Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio de España 2022Formula 1

[XJ40]

Here are the updated qualifying averages:

Leclerc +0.005
Verstappen +0.239
Sainz +0.308
Perez +0.331
Russell +0.917
Bottas +0.981
Hamilton +1.189
Gasly +1.270
Norris +1.282
Ocon +1.293
Alonso +1.303
Magnussen +1.549
Ricciardo +1.635
Tsunoda +1.693
Schumacher +1.728
Zhou +1.789
Stroll +2.099
Vettel +2.301
Albon +2.406
Latifi +3.180

I find this info really useful, Schumacher is just 2 10ths behind Magnussen (who I never rated as a driver but has been pretty handy this time around), and Perez just a tenth behind Verstappen. Surprised to see Alonso behind Ocon...

 

[Samus]

Let's ignore the bait posts from a certain user folks, don't want every F1 thread turned into silly arguments.

Surprised to see Alonso behind Ocon...

He didn't get a proper final lap because of traffic, but still, Alpine are not looking too good.

 

[EDK]

Here are the updated qualifying averages:

Leclerc +0.005
Verstappen +0.239
Sainz +0.308
Perez +0.331
Russell +0.917
Bottas +0.981
Hamilton +1.189
Gasly +1.270
Norris +1.282
Ocon +1.293
Alonso +1.303
Magnussen +1.549
Ricciardo +1.635
Tsunoda +1.693
Schumacher +1.728
Zhou +1.789
Stroll +2.099
Vettel +2.301
Albon +2.406
Latifi +3.180

Bottas has to be so happy.

 

[Liquid]

Russell +0.917
Bottas +0.981
Hamilton +1.189

Wow, what a double whammy.

"George is fastsr than you."
"Lewis, it's James..."

 

[IcySlivers]

I’m excited to see Mercedes make a come back in the race.

 

[Magog]

I’m excited to see Mercedes make a come back in the race.

They have a good chance of finishing where they started but as this is the first race they are competitive at I could also see Hamilton taking out himself and Russell with an ill advised pass attempt in some mid-field corner.

 

[lancia delta hf]

I believe like in Miami Lapo Elkann, Brother to Ferrari Executive Chairman John Elkann.

4 times awarded as best dressed man by Vanity Fair

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The rut of the family. He's the best one though, he's not like them.

 

[Veinz]

I believe like in Miami Lapo Elkann, Brother to Ferrari Executive Chairman John Elkann.

4 times awarded as best dressed man by Vanity Fair

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It looked like he snorted a few rails in the bathroom during qualy. Binotto was also looking very uncomfortable with that hug from him 😂

 

[McLaren]

The Green Bull story continues; Aston Martin is now the one surprised Red Bull came up with a similar design.

He said the team were surprised to discover Red Bull had produced a concept along similar lines to what they were already developing.

“If you look at the development of the car that is sitting out there right now you’ll see that this has all happened towards the end of last year. Before we’d seen anybody we were on a dual path.

“It came as a shock, a surprise that Red Bull came out with a similar concept, as well. But I think that just reinforced our feeling at the time that of the two paths that that we had open to us, we’d gone the wrong way. And I think that was confirmation of that.”

Red Bull team principal Christian Horner said on Friday they will conduct an internal investigation into whether information from their team could have arrived at Aston Martin. He said it is down to the FIA to ensure no such information passed between the two teams.

“It’s the job of the regulator, the FIA, because they have the access and we rely very much on them to ensure that there is no transfer of IP, that there has been no abuse of that,” said Horner. “So it’s very much their job to go and police that.”

However Green pointed out the FIA had already visited his team’s factory and verified they had designed their update themselves.

“I don’t know what these accusations are that Red Bull are kicking about,” said Green. “All I can say is that at no stage did we were receive any data from anyone.”

“The FIA came in and did a thorough investigation, examined all the data in the history of this car, they interviewed all the people involved and concluded that it was completely independent development.

Aston Martin were "surprised" Red Bull produced similar car design

Aston Martin say Red Bull's claims they copied the design of the RB18 for the upgrade they introduced this weekend are "very wide of the mark".

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[Famine]

Here are the updated qualifying averages:

Leclerc +0.005
Verstappen +0.239
Sainz +0.308
Perez +0.331
Russell +0.917
Bottas +0.981
Hamilton +1.189
Gasly +1.270
Norris +1.282
Ocon +1.293
Alonso +1.303
Magnussen +1.549
Ricciardo +1.635
Tsunoda +1.693
Schumacher +1.728
Zhou +1.789
Stroll +2.099
Vettel +2.301
Albon +2.406
Latifi +3.180

Can you help me out with how these work?

I was just looking at the numbers for Mercedes, given the car's improvement this weekend, and I was surprised to see that you had this for post-Miami:

Russell +0.985
Hamilton +1.105

Then both cars go faster this weekend (RUS +0.643, HAM +0.762), but Russell's average only sneaks down by 7 hundredths (should be at least a tenth as this is race six) and Hamilton's average increases, which it obviously shouldn't do as he was four-tenths ahead of his average so far...

