing games) is kinda shady, and after my experience with S2U, it just puts the icing on the cake for me. You just cannot trust reviewers reviews of the games no more.............period.

AA

I hear you can't trust used car salesmen either.

Anyone who stands to gain something by espousing a certain opinion should have said opinion seriously questioned. Game reviewers get to maintain their flow of games by giving positive reviews. They get SFA if they tear a game to shreds by being brutally honest about it.

Reviews are untrustworthy, they only give you the positive aspects. Fans of other games are untrustworthy, they only give you the negative aspects. Unbiased parties are often hard to identify. If you wish to be well informed before buying a game, you must read information from all these sources and collate it into a whole description of the true state of the game. It's not easy.

 

[BasherB59]

So what you're saying is in effect "TRUST NO ONE" !!!

Or read all of the reviews & listen to everybodys opinions & then try to average them all out ?

Hmmmm
Basher

 

[arvore]

So what you're saying is in effect "TRUST NO ONE" !!!

Sounds good advice...

 

[NLxAROSA]

Not strictly a Shift 2 rant, but more of an EA rant: why are they selling the PC version of this game on Steam and on Origin for 50 euro, while I can pick up the physical copy at my local store for 20? Mind you, you can just enter the code from the physical copy into the Origin client and it will happily download and install the game for you, instead of using the disc.

 

[RACECAR]

Here's something I just found out: With the release of that DLC content for the PC version, supposedly they have ended development and post release content for Shift 2 on all platforms. So expect no more content, patches or fixes ever.

 

[plate88]

Here's something I just found out: With the release of that DLC content for the PC version, supposedly they have ended development and post release content for Shift 2 on all platforms. So expect no more content, patches or fixes ever.

Wouldn't surprise me the least bit.

EA's the masters at three things:
1. Withholding content for dlc releases.
2. Very little if any suppport for their games.
3. Rehashed sports games every year.

It's a shame really. EA is one of the biggest gaming companies, but at the same time is one of the worst gaming companies as the years have gone on. Blah, just my opinion.

 

[boomee]

wow i have to say though I like shift 2 and I will keep it for awhile so much for the big talk of it being a gt5 killer.all the big talk and hype before the game No sure I may trade it in just not sure yet

 

[arvore]

It's a shame really. EA is one of the biggest gaming companies, but at the same time is one of the worst gaming companies as the years have gone on. Blah, just my opinion.

Yep,mine too.
They seem to aim at the "fast food" gaming market and expect gamers not to play their products long enough to unveil all the bugs and flaws they have.

 

[Vaxxtx]

wow i have to say though I like shift 2 and I will keep it for awhile so much for the big talk of it being a gt5 killer.all the big talk and hype before the game No sure I may trade it in just not sure yet

To be honest, it was a GT5 killer to some. I play it everyday. I have not touched GT5 in a looooong time. And most likely wont play it much again...if at all. I wont go into reasons to stir up a vs. debate, but at least the people on my friends list (most anyway) seem to agree.

Yep,mine too.
They seem to aim at the "fast food" gaming market and expect gamers not to play their products long enough to unveil all the bugs and flaws they have.

This right here. Hurry, rush, get it OUT! Wash hands. Ok, next project? If what EA support has said to me "The studio is working on a patch" is true...I will be surprised, and actually give EA some credit.

 

[b1rdman973]

Tried online for the 1st time today. What a disappointment.

Maybe it's because I just played now (1pm east coast time), but there was literally only 2 other people online. So I did a 3 player race.

I used my lancia delta (upgraded it to about 860 points), against a guy with a similarly upgraded golf and a guy in a lotus.

Lotus driver quit during the 2nd of 5 laps because the golf driver kept crashing into him. I was out in front by a sizable margin.

Then the golf driver caught up to me after I took it too slow through some turns. He proceeded to ram the back of my car on a turn, even though he could've slid right under me. I end up crashed in the grass, he of course drives away scot free and wins.

The two of us did a rematch, and he bumped/crashed me three more times, but I was able to recover or catch back up. At the last turn I was ahead, he caught me on the straightaway, and bumped me again even though he could have flown right past me. For some reason he slowed down then like 50 ft from the finish, so I rammed him out of the way and reversed my way over the line.

It's great that the only aspect of the game for me that would give it replay value involves basically no one online racing, and the only online drivers driving like it's a demolition derby.

 

[Vaxxtx]

Tried online for the 1st time today. What a disappointment.

Maybe it's because I just played now (1pm east coast time), but there was literally only 2 other people online. So I did a 3 player race.

I used my lancia delta (upgraded it to about 860 points), against a guy with a similarly upgraded golf and a guy in a lotus.

Lotus driver quit during the 2nd of 5 laps because the golf driver kept crashing into him. I was out in front by a sizable margin.

Then the golf driver caught up to me after I took it too slow through some turns. He proceeded to ram the back of my car on a turn, even though he could've slid right under me. I end up crashed in the grass, he of course drives away scot free and wins.

The two of us did a rematch, and he bumped/crashed me three more times, but I was able to recover or catch back up. At the last turn I was ahead, he caught me on the straightaway, and bumped me again even though he could have flown right past me. For some reason he slowed down then like 50 ft from the finish, so I rammed him out of the way and reversed my way over the line.

It's great that the only aspect of the game for me that would give it replay value involves basically no one online racing, and the only online drivers driving like it's a demolition derby.

More races going on than you think. Get some people here that actually race clean, add them to friends list. Join a league, or set up nightly races yourself. Post it here...enjoy.

This should be a rant about idiots online not S2. Happens in all racing games.

