week 4 driving skill competition - cobra 427 @ cote d'azur

[LMP787B]

Via USB. I'll see if i can get someone to put it on youtube. For now, Ivan can check it since he has found a way of using my file. And after he declares it clean, i would like an apology from all the doubters/haters please.

I wouldn't say people were hating on you, they were just so surprised by how quick your lap was, but still it was a little harsh on you.

 

[Mac K]

Via USB. I'll see if i can get someone to put it on youtube. For now, Ivan can check it since he has found a way of using my file. And after he declares it clean, i would like an apology from all the doubters/haters please.

Apologize for what? Not like anyone said you cheated or anything.

 

[Misunderstood]

We are not spoiling it for you, you are spoiling it for us!

I must say that I seriously do doubt that time!

I don't think you intentionally cheated or you wouldn't have posted a time so far off ours but you are used to playing with SFR and TC and you come and blitz our times by 4 secs with NO AIDS???

I would bet your SFR and TC were still on or you were on RS tyres and not SS!

Love to see your replay and I think we qre justified in wanting to see it, hell if I'd done a time that fast I'd want the world to see it so seeing as your reluctant to show it then that further adds to the doubt!

If any of us was fastest and we got asked for replay we would show it, why wouldn't we?
We need Frontal system / Timpaq to see what they get

I 100% sure misunderstood's time is somehow illegal. As you can see here on TT's, I'm curently 58. and +2.200 behind the 1st. Dont tell me you are 3.500secs faster then me, prove it or your lap is invalid.

Apologize for what? Not like anyone said you cheated or anything.

You are right they didn't. But they were not nice towards me and made me feel bad.

 

[LMP787B]

You are right they didn't. But they were not nice towards me and made me feel bad.

I am sure nobody competiting in this competition would intentionally make you feel bad, it may have come across as mean but they were simply surprised by your lap time. Anyway i'm sure they are sorry if it appeared as if they came across in a harmful manner 👍

 

[Mac K]

Well that's not cool, I thought you were talking about me to be honest, nevermind. Not sure why their panties are in a bunch

 

[phil_75]

So has anyone watched the replay where it says he's using SS tyres and no aids?

OK8 who is a master in the Cobra gets 43's...hmmm!

 

[Rotorist]

Driver: Rotorist /Rotorist
Time: 1:45.065
Transmission: Manual
Controller: DS3
ABS: 1

 

[Rotorist]

Well that's not cool, I thought you were talking about me to be honest, nevermind. Not sure why their panties are in a bunch

3 secs down is a big distance man. It is logical to ask you a replay.

 

[adeadsnipermatt]

It's so funny doesn't believe 41's are possible I'm easily getting 42's now with mistakes, I'm trying to get the perfect run any lap now to get into the 41's.

 

[soulite55]

And after he declares it clean, i would like an apology from all the doubters/haters please.

For future reference, if you want no "doubters/haters" then upload a replay or just snap a picture of your screen with the original post. You kind of asked for it when you posted a time that was noticeably faster than everyone else's and said you didn't have to prove it.

 

[ivann]

So has anyone watched the replay where it says he's using SS tyres and no aids?

I watched both replays. In second replay there are no bumps, he's using SS and no aids. And he is driving very good.
I think we just have different opinions on that chicane. I read the ORL and by that rules he is clean. I personaly think its not, and maybe I am wrong. The thing is that he drives with left tyres on the rumble strip and right tyres of the track which gives much faster way through that corner. On my replay if anyone has watched (I would like you misunderstood to watch it then you'll see what I mean) I drive left tyres on the track, and right's on the rumble strip (you know, like in real racing, F1 for example) and that is much slower way.
All in all I'll continue to drive "my way", I have .500 faster in my hands and I think that he would be faster then me even if he takes chicane like me.
I dont think I should apologize to you misunderstood, we just have different opinions on that specific rule, you are good driver and I'm wondering why dont you try TT's.
That's all, good luck to all competitors.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Regarding comfort hards...Fun, yet tortuously undrivable

Will be running heaps of laps this week as this car is very rewarding If patience is effectuated.

