SNAIL Tuner and Team Series III - S15 RM Challenge - Sign-ups Open

[Oshawa-Joe]

Spooble - I PM'ed you the set up for Leguna. Test it out and let me know what you think. For the most part the car actually handles so well that it was hard to improve it, but I think you will like it!

Just in cases the regs weren't clear, the only thing we can do is RM the car, oil change, add adjustable LSD, and then tune the car. That is it.

 

[Turbo91stdcivic]

Hill's # is 1..... turbo's # is 81..... and car color is gray pearl tuned by hill

 

[OwensRacing]

Sorry for being late getting back to you all. Busy. Honestly after this weeks failed attempt at getting time to tune. I am afraid to make someone rely on me with outside influences preventing me from GT5 time.


I want to tune but afraid I won't have Time.


I'll try this week to make a slot to get cars dialed in. Send the tune out and go from there.


. Monday night manuals I have to run in this. First ever series was H S R L using stick and clutch. Lusted for another series like that since.

 

[Vol Jbolaz]

Owen, don't worry too much. We haven't gotten our tune, yet, either. I'm thinking this is just turning out to be a busy time of year.

This week is Laguna Seca, and I'm hoping to get on the track tonight to figure out the number of laps.

 

[Oshawa-Joe]

Any other teams need a tuner?

 

[Oshawa-Joe]

Hey Vol,

I'm new to tuning and did a bunch of testing. I have a major concern regarding the regulations and fair play. I know we are all honest sporting gentlemen, but I think the rules need to be looked at.

I think you should allow all parts to be added except ECU, turbo upgrades, and engine upgrades. Those 3 types can be easily verified by looking at the HUD redline and turbo boost level on the turbo gauge.. All intake and exhaust should be allowed as they are impossible to check and make a huge difference in lap times at same HP and pp because of the big increase in bottom end torque.

 

[IceWarden]

Can aero be changed?

 

[Vol Jbolaz]

Hey Vol,

I'm new to tuning and did a bunch of testing. I have a major concern regarding the regulations and fair play. I know we are all honest sporting gentlemen, but I think the rules need to be looked at.

I think you should allow all parts to be added except ECU, turbo upgrades, and engine upgrades. Those 3 types can be easily verified by looking at the HUD redline and turbo boost level on the turbo gauge.. All intake and exhaust should be allowed as they are impossible to check and make a huge difference in lap times at same HP and pp because of the big increase in bottom end torque.

Well, the day of the first race is a bit late. Besides, cheating requires a conspiracy, since the tuner and both drivers (which may just be two people) have to decide to cheat together.

And what does cheating get you? If you need to win that badly, then you aren't the kind of person we are looking for.

And to repeat, Kaz is a dick. He could've very easily put this sort of stuff in the game. He didn't. To him, the point behind this game is to make the cars look as pretty as possible. He doesn't care at all about actual racing. He is such a complete idiot. I have to image he is completely talentless as a driver, too, and only get to race professionally because he has so much money others ignore is complete incompetence.

I am willing to put a HP limit on the room, but I can only limit it to 285 or 295. The car has 287 HP. It makes sense, then, to set it to 285 and force everyone to limit slightly. Mind you, they can still bolt on lots of parts and limit it lots more. See the above, Kaz is a dick.

Aside from that, we will be running 14 laps. And I'm concerned because that doesn't produce the tire wear I was hoping. So I think we will run different tires next seasons so tire wear is a bit more of an issue.

p.s. Yes, you can adjust aero, suspension, gearing, and if you want to install the LSD, that can be adjusted as well. You can adjust brake balance, and if you get success ballast, you may move it forward or backward.

 

[Oshawa-Joe]

It is not too late because we are only talking about allowing a couple of intake and exhaust parts that can be added even in a lobby. They are worth an easy .8 seconds. F1 teams have to submit their cars for testing. Pro athletes have to submit for testing. Trust no one.

 

[Wolfsatz]

Updated.

Zeromisfit and Wolfsatz, you two want to drive together, or you guys want to bring in other teammates?

Hey ZeroMisfit / LifeGamble, are you interested in forming a team?

If not... Ill pull out since I don't have a team.

 

[hillracing]

It is not too late because we are only talking about allowing a couple of intake and exhaust parts that can be added even in a lobby. They are worth an easy .8 seconds. F1 teams have to submit their cars for testing. Pro athletes have to submit for testing. Trust no one.

