GT6 "80% finished", GT7 expected in "a year or two" + other info

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Lets keep bickering for pages and pages of what full HD is in a game played on a display that none of us have any control over its technical capabilities or incapabilities.

We have no control over anything regarding Gran Turismo. Should we not discuss it?
 
Why do people not like the percent 80%.

I like it and find it assuring that ill get the game when they said it will come out. Especially as they already said the main stuff is done and that there doing just polishing.

-.-
 
I don't know some of you are wanting native 1080p with a system that has 256Mbs of RAM and a 3.2(x1) GHz Processor. Do you want to lag? Your cell phone can run 1080p better than your PS3. :P LOL

iPhone 4: 512 MB of RAM, 1(x2) GHz
iPhone 5: 1024 MB of RAM, 1.2(x2) GHz
Nexus 4: 4048 MB of RAM, 1.5(x4) GHz processing power.
300$ AMD WIN PC: 4048 MB of RAM, 3.0(x2) GHz processing power
3200$ I7 PC: 37144 MB of RAM, 3.4(x16) GHz processing power(cooking. lol)

I dont know why they didn't put 512 MB or 1024MB in the PS3 in 2006, as its very cheap, and would improve its specs quite dramatically and the 360(a Year older) had 512 MB and my 2005 Win PC came with 1024MB(now has 3070MB). Sony why you 2003 in 2006? :|

You kidding? I run GT5 in 1080P all the time, so why not GT6? :)
 
You kidding? I run GT5 in 1080P all the time, so why not GT6? :)

No you dont, you run GT5 in 1280x1080(Stretched into 1920x1080), real 1080p starts in 1920x1080 :P

GT6 will supposedly run in 1440x1080(stretched into 1920x1080) which is closer than GT5 was.
 
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No you dont, you run GT5 in 1280x1080(Stretched into 1920x1080), real 1080p starts in 1920x1080 :P

GT6 will supposedly run in 1440x1080(stretched into 1920x1080) which is closer than GT5 was.

I don't care either way.....generally, it looks good to me soooo there's that. General look and feel trumps specs in my book 👍
 
Honestly, they could've left the same graphics of GT5 and I would've been fine with it. Sure, a bit of optimizing here and there but, if the GTA/6 demo is anything to guide us by, it'll still be far from perfect, still have issues and thus will still attract crowds of unsatisfied people. And if they're going to sacrifice stability or FPS for higher resolution, then by all means leave it like it is in GT5.

The only thing I did want them to improve graphics-wise, is the one thing they didn't: Getting rid of the hideous Standards or at least convert the better half of them or so to premium and ditch the rest. Their jagged, PS2 looks are awful and are the laughing stock of gaming inside and outside the simracing community. If nostalgia is all that matters, then by all means include all the cars from GT1 and keep them in their original quality as well because "then we'd have more variety".

I don't need photo-realistic graphics to feel engaged, as I said GT5 was fine for me. Sadly, the entire illusion shatters when I have a very good-looking track and I'm driving a very-good looking car but I have to overtake a graphical relic from the early 2000s that just ruins the scenery 👎.

Quality PD, quality over quantity. Lack of consistency just looks like plain mediocrity, even though your team is made up of some of the most brilliant guys in the industry.
 
"Quality over quantity"

It very much depends on the quantity of the quality, and, indeed, the quality of the quantity. But then how do you even measure quality?

The Standards are not there as a replacement for anything, by the way (so there is no trading of quality with quantity with them). They are purely additional. At least, they were - who knows what they've done with (some of) them for GT6.
 
No you dont, you run GT5 in 1280x1080(Stretched into 1920x1080), real 1080p starts in 1920x1080 :P

GT6 will supposedly run in 1440x1080(stretched into 1920x1080) which is closer than GT5 was.

You are wrong. 1280x1080 native is exactly 1080p native. The clue is in the number 1080.
 
GT5 and GT6 are already in 1080p native.
^What he said.
GT5 is 1080p natively rendered. Always has been.
The vertical line figure is not measured just the horizontal.
GT5 is 1080p native. 1080p is 1080 horizontal lines, progressively drawn. It has nothing to do with the 1280 you are quoting.
I'm not claiming it's "Full HD", which is known as 1920x1080.. But it is unquestionably native 1080p.
It's also fair to say it's mixed area of common acceptability and technical fact.
You are wrong. 1280x1080 native is exactly 1080p native. The clue is in the number 1080.

Yeah. Technically correct is the best kind of correct and all that. Got it.


No you dont, you run GT5 in 1280x1080(Stretched into 1920x1080), real 1080p starts in 1920x1080 :P

GT6 will supposedly run in 1440x1080(stretched into 1920x1080) which is closer than GT5 was.

Also what GT:HD ran at; but GT6 is pushing a lot more effects. Pretty impressive that they pushed it back up.


You are right and techically it's correct, but still, 1080p has a pretty specific meaning in the world of gaming. What GT is doing is rather misleading. Imagine games starting rendering in all sorts of crazy 640x1080 etc. resolutions just to advertise 1080p in the back of the box. It might be correct, but I wouldn't feel right about it.
Which isn't too terribly far removed from how GT4's "1080i" mode worked. 540p image field-rendered (stitched together in alternating screen updates) into what is technically a 1080i image.
 
