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Should PD have let the modding slide? ... OP Updated.
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No, a modder should be able to do anything. Add Mario Kart bananas for all I care. However there needs to be something in the game to allow non modders and modders to separate themselves if they wish to be separated (or if the mods reach some extents that they can't interact).
That is quite honestly no worse than realistic swapping. Modding is modding, and being realistic does not make anyone more or less noble.
Banning is unnecessary, I agree, but there aren't enough room control options. There never have been. This is something PD needs to fix.
An engine swap does not mean that the car will be screwed up completely. It would not be anywhere near as bad as putting a 400 lb ballast on your bumper, which GT5 lets you get away with.
The short of it is, a lot of engine swaps are as realistic as the stock cars in game. Yes, many factors or missing, but not just from the engine swaps, from GT5 itself.
Like I said, you can do completely insane things with ballast and not suffer. Beyond that, if you did swap engines and it caused problems, then you just need to modify the rest of the car. So even if a Civic that just had a V-8 dropped into it would be uncontrollable, that doesn't mean that those high powered Civic in GT5 and controllable are pure fantasy.
All simulators work within bounds because making something 100% realistic is difficult. Make no mistake, GT5 is a sim, but it's not breaking ground for realism in its default state.
I'm sure the 5 Sauber C9's I own are illegal too in many places. So Are Viper ACR-X's, and people own those in real life.
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Real hackers would have won this thread by now.
hogger129
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The only Shelby Mustang that ever had the 5.8-liter (351) V8 in it was the 1969-1970 GT350.
I wonder if he meant the newest model in the game with the 5.4-liter engine. That is basically what the Shelby GT500 is in that body style (5.4-liter V8 - I think 550hp - with a 6-speed transmission).
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5.8L just started in 2013 with the 650hp, it was always 5.4 before that with 540-550
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The winner gets a hacky sack.
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Are they the same block, with different bore/stroke?
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Been running a lot in 550pp lately, and now im suspected of cheating because of my laptimes, thx to the hybrids
See what i mean.. This is what we have to look forward to.
Some of you claim that the game was getting boring and that this has brought new life to it.
In previous GT games that weren't hacked, if you got bored of it, you'd take a break form it or move on and wait for the next one to be released.
The reality is that there are people who have not had GT5 for the same length of time as the bored people seem to have had it. There are such people who are at earlier stages of the game and who are not bored of the game at all. Personally, i'm not ready for GT6 because there are some things in the game i still have not completed. Unfortunately, i'm now feeling pressured in to getting GT6 earlier than i would've liked simply because GT5 has been ruined by bored people spoiling it for others.
In terms of expecting hosts to merely set pp, hp, etc, to keep the hacked cars out, it seems some people have missed what was discussed earlier. Cars that are hacked cleverly can circumvent any restrictions applied. Apparently, one can even change the tyre grip-level without changing anything else and we hosts would never suspect how dubious the car is.
Furthermore, you can't blame PD for not providing hosts with enough means of control. The reality is it wouldn't matter how many restrictions a host could use to control a room, the hackers would always be able to find a way to circumvent them. All restrictions do now is inconvenience fair people from using legitimate cars of their choice.
But hey.. Just like any druggie or criminal, their illegal activities are always everyone else's fault but their own!?
As for the ridiculous notion that if we don't like it, we shouldn't go online, what that means to me is that legitimate users of the game should limit themselves from using certain features of the game because others are exploiting some loophole. In a nutshell, we are expected to punish ourselves because others are breaching Sony's terms of use!
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If you're going to whinge and whine about how Hybrids have ruined your game as opposed to living with it, setting restrictions and using the Kick Function, then yes. If we learn to live with it, as opposed to shunning them, fearing them, and despising them, the outbreak will ease. If we integrate them, allow them when sensible, and where sensible, people will stop circumventing restrictions and bring million hp cars when they arent wanted. They'll accept restrictions and start playing by the rules. Same as the X2010's. Not as common in unrestricted rooms, are there? We've learnt to live with them by setting restrictions and such, now they arent used as often, even in unrestricted lobbies. Learn to live with it until PD Fixes it, or dont put yourself in a position where it will affect you until PD fixes it. Simple as that.
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You can't integrate them because there is no base to go by anymore. Before the hybrids you knew for a certainty what the limits were with tuning. You knew if the guy beside you lined up in an NSX Type R 02, that he was actually in that car, had no front downforce and a maximum HP possible. Now you could be lining up against a GT500 NSX that looks like a Type R 02 and you have no clue. For whatever reason the PP system just is not working well with hybrids so you can no longer rely on that. And you can't use HP and weight because that guy who looks like he's a street Supra, he's actually in a GT500 car and you don't know it.
PD has to find a way to limit them in online lobbies. Not necessarily eliminate them, but at least provide hosts with a way to exclude them from participating if they so choose.
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How does that rule out the HP and weight system? Cant see why that wouldnt still be applicable?
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i agree with johnny, you cant say, thats why i got suspected of cheating i guess.
later tonight there was a girl with a pink Golf R '10, with 2780hp from what she said, she refused to run something else, she couldnt understand what was wtrong with using it, its simple, we said NO hybrids or leave, she finaly left but she was angry...
later tonight there was a girl with a pink Golf R '10, with 2780hp from what she said, she refused to run something else, she couldnt understand what was wtrong with using it, its simple, we said NO hybrids or leave, she finaly left but she was angry...
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I brought up the wrx because it had a super clear advantage in a wide pp range, it was available to everyone, gaining the know how to set it up was silly easy to find, the way lobbies where back then you could not filter anything or anyone, yet, it didn't come anywhere close to ruining the game.
A bit annoying is all and usually simply changing the time cycle you ran on would get yourself clear of it.
It took way less effort to use and didn't brake the tos as near I can tell.
A bit annoying is all and usually simply changing the time cycle you ran on would get yourself clear of it.
It took way less effort to use and didn't brake the tos as near I can tell.
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At first hybrids are were just one car. Also they are legitimately available via gift. 
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