Surprisingly I found driving on Comfort Hards on quite a few cars very drivable, something like the F40 can be driven very well on them. I wonder how the Yellowbird goes on them in GT5, don't think I have tried yet.

Since my previous lap had indeed one small touch after T1 and i was slightly cutting the chicane i made another effort.

This is a ''clean as a whistle'' but very sloppy lap of 1'41.044 and it is my second best lap so far. I will not be uploading my best lap replay until the event is finished, because i don't want the competition to know what they are up against.

PS. According to the GTP OLR, you must have at least 2 tires on the rumble strips at all times, so i'm clean through the chicane.

If I put and two together, we know who I would say and Dan will most likely give you good competition for the top time and Timppaq if he participates as you may well know. I predict you will do a time in the low 40s, high 39s going by one of your previous posts so that is letting know what the competition is up against, unless you got more time in the bag?

 

[phil_75]

Misunderstood : If that lap is good, and only you know if it is good then all I can do is take your word and congratulate you on one hell of a lap.

It is not personal, whoever can do 1.41's I want to see a replay because it is hard for me to understand how its possible and after seeing OK8's lap of 1.43.7 and you go 2.5 secs quicker than that I gotta see it, I can't see where he could go much faster than he did!

I speak for myself not the rest of WDSC!

 

[phil_75]

Totally off topic: Holden Commodore SS '04 with Sports exhaust = OMFG! Best sound in GT5! (With surround sound on)

 

[TomBrady]

Hi guys, welcome to week 4 of the driving skill competition. This is the new weekly competition where driving skill is everything. Each week a stock car and track is chosen the car CANNOT be tuned or modified in anyway as to give an advantage over others.

This week is the Cobra 427 at cote d'azur and tyre choice is SPORTS SOFT. All aids are to be turned off except ABS on 1. Transmission choice is down to you.

Brake balance can only be adjusted if you are driving with ABS off, if you are using ABS on 1 you must keep the default brake balance.

This is an offline competition and you can do anytime, just choose the car through arcade mode then select the track. Everybody Is free to enter.

Please send in your best lap time stating whether you used ds3 or wheel (lap must not have gone red).

Its time to show your skill and race! Good luck everyone thanks for the support! Any questions just PM me and i'll get back to you ASAP! Enjoy!

When sending your times in please could you use the following format:

Driver: GTP name/PSN name
Time:
Transmission: Auto/Manual (if manual state whether clutch used)
Controller: DS3/wheel
ABS:
Brake Balance: Front/Rear (only applicable if ABS is off)


The leaderboard can be seen by clicking on the following link:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtZwhhnVjEYTdG5KQ0lGelZYeXFOTHdORC0zai1qRUE

After the huge success of the previous weeks it would be great to get as many people racing this week. So get out on that track and have fun!

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I love the idea but if you really want to challenge peoples skill, use lower grade tires.

Totally off topic: Holden Commodore SS '04 with Sports exhaust = OMFG! Best sound in GT5! (With surround sound on)

thanks for the info, I'll have to try that car out.

 

[TomBrady]

Surprisingly I found driving on Comfort Hards on quite a few cars very drivable, something like the F40 can be driven very well on them. I wonder how the Yellowbird goes on them in GT5, don't think I have tried yet.