Russell +0.917
Hamilton +1.189

I'm also curious how you're handling Q1/2/3 times as I can't follow it; is it all times compared ot Q3 pole, or Q2 eliminated compared to Q2 fastest/Q1 compared to Q1 fastest?.

Ocon's in the Saudi post with an average gap of +1.046. That would be his average if you took his Q3 time at SAU and his Q2 time at BAH compared to the fastest in Q2 (which is what I'd do).

However Norris is in the Saudi post with an average gap of +1.451. That would be his average if you took his Q2 times at both BAH and SAU compared to pole in each case; compared to the fastest in Q2 in each, like Ocon's BAH time, it would be +0.935.

Hamilton also jumps out, as his Saudi Q1 elimination should either make his average over 1.4 seconds (0.68 + 2.15/2) or around 1.0 seconds (0.68 + 1.49/2) but the post has him at 1.3.

And then there's the Emilia Romagna race, where Q3 was wet and pole was eight seconds slower than the Q1/2 times. I've no idea how you handled that

 

[Dreadmed]

If this was any other year (and a bit later in the day!), I'd tentatively suggest a drinking game wherein you take a shot everytime Crofty slips in a reference (veiled or not) to the football taking place a couple hours later. I'm convinced there's going to be at least one...

 

[PeterJB]

Can you help me out with how these work?

I was just looking at the numbers for Mercedes, given the car's improvement this weekend, and I was surprised to see that you had this for post-Miami:

Russell +0.985
Hamilton +1.105

Then both cars go faster this weekend (RUS +0.643, HAM +0.762), but Russell's average only sneaks down by 7 hundredths (should be at least a tenth as this is race six) and Hamilton's average increases, which it obviously shouldn't do as he was four-tenths ahead of his average so far...

Russell +0.917
Hamilton +1.189

I'm also curious how you're handling Q1/2/3 times as I can't follow it; is it all times compared ot Q3 pole, or Q2 eliminated compared to Q2 fastest/Q1 compared to Q1 fastest?.

Ocon's in the Saudi post with an average gap of +1.046. That would be his average if you took his Q3 time at SAU and his Q2 time at BAH compared to the fastest in Q2 (which is what I'd do).

However Norris is in the Saudi post with an average gap of +1.451. That would be his average if you took his Q2 times at both BAH and SAU compared to pole in each case; compared to the fastest in Q2 in each, like Ocon's BAH time, it would be +0.935.

Hamilton also jumps out, as his Saudi Q1 elimination should either make his average over 1.4 seconds (0.68 + 2.15/2) or around 1.0 seconds (0.68 + 1.49/2) but the post has him at 1.3.

And then there's the Emilia Romagna race, where Q3 was wet and pole was eight seconds slower than the Q1/2 times. I've no idea how you handled that

Here's a screenshot of my data table:

It's based off whatever the fastest time in qualifying was, regardless of whether it was the pole lap. I've also taken each driver's fastest lap, regardless of which session it was set in. And as you can see I decided to ignore Imola because track conditions were different in every session.

 

[Veinz]

Lando is not feeling well, time for Hakkinen to make a come back.

 

[MagpieRacer]

If Verstappen wins today he will have the same number of wins this season as Leclerc has had in his whole F1 career (4).

 

[Jimlaad43]

If this was any other year (and a bit later in the day!), I'd tentatively suggest a drinking game wherein you take a shot everytime Crofty slips in a reference (veiled or not) to the football taking place a couple hours later. I'm convinced there's going to be at least one...

Empty your glass every time he mentions Sky Glass.

 

[GroupB]

Empty your glass every time he mentions Sky Glass.

It’s esecially stupid in countries where the service doesn’t exist.

 

[Veinz]

Track temp almost at 50 c🔥

 

[Dreadmed]

Empty your glass every time he mentions Sky Glass.

I'd need a liver replacement by the end of the year...

 

[Jimlaad43]

Wow, quite a lot starting on the Softs. They must have decided that if we're having to 2 stop, may as well start on the Softs anyway.

 

[McLaren]

Wow, quite a lot starting on the Softs. They must have decided that if we're having to 2 stop, may as well start on the Softs anyway.

Didn't they say everyone but Hamilton is starting on the Soft?

 

[Jimlaad43]

Derp driving by Magnussen there

 

[PaMu1337]

Didn't they say everyone but Hamilton is starting on the Soft?

Welp, Hamiltons tires did not last long


I'd say racing incident, but more on Magnussen than on Hamilton

 

[Dennisch]

Lewis' luck of the champion is definitely gone. That hit would never been damage in the previous years.

edit.

He sounds depressed. That radio message was just sad.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Ahh Carlos. Man he really is falling apart at the moment.

 

[Liquid]

Lewis Hamilton really channelling 1995 Nigel Mansell with his "Can I just retire, please?"

 

[PaMu1337]

Oof Carlos...

One hell of a move by Alonso

 

[Dennisch]

This really isn't Sainz year. Jebus.

 

[Jimlaad43]

Carlos sighs

 

[NICKname]

Hamilton punting off someone overtaking him round the outside, Sainz spinning off into the gravel, very predictable race so far.

 

[nostradavor2]

Sainz is just not good enough to be a Ferrari driver IMO