FM Vs GT - Discussion Thread (read the first post before you post)
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Well, that was certainly interesting.
On the losing end of an argument? Claim unfair bias and casual disinterest towards the topic being discussed!
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- Chicano3000X
- Chicano3000
So is the GT series dead?
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- Chicago
- Moe Camel
Nope. Why would it be?
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- Chicano3000X
- Chicano3000
Only if you want it to be
I dont want it to be. But can GT recover? That has me wondering. Forza seems to be the new racing king and so many jumped ship. I'm reluctant to because the series is pretty much part of my childhood.
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I dont want it to be. But can GT recover? That has me wondering. Forza seems to be the new racing king and so many jumped ship. I'm reluctant to because the series is pretty much part of my childhood.
They both have things to offer. If I had a PS3 I'd get GT5 too.
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- Moe Camel
I dont want it to be. But can GT recover? That has me wondering. Forza seems to be the new racing king and so many jumped ship. I'm reluctant to because the series is pretty much part of my childhood.
It's like a bunch of Ford guys, Chevy guys, and Mopar guys, standing with thier cars in a parking lot, all arguing who's cars are the best. Doesn't matter if one of the groups' cars all suddenly decide to explode, all at exactly the same time, the hardcore guys of that group will still insist they're driving the best.
I wouldn't worry.
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It's like a bunch of Ford guys, Chevy guys, and Mopar guys, standing with thier cars in a parking lot, all arguing who's cars are the best. Doesn't matter if one of the groups cars all suddenly decide to explode all at the same time. The hardcore guys of any group will still insist they're driving the best.
Just had to bring Ferrari into it didn't you.
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- Silberc
- Silberc
Plus that's a demo.....
We could go over problems with GT5P?
But then again that was a demo released as a full game, instead of well, you know a demo.
We could go over problems with GT5P?
But then again that was a demo released as a full game, instead of well, you know a demo.
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According to Dan demo and full game steering are the same. But I think a fix is in the works.
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The difference?
GT5P wasn't even beta code of the final game.
FM4 demo is final code with cut down content.
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- Silberc
- Silberc
Because problems are being brought up like they are set in stone.
The game is not even out yet, there is time for last minute patches.
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- Chicago
- Moe Camel
By internet on release day, yes, possible, but I won't be surprised if it takes a bit longer. We'll see though. I can wait a bit otherwise.
- 770
Patches and changes take a lot more time and effort than you think they do.
If the demo was available 1-2 months before release? Maybe but the demo was released 10 days prior to release. The time to fix the problem itself and other issues that have popped up (the super glare cars for example) plus the time it would take for certification.
I doubt we will be seeing any sort of update until at least a month after release and that's if T10 even decide to fix it.
If the demo was available 1-2 months before release? Maybe but the demo was released 10 days prior to release. The time to fix the problem itself and other issues that have popped up (the super glare cars for example) plus the time it would take for certification.
I doubt we will be seeing any sort of update until at least a month after release and that's if T10 even decide to fix it.
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- Moe Camel
+1
Yeah, that's what I ment by a bit longer. They'd really have to do a rush job, bypass procedure, and do a bit of finger crossing to have it out on release.
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- HamiltonMP427
I think the problem here is the Demo should have been out much sooner than it was for FM4, but GT5P was out a year before GT5 and it still needed heavy patchwork before people became happy with owning the game.
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- jabofu
- DAG JaboFu
The demo was the E3 code, with some additional cars and rivals mode. I doubt that we will see big changes in comparison to the final game, but we will know next week.
It wont definetly be any different in the graphics department.
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There's hope for a day 1 patch. Forza 3 had a day 1 patch, so maybe Forza 4 will too.
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It did? The gear shift animations were part of the first patch and as far as I can remember it was a couple weeks after launch.
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- GTP_Spag69
- spagetti69
FyreandIce
You are right that it wasn't day one. Very soon after though.
Oddly. As a cockpit user I never even noticed they were not using there hands to change gear until somebody told me.