Does it change the pp from what it would be without it? If so why not limit the pp to what it would be with max aero and you can decide if you think torque or downforce will give you the most advantage.

 

[Vol Jbolaz]

It is not too late because we are only talking about allowing a couple of intake and exhaust parts that can be added even in a lobby. They are worth an easy .8 seconds. F1 teams have to submit their cars for testing. Pro athletes have to submit for testing. Trust no one.

Yes, and it would've been very simple for GT5 to implement parc ferme. Again, Kaz is a dick.

And yes, I could say, throw on all the parts so no one can cheat. But next season, I'm trying to have two (or more) different cars race against each other. They won't have the same parts, HP, or weight. So yes, we have to deal a bit with trust.

 

[Oshawa-Joe]

I've learned today that setting up regs to avoid cheating is actually easy to do. Don't allow what you verify and allow what you can't control. I found out ECU, turbo and engine upgrades are very easy to spot in replays.

 

[IceWarden]

If you are that concerned with cheating then this probably isn't the best series for you. A spec series with prohibited tuning might be best at that point. The only things we can control in races that are NOT tuning prohibited are PP, Tires, HP, Weight and the types of aids used during races if I remember correctly.

I believe that the people in this series are trustworthy. I think that if we feel someone is cheating then we are experienced enough drivers to know that, all things being equal, a driver should not be able to do certain things on the track in comparison to all the other drivers. I think the point is somewhat moot.

If you are inexperienced enough to need illegal advantages then you probably aren't good enough to last 14 laps against the best of us. Especially if your only advantages will be artificially increasing your torque by adding parts then detuning. The best drivers are trustworthy and known, reputable factors. We have all raced together fairly often and most of us know who we are faster than, and who is faster than us.

 

[Vol Jbolaz]

I've learned today that setting up regs to avoid cheating is actually easy to do. Don't allow what you verify and allow what you can't control. I found out ECU, turbo and engine upgrades are very easy to spot in replays.

But that means we always have run one-make races.

 

[Oshawa-Joe]

But that means we always have run one-make races.

Not at all.

Ice should go into politics. I'm not sure how gt5 racers/ snails became pillars of society.

 

[IceWarden]

LOL.

I always like to see both side...maybe a diplomat

The reason I say this is that I look at the driver's list so far and I have driven with just about everyone. It looks like we are all adults here with nothing really serious to gain. Especially considering some of us will get weight penalties to even it out.

I don't see anyone on the list who I feel I can't compete equally with. So if anyone really starts to drive a second per lap faster on a consistent basis then we have a problem...or a mistake was made

 

[Oshawa-Joe]

Or it was because of the awesomeness of my tune!

 

[IceWarden]

Or it was because of the awesomeness of my tune!

Adding awesome extra parts doesn't mean you can tune
Just funnin ya of course.

 

[Oshawa-Joe]

That just makes it extra awesome. This is my first real tune. Probably run like caca but I'm excited.

 

[spooble]

I'm excited as well. Hope I can hop on a little early tonight and get a few practice laps in.

 

[Vol Jbolaz]

Race starts in one hour. Good luck everyone.

Anyone that wants to watch the "box scores", you can follow along on the Google spreadsheet.

 

[zeromisfit999]

Hey ZeroMisfit / LifeGamble, are you interested in forming a team?

If not... Ill pull out since I don't have a team.

I just saw this now and it is very last minute, but if you want to race tonight I'm in, I do not know all the details though

 

[hillracing]

Well I'm really hoping the internet here works for tonight. So far its not to promising. I went through all the trouble of rearranging my hotel room and fixing the TV so i could plug in. It would be a shame to not get to race. Wish there was a Web site that listed how good the hotel internet was before you booked it.

 

[zeromisfit999]

I have a small question, are we only aloud to RM this car, or is it fully tuned with all parts?

 

[kcheeb]

I just saw this now and it is very last minute, but if you want to race tonight I'm in, I do not know all the details though

First post should have all the info. Nissan Silvia Spec-R Aero (S15) RM '02. no parts added other than RMing.

You can tune suspension though.

 

[zeromisfit999]

ok gotta get a new car and retune it quick, but I will try to make it in, in time

 

[kcheeb]

ok gotta get a new car and retune it quick, but I will try to make it in, in time

Do you have SNAIL_Division2 on your friends list?

 

[Vol Jbolaz]

Yes, just get the car, RM it. If you want, you can add the adjustable LSD. You don't need to add any other parts.

 

[zeromisfit999]

yes I do.