Agreed. It depends on the car but some cars can actually be easier to drive on crappier tires. Usually the very tail happy, hard to control cars like the ones you mentioned, lancia stratos, lp640 and lotus elise. The reason is mainly that the lower grip of those tires mean you'll be driving much slower when you lose grip, and therefore it will be much easier to recover. It's the same reason you don't see people drifting on racing softs. On higher grip tires, if you lose grip, you would probably be going so fast that it can be very difficult or impossible to recover, so cars like the lambo LP640, or Ruf yellow bird are actually harder to drive on racing tires than comfort tires. Just try the stupid Grand Tour in the special events, do the race at toscana road course with the lambo lp640, and you'll see what I mean, that cars much harder to drive on racing mediums than it is on sports hard or comfort hard

Heavy, understeer prone cars are harder to drive on comfort hards though. Any car that's difficult to keep on the road will be tougher to drive on comfort hard, like the audi rs6 avant, BMw m5, any truck, Leno's Tank Car, or maserati GT are really heavy and are tough to drive with comfort hards because they don't have the turning ability to match their straight line speed.

 

[OK8]

Surprisingly I found driving on Comfort Hards on quite a few cars very drivable, something like the F40 can be driven very well on them. I wonder how the Yellowbird goes on them in GT5, don't think I have tried yet.

Agreed. It depends on the car but some cars can actually be easier to drive on crappier tires. Usually the very tail happy, hard to control cars like the ones you mentioned, lancia stratos, lp640 and lotus elise. The reason is mainly that the lower grip of those tires mean you'll be driving much slower when you lose grip, and therefore it will be much easier to recover. It's the same reason you don't see people drifting on racing softs. On higher grip tires, if you lose grip, you would probably be going so fast that it can be very difficult or impossible to recover, so cars like the lambo LP640, or Ruf yellow bird are actually harder to drive on racing tires than comfort tires. Just try the stupid Grand Tour in the special events, do the race at toscana road course with the lambo lp640, and you'll see what I mean, that cars much harder to drive on racing mediums than it is on sports hard or comfort hard

Heavy, understeer prone cars are harder to drive on comfort hards though. Any car that's difficult to keep on the road will be tougher to drive on comfort hard, like the audi rs6 avant, BMw m5, any truck, Leno's Tank Car, or maserati GT are really heavy and are tough to drive with comfort hards because they don't have the turning ability to match their straight line speed.

I agree with you completely. Comfort hards really hilight understeer and very tail happy cars like the Yellowbird are always possible to drive it's just up to the driver, but with understeery cars there's not much you can do.

I also agree with why low grip driving is more fun, with racing softs it's difficult to recover at such high speed and the driving experience in general is more boring.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=239329 here's some hotlaps I did a while ago (including Yellowbird). Most are driven by me but a couple are by others.

 

[Ronald6]

I think that's why most of the tyres in this competition have been sports. I hope and am confident that LMP and NJ will continue to pick tyres appropriate to the car / track flow.

 

[HDHSVI]

NJ72 et all

Thanks for the reply – somewhat of an explanation and an apology for coming across so hard. I was well, just a little frustrated.

I’d probably run 30 to 40 laps trying to just get a respectable time in. I think I had maybe 2 that actually counted – where the timer had not turned red. For the life of me I cannot control that car. I wanted to get a time of around 1 min 50 to 53-4 would have been just fine for me. Thus the little rant…..

At times when you read the board every day you don’t realize that just because you read others peoples posts and you come to “know” them doesn’t mean they have any idea who you are…..

Next, there really is a difference in the game when it has not been updated? Yes or no, and to which direction does the game get harder or easer?

Well between Drs Appointments, tests etc, and work I’m just now getting to sit down give it another go….

Cya,
Hankster

 

[phil_75]

The physics changed with the spec 2 update but I wouldn't say it were easier or harder than before, just slightly different!

With respect OK8 and Tom Brady not all of us are comfortable on CH tyres, I for one find spinning, understeering and hitting every barrier on CH tyres no fun at all and as unrealistic as RS on Road cars!

I do understand what you mean though, especially the Toscana Lamborghini on RH - only special I can't gold (Excluding Seb vettel)

Maybe one week we should try though just to see?

I would just like all cars to come on their stock tyres though, CS and SH I can handle!

 

[LMP787B]

Thanks everybody for all the feedback! If anybody would like to suggest car/track combos with the appropriate tyres please PM me!
Next week I will choose worse tyres than this week to keep everybody happy! Keep putting in the laps!