 

[FLX1981]

I just tried GT1 races for the first time and tbh I hate it. The hard AI is completely beyond any reason for those. I needed an average of 15 restarts to even once survive the first 3 corners without getting rammed off, sucked off the track by cars on the outside ramming into me, shunted, twisted around and cut off. In the race at Road America one of the AI Opponents in an Aston rammed me off deliberately while I was going in a straight line between turn 1 and 2! I watched the replay, I went straight on and he rammed into my rear left on purpose! For no reason, it was even before the braking point and the racing line was on the other side of the track - I was hunted down!!!

Also the bug that the braking lights of the AI cars dont light up in the first lap and the mini framerate stutters are really terribly often now. The braking lights not lighting up is of course especially helpful in night races - along with the seemingly random braking distances of AI cars. Some curves its half the length of your braking distance, other curves its twice as long.

With all those things and the tbh completely garbage and sometime straight up illogic way the Mazzer MC12 behaves, it actually wasnt much fun.

 

[FLX1981]

And another one, I tried to have a driver duel with arvore which you cant do. Seems like you cant race friends in that game mode. Which is very
👎👎👎 and makes grumpy FLX very grumpy now!

 

[TheEdge]

SHIFT2 UNleashed is a piece of completely ****T, it should be titled ****2 Unleashed. I have this game and will never ever bought any game made by this company.

 

[arvore]

Well, but look at it from the bright side...at least You can play the bass!

 

[ussr]

SHIFT2 UNleashed is a piece of completely ****T, it should be titled ****2 Unleashed. I have this game and will never ever bought any game made by this company.

But when everything seems to be alright, this game is not that bad. Not so good as first shift but much better than boring GT5. I noticed that vast majority of bad word about this game, is coming from PS3 users. Thats due to programming problems ps3 gives development companies. 👎

 

[NLxAROSA]

I noticed that vast majority of bad word about this game, is coming from PS3 users. Thats due to programming problems ps3 gives development companies. 👎

I think this is true. I own both PS3 and PC versions of Shift 2 Unleashed, and the difference is like night and day. The PC version is by far superior.

 

[ussr]

It's not the first time that PS3 version of released game is the worst of (PC, X360, PS3)

Currently I'm playing Fallout 3 GOTY and there is way too many freezes and other issues. I know mine friends didn't had those problems on PC and X360. Also I've read some of the programmers opinions about programming PS3.

Sadly after releasing Play-station 3 Sony didn't do anything to make creating games any easier.

Probably that's why we have so many patches :/

 

[176OES]

im not sure if anyone has mentioned this but OH MY GOD THE NURBURGRING IS S**T!!! i know it off by heart in gt5 (a respectable time of 6:52, no aids) and have gone around it in real life on one of the public days... shift's one is almost fictional

REALLY???

Whilst I have never been to the track in real life, I found Shifts version to be far more impressive than GT5's for one huge reason:

The sensation of elevation... it really does feel like you are going uphill and downhill. GT5's rendition of the track by all comparison might as well be 2 dimensional (I exaggerate, but you get the point)

 

[theotherspongey]

The only thing I dislike of Shift 1 and 2, is the handling....its SOOO slippery!

 

[musomaniak]

HeHe just came across this question in the general faq on E.A. website ----

Have you had "real gamers" test the game?

I can assure you that we had a wide range of sim racers play the game at least once a week. We ran test after test, week in and week out for months. It's normal procedure when creating games.

Yeah right we believe you .

 

[176OES]

Perhaps the question should have read: Have you had Gran Turismo fanboys test the game?

 

[Animal_Mother]

The only thing I dislike of Shift 1 and 2, is the handling....its SOOO slippery!

Well sure it seems slippery, because you can't put super soft racing slicks on your street cars. My GT1, GT3, and most of my works cars stick to the ground pretty well though. For the others that slide around, well that's what happens when you give a street car 1000+ hp, you end up going faster than the suspension and tires can handle. On the flip side, I think GT5's street cars stick too much and I find that I have to downgrade the tires to get what I believe to be a realistic level of handling. Oh, and to be on topic: Dammit! My game still freezes every time I play!

 

[JediRage]

I really liked the game at first, but that was probably due to the ease of driving the slower cars.

For over two months, I've been stuck at the London event which has two races there. Not to say I've been trying it everyday, but in a tuned Corvette Z06 I still can't turn the car precisely (using a DS3). I switched from experienced physics to normal and still there is no noticeable difference. The input lag (which isn't noticeable on the slower cars) was unmanageable before the patch and it still is as fas as I can see.

The car seems to handle like a boat (like GRID), actually, it feels like I'm trying to steer a submarine. Unbelievable.

A total mess of a game.

 

[grahamw56]

You talking about career mode ?

I used the Gumpert for the London races, with Terronium's settings.

Tricky, but perfectly possible with maybe just a couple of re-starts because of pile-ups at the first bend.


If this does not apply...please ignore.

 

[FLX1981]

Well, I d say its the vette... hate to drive that car. But I feel its more like a caroussel everytime you touch the throttle than like a submarine. Did you increase steering lock? From my experience, 27-30 is needed for those tight city tracks.

 

[JediRage]

Well, I might try it with the wheel lock change, but I've race modded a Maserati and it's not much better (and that too at Spa).

Btw, won't the Gumpert be overkill?

 

[grahamw56]

I quite like the ZO6...straight out of the box is fine for me.

The Gumpert I find has the best brakes, which in-game and 'real life' (I should be so lucky ) is just as important, if not more so than acceleration.

I find the easiest way to get past the AI on any track is by out-braking them.

This was the my first attempt on Laguna Seca with a Z06, but possibly different to the one you're using ?

Unfortunately I'm limited to Autobox with downshifts only at present, as my upshift paddle on the MS wheel has broken.

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