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The Standards are not there as a replacement for anything, by the way (so there is no trading of quality with quantity with them). They are purely additional. At least, they were - who knows what they've done with (some of) them for GT6.

Sort of. I assume if they knew that there were going to be no standard cars in game then it would have had some effect on which cars they chose to make premium.
 
Sort of. I assume if they knew that there were going to be no standard cars in game then it would have had some effect on which cars they chose to make premium.

Standard cars would be painful to see on a 4k display. Just as SD programming will from satellite or cable providers.
 
I dont think there will be standard cars in gt7.

Nobody thought there would be standard cars in GT5 in 2008 (ie. two years before it was released) either. It's a Pandora's Box that once they've started recycling assets like that there's no telling what they'll do.
 
Nobody thought there would be standard cars in GT5 in 2008 (ie. two years before it was released) either. It's a Pandora's Box that once they've started recycling assets like that there's no telling what they'll do.

Standard cars didn't even exist back then. It's impossible to expect something that you don't even know exists. As for future GT titles, as more and more premium models are being made, the reasons for including standard cars would get fewer and fewer.

I still think the standard cars served their purpose well in GT5, i.e. to add some diversity and to allow for the shuffle racing feature. I feel sorry for those whose eyes are still bleeding, but all of them will probably move on to next gen consoles now anyway so it looks like a happy ending for everyone.
 
Standard cars didn't even exist back then. It's impossible to expect something that you don't even know exists. As for future GT titles, as more and more premium models are being made, the reasons for including standard cars would get fewer and fewer.

I still think the standard cars served their purpose well in GT5, i.e. to add some diversity and to allow for the shuffle racing feature. I feel sorry for those whose eyes are still bleeding, but all of them will probably move on to next gen consoles now anyway so it looks like a happy ending for everyone.

The name didn't exist. When GT5 was announced to have a thousand cars, there was serious discussion about whether they would be able to do a thousand cars at GT5P quality. The idea of importing GT4 cars was kicked around about that time, but no one really believed it.
 
Yes.
You got it.

What he is referring to, the standard, is 1920x1080p. Something less or more than 1920 lines is not what he meant nor what is it understood by everyone when they think of 1080p.

So yeah, another marketing trick just like the amount of cars. In reality GT5 ran at a substantially lower resolution than 1080p (as in 1920x1080) and there were no more than 150 unique cars (different from each other) that were up to the current standards of the time.
 
What he is referring to, the standard, is 1920x1080p. Something less or more than 1920 lines is not what he meant nor what is it understood by everyone when they think of 1080p.

So yeah, another marketing trick just like the amount of cars. In reality GT5 ran at a substantially lower resolution than 1080p (as in 1920x1080) and there were no more than 150 unique cars (different from each other) that were up to the current standards of the time.
Gt5 ran in 1080p in 5:4 (closer to 6:5) format just like a lot of Blu-ray movies runs 2:1 format. This is why you will see a black bar at top & bottom of the screen.

The reason the horizontal line is given is they are more noticeable than vertical ones. Most gamers would probably never knew Gt5 was running in 6:5 format if they didn't read about it.

1080p most of the time only refers to the "signal" itself. This is why Xbox 360 games has 1080p listed on the back of the box. Not all 1080p signals are the same. For example Netflix 1080p movie can actually be a lower quality than a DVD copy.

By the way 720p also refers to the signal and not the HDTV resolution which most are 1360 x 768.
 
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Gt5 ran in 1080p in 5:4 (closer to 6:5) format just like a lot of Blu-ray movies runs 2:1 format. This is why you will see a black bar at top & bottom of the screen.

The reason the horizontal line is given is they are more noticeable than vertical ones. Most gamers would probably never knew Gt5 was running in 6:5 format if they didn't read about it.

1080p most of the time only refers to the "signal" itself. This is why Xbox 360 games has 1080p listed on the back of the box. Not all 1080p signals are the same. For example Netflix 1080p movie can actually be a lower quality than a DVD copy.

By the way 720p also refers to the signal and not the HDTV resolution which most are 1360 x 768.

Indeed, which is exactly why everyone should be wary of getting all the information, not just half of it (or less).

"Everybody knows that 1080p is just that". And yet, in reality there is no real standard. How odd. It is advantageous for the manufacturers of hardware and for purveyors of "soft"-ware (e.g. DVD or streaming movies) to maintain this ignorance and general confusion at a certain level, of course.

Those letter-boxed movies would surely benefit from those pixels being used on the scene, not the black bars, right? Sure, video compression, but it only goes so far and is far from perfect.
 
there were no more than 150 unique cars (different from each other) that were up to the current standards of the time.

Well, what exactly is "unique"...

And those cars weren't "up to the standards of the time", they set the new standard.
 
Well, what exactly is "unique"...

And those cars weren't "up to the standards of the time", they set the new standard.

Not really. The standard had already been set by GT5P and FM3. GT5 looks better, but not radically better. The GT5 premiums were merely adhering to the standards of the time, not defining them.
 
mcalva98
Quick question, is there going to be a new trailer and new stuff shown in a couple of days? If so when?

There is like a 99.86467% chance of a new trailer at TGS on Sunday.
 

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