 

[Ronald6]

I've heard several people suggest Deep Forest. I second the track. But what car would be good on DF using SH? I already tried the Tesla roadster, its almost impossible to spin out. Any good MR on the arcade list?

 

[NJ72]

I've heard several people suggest Deep Forest. I second the track. But what car would be good on DF using SH? I already tried the Tesla roadster, its almost impossible to spin out. Any good MR on the arcade list?

I believe there's an Elise on the list. Put some CS on that and that should be challenging yet drive-able?

@HDSVI no worries man. I feel your pain. I like to think of myself as an above average driver, but Monaco frustrates me a fair bit because I lack consistency on it. I think I've put in about 25 laps with only 4 or 5 being white, then only 2 being "clean" I.e. no wall bumps...

Perhaps in coning weeks we could try something 4wd (evo, impreza etc) on something relatively grippy? I find that driving something like that on good tyres really teaches me the correct lines to take. But people seem to be enjoying the lower grip events for now

 

[Woodski_427]

I've heard several people suggest Deep Forest. I second the track. But what car would be good on DF using SH? I already tried the Tesla roadster, its almost impossible to spin out. Any good MR on the arcade list?

If Deep Forest is chosen, can we make sure there are clear rules about corner cutting and wall hitting to avoid another series of claims an counter claims?

I know this started off as a bit of fun but as more people get involved, there seems to be more need to lay out the rules!

Still haven't had a proper go at the Cobra yet, but the Mrs is out Friday night do I should get a few hours of wheel time...

 

[LMP787B]

If Deep Forest is chosen, can we make sure there are clear rules about corner cutting and wall hitting to avoid another series of claims an counter claims?

I know this started off as a bit of fun but as more people get involved, there seems to be more need to lay out the rules!

Still haven't had a proper go at the Cobra yet, but the Mrs is out Friday night do I should get a few hours of wheel time...

Yeah will lay more rules down next week! Have fun with the wheel on friday! I'm glad the competition is growing in interest! I wonder if we will ever get 50 entrants in a single competition!

 

[NJ72]

Yeah will lay more rules down next week! Have fun with the wheel on friday! I'm glad the competition is growing in interest! I wonder if we will ever get 50 entrants in a single competition!

I feel the easiest way to do it is use the OLR. That covers pretty much all aspects of corner cutting etc but we add in that ANY wall contact will cause a time to be dirty, regardless of a time going red

 

[no1pal]

I feel the easiest way to do it is use the OLR. That covers pretty much all aspects of corner cutting etc but we add in that ANY wall contact will cause a time to be dirty, regardless of a time going red

What is the OLR?

 

[adeadsnipermatt]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=111241

 

[Ronald6]

ORL = Oregon Racing League? Jk

I'm down with no wall touching at all.

But personally I would prefer that the inside tyres cannot go past the line indicators. Having your two inside tyres on grass and the outside tyres on the rumble strip is cutting far too much. Just my 0.02.

Edit:
I am currently "cutting" just as much as everyone else but only to stay competitive. End edit.

@LMP: I can see us having 50 competitors in a few weeks. Word will spread.

Edit 2:
But I would be content if no one else joined who has not already put in a time for any of the competitions. There are some fantastic drivers here and I could spend all my time learning from them.

Edit 3:
Update
Ronald6 / Ronald657
1:44.890
DS3
Auto
ABS: 1
SS: 6. Grip: Low. Damage: None. Car color: red with white stripe.

After trying for 2 hours I finally beat my time. I was consistently in the 45s and low 46s, but I couldn't reach past that threshold. I'm gonna take a break and rub some ointment on my aching hands.

 

[no1pal]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=111241

Thanks.

ORL = Oregon Racing League? Jk

Did some laps today, and was not at all close to my personal best First sector I was often in front, but was to slow on the others.
I guess I have one of those "off" days.
Hope it will be better tomorrow