After that it bugged the hell out of me. Buy it wasn't long before fixed.
One thing is for sure is that certification for this patch won't have as much red tape to go through. Microsoft will just roll it though the process a lot quicker.
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Oopsie. My rather frank return to gt5 impression appears to have caused a fanboy to implode. Anyway, perhaps I should expand on my original post.
I am a bike race mechanic in my spare time, my rider was struggling in the club championship we were running in so I moved in with him to be more involved in the team time wise. He isn't what you would call an avid gamer; hasn't owned a console since a ps1. He has sat with me, played some fm3 and was enthralled by the fm4 demo along with other games on both consoles, but I sold gt5 before I moved in with him so he has never seen it being played, isn't on forums so he is essentially free of bias. All he knows is the adverts and hype for gt5 from me talking about it before it was released.
So I fired the game up and it dld the updates and reloaded my game. I went straight into the photo travel with my lambo in the cafe scene. First words out of his mouth 'holy ****, that looks better than forza' which it does. Then I went to do a snow rally as it was the event I was halfway through when I lost interest and using a premium subaru it booted up and he said, 'jesus Christ, that looks like v rally on the ps1'. Which made me laugh so much I missed the start of the rally. It kind of sums up the enigma of gt5 really, it can go from unbelievably glorious triumph to crap mediocrity in the space of a couple of menus. so yeah still plan on grinding through it a bit more, but when forza 4 comes out it's in danger of looking very dated, to me at least.
I am a bike race mechanic in my spare time, my rider was struggling in the club championship we were running in so I moved in with him to be more involved in the team time wise. He isn't what you would call an avid gamer; hasn't owned a console since a ps1. He has sat with me, played some fm3 and was enthralled by the fm4 demo along with other games on both consoles, but I sold gt5 before I moved in with him so he has never seen it being played, isn't on forums so he is essentially free of bias. All he knows is the adverts and hype for gt5 from me talking about it before it was released.
So I fired the game up and it dld the updates and reloaded my game. I went straight into the photo travel with my lambo in the cafe scene. First words out of his mouth 'holy ****, that looks better than forza' which it does. Then I went to do a snow rally as it was the event I was halfway through when I lost interest and using a premium subaru it booted up and he said, 'jesus Christ, that looks like v rally on the ps1'. Which made me laugh so much I missed the start of the rally. It kind of sums up the enigma of gt5 really, it can go from unbelievably glorious triumph to crap mediocrity in the space of a couple of menus. so yeah still plan on grinding through it a bit more, but when forza 4 comes out it's in danger of looking very dated, to me at least.
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- bryphotoguy
- BryCivicSi
Here are my smoke and snow filled shots. I did ZERO editing to mask any pixels.
Ford GT, STI in the snow
Well, you did catch me there. I don't watch replays and I use the "bumper cam" so I don't sit and stare at all the dust/ snow/ etc... coming off my car. But just for the sake of this discussion, I will take a closer look at different car angles and watch some replays after work. Cause if I am so wrong, I would like to be corrected. BTW, you did quote me in saying there is pixelation when photographing so I am not sure why you don't think I believe that.
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- Duisburg
You can, of course, alyways select an angle at which the smoke or snow won't cause the car to appear pixelated.
What it does, though: It forces you to go with an angle at which it doesn't. I've done that myself to get some pixelation-free shots with smoke somewhere.
You can, of course, reply that you wanted to use nothing but that specific angle and no other, of course. You could also reply that you wouldn't ever want to use one of the numerous angles at which the pixelation becomes appearent,
I, however, do. I don't want to always make sure the smoke is between the car and the camera. At times, I want the car to be between the camera and the smoke. Because, to me, that would be a better photo. And as soon as I want to do that - bam, pixelation.
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- bryphotoguy
- BryCivicSi
Would you like me to quote myself a third time? I know it happens at certain angles, maybe most angles as I have said before. The poster I replied to makes it seem like that happens at almost all angles which simply isnt the case.
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