2015 Grand Prix de Monaco - All Results in OP
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Lose the race due to incredibly bad call to pit at the hardest track to overtake?
Hamilton's fault. He should've demanded new race strategists as part of his new contract.
Hamilton's fault. He should've demanded new race strategists as part of his new contract.
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MERCEDES WON THE F'ING GP and the Sky commentators are behaving like Rosberg just took a picture of the queen in the shower! This is pathetic from Sky.
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A couple things:
1. Verstappen, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE!
2. What the 🤬 NBC, we don't want to see soccer right now! They said come back at 5PM for the usual post race show! Luckily I found a Spanish channel, but that had voiceovers so it was hard to hear.
3. It is really hard being an Alonso fan.....but not so hard being a Rosberg fan
4. I'll come off as a sadist saying this, but seeing Lewis like that feels pretty good, even if it's kinda cheap/borderline unjust/etc.
5. Vettel: "Oh I'm happy though"
1. Verstappen, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE!
2. What the 🤬 NBC, we don't want to see soccer right now! They said come back at 5PM for the usual post race show! Luckily I found a Spanish channel, but that had voiceovers so it was hard to hear.
3. It is really hard being an Alonso fan.....but not so hard being a Rosberg fan
4. I'll come off as a sadist saying this, but seeing Lewis like that feels pretty good, even if it's kinda cheap/borderline unjust/etc.
5. Vettel: "Oh I'm happy though"
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- mustafur
Words are words, you can see the sense of acheivement he feels.
That is what im talking about.
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Huge point loss for Hamilton in championship that may end up costing him the championship. I think he has something to be upset over, on for a dominant win, team gamble on 1-2 and race win for Lewis without a comfortable gap and without competitor pitting. Would have been better for Lewis to get call not to change tyres and just do a drive through if no Ferrari crew out in pits if they are so marginal and so crazy to risk it.
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I find Nico Rosberg's spanish even funnierDaniil Kvyats spanish is also kinda funny.
Why? he did win the race, doesn't matter the way he won, winning is winning.
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Lol because the car was capable of winning that race in 2013.
The emotions for 3rd and 1st are not equal.
Well i wouldn't go that far, because he did win the race.
I just felt like he went abit over board on the celebration like it was a middle finger aimed at Hamilton.
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That has absolutely nothing to do with what you implied.
But yes I agree, Nico should absolutely hand in his license and revoke the win. He totally didn't earn or deserve it, in fact he should have stopped just short of the finish line and given the position to Lewis so he would have only been one position down instead of two.
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No, you wouldn't. Also why should he? It's not his fault that they screwed Hamilton's strategy.
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Because pitting someone from the lead and certain victory is the same as being told to do something that still requires something for you to do (pass).That has absolutely nothing to do with what you implied.
But yes I agree, Nico should absolutely hand in his license and revoke the win. He totally didn't earn or deserve it, in fact he should have stopped just short of the finish line and given the position to Lewis so he would have only been one position down instead of two.
It's not even remotely comparable.
Also i never once mentioned anything saying regarding Rosberg not being the winner, because facts don't lie.
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Hindsight makes it look retarded, but even that the time it would of been risky as they are in front without a certainty of being ahead of the 2 cars behind.
I don't feel like this was planned with any sort of accuracy.
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Hamilton also had fresher tyres and huge pace advantage over the cars behind for the whole race at that point, all three had good tyres to the end without safety car, let alone with one. The margin I don't think was ever big enough to pit and come out in front, I'm surprised they would gamble and with all data and systems they have, how they got the maths wrong I never know. I was really surprised to see them pitting Lewis, how did he get such a huge gap to Nico to do that I was thinking...
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Mercedes has no way of knowing what Ferrari would do - especially if one or both made a late call.
As for Rosberg, why were Mercedes under any obligation to tell Hamilton what Rosberg intended to do? You're assuming that Hamilton's engineers were in a position to know that detail, but there is nothing to say that Rosberg's engineers had to share it. Especially if they knew Hamilton was contemplating a stop.
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I've read lot of messages implying Mercedes strategists are dumb.
It's easy to judge a strategy after events, but things are not that simple in race context:
1. When you're P1, the best strategy is to copy your rivals one.
2. On Safety Cars release, Mercedes didn't know if others would pit - at this moment, J. Villeneuve said on TV that a lot of cars were going to pit because old tires are very hard to get on right temp after SC.
3. Mercedes needed to make a quick call, wait to see what others do would have put Hamilton in greater danger anyway because they can catch up under SC.
Mercedes (or Hamilton) just have to make a blind bet, and they loose it.
It's easy to judge a strategy after events, but things are not that simple in race context:
1. When you're P1, the best strategy is to copy your rivals one.
2. On Safety Cars release, Mercedes didn't know if others would pit - at this moment, J. Villeneuve said on TV that a lot of cars were going to pit because old tires are very hard to get on right temp after SC.
3. Mercedes needed to make a quick call, wait to see what others do would have put Hamilton in greater danger anyway because they can catch up under SC.
Mercedes (or Hamilton) just have to make a blind bet, and they loose it.
