The GTP Rolex Sports Car Series- Brickyard Grand Prix! Finished!

polarbear345
For this race, the Audi may be quick. In the season, it will even out.

Audi will probably be slightly off pace at Indy due to the long full throttle parts. Its money is earned in the tight courses.
 
Audi will probably be slightly off pace at Indy due to the long full throttle parts. Its money is earned in the tight courses.

👍 I'm getting mid 1:34.xxx's with the Audi. Indy Road Course is not my favorite track, so someone solid should do a bit better with it.
 
Did a short A spec race with the Camaro, it understeers like its got a moose tied on its nose.

Which is ironic as its weight is rear bias.

Edit: Do you guys use rigidity improvement on your cars?
 
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grazbro
👍 I'm getting mid 1:34.xxx's with the Audi. Indy Road Course is not my favorite track, so someone solid should do a bit better with it.

I'll have to practice when I get back from the real Rolex 24.
 
I'll have to practice when I get back from the real Rolex 24.

Jealous. My dad and I had planned on going, his sister and her husband live less than an hour from there and we were gonna stay with them. Our work schedules didn't permit it though. :guilty:

Here are a few of my pics from the actual Brickyard GP this past summer, hope you don't mind me sharing.

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BrandonW77
Jealous. My dad and I had planned on going, his sister and her husband live less than an hour from there and we were gonna stay with them. Our work schedules didn't permit it though. :guilty:

Here are a few of my pics from the actual Brickyard GP this past summer, hope you don't mind me sharing.

Great pics. I'll be sure to post some here. I'll put the mother load on the grand am thread.
 
I watched qualifying from the first two pictures (I was literally 5 feet from each) and part of the race from the third!
 
Did a short A spec race with the Camaro, it understeers like its got a moose tied on its nose.

Which is ironic as its weight is rear bias.

Edit: Do you guys use rigidity improvement on your cars?

I've never done it to any cars. Since you can't undo it, I stay away. I could be wrong here, but I think that it would amplify the car's turning characteristics. In that, understeering cars would have more understeer to battle with and the same for oversteering cars turning too much...but again, I could be wrong there.

I also love those pics of Indy, I'm super jealous. I don't think any cars like that come to PIR in Oregon :(


Jerome
 
Feeling rather jealous looking at those pics! Definitely need to make a trip over to america at some point! Although I'll have to settle for Le Mans for now ;) oh and does anyone know if there's a way I'll be able to watch the Daytona 24 hours online live this weekend?
 
R0ssingt0n
Feeling rather jealous looking at those pics! Definitely need to make a trip over to america at some point! Although I'll have to settle for Le Mans for now ;) oh and does anyone know if there's a way I'll be able to watch the Daytona 24 hours online live this weekend?

Speed tv .com has a live stream overnight.
 
I tested these 3 cars and for the Vantage I could only get the weight down to 1,362kg.

I did roughtly 10-12 laps in each car with a nearly identical aero (max), settings, drivetrain (60/60/15), transmission (183 mph top speed) setup as each car behaved similarly.

458 Italia - 1:33.351

V12 Vantage - 1:33.406

Camaro SS - 1:33.281

All 3 cars were hovering within a .5 (or less) lap by lap. I'd say don't change a thing, they are about as equal as you can ask for (my 2 cents :)).

Jerome
About the same as what I was getting. Mind you, I think I had 10 kg on them with the same bhp as spec. Audi was 1:32.9 when I tested it.
 
Feeling rather jealous looking at those pics! Definitely need to make a trip over to america at some point! Although I'll have to settle for Le Mans for now ;) oh and does anyone know if there's a way I'll be able to watch the Daytona 24 hours online live this weekend?

The Speedway is awesome, Indy is a really nice (if small) metropolis, but the rest of Indiana is rather.............meh. So I wouldn't schedule your vacation for here just to see the Speedway. But if you happen to be passing through then you must see it, the size of it really can't be explained. Churchill Downs, Yankee Stadium, the Rose Bowl, the Roman Colosseum and Vatican City all can fit inside the IMS oval, which covers 253 acres and it is the world’s largest spectator sporting facility, with more than 250,000 permanent seats and a total capacity approaching 400,000. It also was the first circuit to coin the term "Super Speedway".

If you can get the speed.tv coverage I guarantee you won't have to pay for it, but it might only be available to people in the United States. You can always check out justin.tv too, people often stream sporting events and races on there (for free). 👍


Thank goodness a buddy sent me a level 12 ticket yesterday......gonna be a while before the R390 Street Car hits my dealership! :yuck:

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I'll check it out, thanks for telling me. Even if I do have to pay it should'nt be to much. I hope.

In the UK we have parts of it live on Motors TV (Sky 413). But there are free web streams online usualy too.

Edit: Checked Motors TV and on Saturday we have 8pm-4:10am live, then 2pm-9pm on Sunday.
 
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The Audi actually didn't do too bad, I had a pretty nice lap and lost .15 on that sharp right that leads to the long front straight. But honestly, I left about .1 or .2 when testing the other cars too.

4.2 Tronic - 1:33.642

I had to set the transmission to a top speed of 171 instead of 183 like the other cars as it didn't have the power to hit the limit by turn 1 (as expected). It would need to be increased something like 177 for the race. I also gave it a nearly identical tuning setup like the other cars. HTH.

Oh, I can give my tunes if anyone wants to try them out. You may want to decrease the rear RH a little. I also dialed my CSR E wheel's turning radius to 850 (from 900) degrees to help with turn in.

Jerome
 
The Audi actually didn't do too bad, I had a pretty nice lap and lost .15 on that sharp right that leads to the long front straight. But honestly, I left about .1 or .2 when testing the other cars too.

4.2 Tronic - 1:33.642

I had to set the transmission to a top speed of 171 instead of 183 like the other cars as it didn't have the power to hit the limit by turn 1 (as expected). It would need to be increased something like 177 for the race. I also gave it a nearly identical tuning setup like the other cars. HTH.

Oh, I can give my tunes if anyone wants to try them out. You may want to decrease the rear RH a little. I also dialed my CSR E wheel's turning radius to 850 (from 900) degrees to help with turn in.

Jerome

Are you using club sport pedals!? You've got a killer wheel!
 
Are you using club sport pedals!? You've got a killer wheel!

Thanks buddy! 👍 I have the CSR Elite pedals, they are pretty nice. I do wish the brake had some more travel to it, but I'm used to it now with the setting its on, so it doesn't matter. I'd say they far are better than the G25 pedals I used to have :)

The wheel is flippin' fantastic and really worth every penny. The CSR was a good, solid wheel too no complaints from it really. I only upgraded because my wife said its her B-Day/X-Mas gift to me. Was I gonna say no? No :P


Jerome
 
Jump_Ace
The Audi actually didn't do too bad, I had a pretty nice lap and lost .15 on that sharp right that leads to the long front straight. But honestly, I left about .1 or .2 when testing the other cars too.

4.2 Tronic - 1:33.642

I had to set the transmission to a top speed of 171 instead of 183 like the other cars as it didn't have the power to hit the limit by turn 1 (as expected). It would need to be increased something like 177 for the race. I also gave it a nearly identical tuning setup like the other cars. HTH.

Oh, I can give my tunes if anyone wants to try them out. You may want to decrease the rear RH a little. I also dialed my CSR E wheel's turning radius to 850 (from 900) degrees to help with turn in.

Jerome

G27 pedals are poor quality nonsense, so that is a good choice of pedals.

By the way, what settings are you running? From a short A spec session at GVS I'm actually running a stiffer rear spring but softer front damper on the Camaro.

LSD is at 14 18 18
 
For all the cars I tested, they are pretty close to this. I think on 1 of the cars I balanced the ext.+comp. to be the same front and rear. There may be a little too much oversteer if you were to put R3 tires on them for some other races, but for R2 tires it seems to work well:

Suspension:
-20/ -17
9.0/11.0 (ish)
5/6
2/3
4/5

Toe/Camber:
1.4/1.6
-.07/+.10

LSD:
60/60/15 (Audi - 60/60/15, 60/60/15)- I always find the car is easier to drive faster with the highest Torque and Accel. Sensitivity the car allows while exiting turns. I tried a couple cars at 15/15/15 but couldn't keep up with the ghost as easily. Some cars I can only put torque up to like 45, but just about every car I have A.S. @ 60 for my tunes.

Brakes:
6/5

Transmission:
183mph top speed


Jerome
 
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There's all you lot talking about your wheels... then there's me. With a DS3 thats held together with duct tape and has to be on charge pretty much all the time. I need a job!
 
:lol:

I hope you find a good job soon buddy! Racing games are so much more fun with a wheel, though they do have a long learning curve (for me at least).


Jerome
 
For all the cars I tested, they are pretty close to this. I think on 1 of the cars I balanced the ext.+comp. to be the same front and rear. There may be a little too much oversteer if you were to put R3 tires on them for some other races, but for R2 tires it seems to work well:

Suspension:
-20/ -17
9.0/11.0 (ish)
5/6
2/3
4/5

Toe/Camber:
1.4/1.6
-.07/+.10

LSD:
60/60/15 (Audi - 60/60/15, 60/60/15)- I always find the car is easier to drive faster with the highest Torque and Accel. Sensitivity the car allows while exiting turns. I tried a couple cars at 15/15/15 but couldn't keep up with the ghost as easily. Some cars I can only put torque up to like 45, but just about every car I have A.S. @ 60 for my tunes.

Brakes:
6/5

Transmission:
183mph top speed


Jerome
Our suspension tuning pattern seems similar except Im too noob to touch the ride height and toe. :P

For the differential Im scared to go too high on initial as I do not run abs. I did loosen it up to 14 from 8 and it seemed to erase understeer.

That was very brief test I did though, so cant confirm accuracy.
 
:lol:

I hope you find a good job soon buddy! Racing games are so much more fun with a wheel, though they do have a long learning curve (for me at least).


Jerome

Cheers mate, one should come around eventually, and I can imagine. I'll get one eventually.
 
Ross, I'm using a DS3 aswell, mate. It's ok. :)

Although, is it just me or is everyone using some insanely soft suspension settings? My tunes are pretty much 11 minimum on the front suspension alone, with 7's on the Dampers and 6 anti-roll. I like my cars to be rock steady it seems...
 
Nope I use setups clsoe to that but for lower grip tyre cars I adjust accordingly.

For the most part general stiffness doesn't make that much difference, atleast compared to the stiffness front to rear difference. I.e having 11.0 10.0 won't be much different to 7.0 6.0 etc, since the difference between the values are the same but the car will feel slightly different on kerbs etc though.

I tune at a general 7-10 on most things with the bias between front and rear suspension being more important.
 
Our suspension tuning pattern seems similar except Im too noob to touch the ride height and toe. :P

For the differential Im scared to go too high on initial as I do not run abs. I did loosen it up to 14 from 8 and it seemed to erase understeer.

That was very brief test I did though, so cant confirm accuracy.

I always run ABS 1, but ABS @ 0 is broken imo. Ever since that Nascar Special Event/License Test where you turn it off and suddenly you can get gold *eyeroll* Can't win 'em all I guess.


Jerome
 
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