The Rolex Sports Car Series- Season 3 Ideas!

Should we have Team Owners in Season 3?


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Fraser is RustyMercades?

Yeah Fraser is his psn. I predict most of the guys in Frasers series to be from stuff like TOCA etc tbh, with maybe a few PURE guys thrown in but just cause it has the PURE sanctioning doens't mean PURE guys will jump on it...

I can truely understand why your scared but I honestly don't see this affecting either series.
 
I don't quite understand Mel, if it was a joke it's flown over my head... Sorry :lol:
 
paulmac2k9
I don't quite understand Mel.

Neither do I...

But here's the million dollar question:

What do the Organizers of the other series think? What do the people near the top of PURE think?
 
I don't quite understand Mel.

I can't drive Formula GT cars well enough to compete. I can't throttle control enough with the DS3. So, I'm being the pace car. Even though I'm the co-founder of the sanctioning body sanctioning the FGTWC, I don't race in it. Instead, I'm in the race to save replays, solve arguments, and watch qualifying, while controlling safety car periods etc.

But, me driving a FGT car is the biggest joke in what I've written.
 
I can't drive Formula GT cars well enough to compete. I can't throttle control enough with the DS3. So, I'm being the pace car. Even though I'm the co-founder of the sanctioning body sanctioning the FGTWC, I don't race in it. Instead, I'm in the race to save replays, solve arguments, and watch qualifying, while controlling safety car periods etc.

Basically a steward?
 
Yeah Fraser is his psn. I predict most of the guys in Frasers series to be from stuff like TOCA etc tbh, with maybe a few PURE guys thrown in but just cause it has the PURE sanctioning doens't mean PURE guys will jump on it...

I can truely understand why your scared but I honestly don't see this affecting either series.

Frasier is a clean racer. I have raced with him before. I just am thinking that two series won't help either series attendance. What if I started a series the somewhat resembled GATE or LILOO. I am sure you guys wouldn't be happy.
 
Frasier is a clean racer. I have raced with him before. I just am thinking that two series won't help either series attendance. What if I started a series the somewhat resembled GATE or LILOO. I am sure you guys wouldn't be happy.

GATE is an Invite only series so nothing would change there. And LILOO is a sort of continuation of RTs FMSC in Litchis interpretation, LILOO has some of the best in it over 20 guys that all had a part in FMSC 👍. (Tony and Twissy are the main aliens in that)
 
Yeah Fraser is his psn. I predict most of the guys in Frasers series to be from stuff like TOCA etc tbh, with maybe a few PURE guys thrown in but just cause it has the PURE sanctioning doens't mean PURE guys will jump on it...

I can truly understand why your scared but I honestly don't see this affecting either series.

I'm pretty sure it's about interest. If someone looks for a Rolex Grand Am series and see the 2 threads next to each other, the decision the certain person takes is what affects either series. Will they go to the other series, or this series? Maybe they might choose us since we already have a season and a half (or 2 with the 3rd starting up) or will they choose the new one with the PURE sanctioning? If they can choose both that'd be GREAT but if they pick one it's a potential racer gone for us or gone for the other series.
 
Frasier is a clean racer. I have raced with him before. I just am thinking that two series won't help either series attendance. What if I started a series the somewhat resembled GATE or LILOO. I am sure you guys wouldn't be happy.

The W.M.A. was discussing the Super GT300/500, but, we would like to consider PURE's SGT series first.

I mean, certainly, perhaps we could work something out, in terms of an alternating season? Maybe PURE could run their RSCS in the winter season, before this Season III?
 
As I keep saying there is many series with similar format be it Touring cars or GT500s. Usualy all are a little different and all seem to function ok. There was over 5 GT500 series on GTP at one point each with different (Some similar) guys in each.

But this is getting quite offtopic now I have to say.
 
As I keep saying there is many series with similar format be it Touring cars or GT500s. Usualy all are a little different and all seem to function ok. There was over 5 GT500 series on GTP at one point each with different (Some similar) guys in each.

Yes. The W.M.A. SuperGT would be based off of South African SuperGT races, moreso than JGTC...


That's because NizmoDR3 (a South African) might run it.
 
So whats the problem :confused:. You could make that and it wouldn't impact on any other series, I'm fairly certain of that.
 
This isn't a WMA series!!!

This isn't the argument thread either!!!

Shall we have team owners in season 3?
 
The only team leaders that I have seen on GTP that was integral to a series was Sprint drivers owning Nationwide teams in the Nascar series. They choose their NW drivers and provide good setups for them to race on etc.
 
Couldn't it be up to the drivers? Or are team leaders job is to coral more players into the series?
 
EliteDreamer
Couldn't it be up to the drivers? Or are team leaders job is to coral more players into the series?

Drivers would have to agree to race for the person in charge of the team.

So if I had the Ferrari team, and I asked you to race for me, you could say yes, or no.

And team owners can race.
 
The W.M.A. was discussing the Super GT300/500, but, we would like to consider PURE's SGT series first.

I mean, certainly, perhaps we could work something out, in terms of an alternating season? Maybe PURE could run their RSCS in the winter season, before this Season III?

Maybe we alter our starting times to be more welcoming towards people from places other than the U.S. I can modify my schedule a little bit on Saturdays.
 
Couldn't it be up to the drivers? Or are team leaders job is to coral more players into the series?

James did that quite well. Of course, that's about all that he did, but, he did that well.


Also, Polar, I'm discussing that it's sorta like someone might have "territory" on a series, and showing that I respect PURE's territory with the SuperGT stuff. You're right, that this isn't W.M.A., but, I'm coming up with ideas to work it out anyways. For example; if PURE's SuperGT season ends, that's when the W.M.A. SuperGT season will open.
 
First of all, huge thanks to Paul for the points he's bringing up, you're a great guy. No need to stick your neck out like that for us, but we totally appreciate it.

Guys. This is racing - what happened to, "let the best man win"?
Grand-Am, Rolex, FIA, etc. Belongs to no one. Pure has had tons of people trying to blantanly copy entire OP's from us, what did we do? Just let them fail if you really know what you're doing is better, because doing anything else belittles us and puts us in a light we don't need to be in. Remember*What competition was good for? To make each other better and not settle for less!

In fact, asking us to step down from creating anything goes against the very most important ideal a community should hold, progress.

Pure doesn't attract our drivers only because of a name. We worked hard for our reputation and respect each and every one else that has a passion for what we do. That's why I wanted to join Rolex in the first place, not to "check you guys out" but just because a series this dedicated is the only grounds for what I consider a good one, and you have it. And you will attract more drivers, and I'm sure some will come to Rusty's Grand-Am series as well, as long as he puts the work in with our support. Both series can be successful, there's absolutely no reason at all to think Pure is better, we may be more serious or strict (that's just our style), but the dedication, as I see it, is the same all around between us. So why not embrace it and let every one race in peace?

I have no ill will against anyone, trust me. In my perfect world, all series would succeed, that's all that Pure wants. To make sim racing bigger, not to live in some ego bubble and just call it a day. And you guys kept talking about the Grand-Am series like it was "a Pure series," no; there's only been two Pure series, JGTS, and GATE, that's it. The rest are just series our members created, sanctioned by Pure. We're a sanctioning body committed to making quality sim racing more easily available to all, so please don't try and stand in the way of that.

Rather, why don't we both continue on our respective paths, even get together and discuss our ideas sometime, "hey, that race weekend you had last weekend was interesting, how did you solve the gridding problem" "oh it was easy, we just did this and that" "awesome, I might try it myself" *"cool, good luck man, let me know how it goes"

That is how our conversations with competing racing leagues using the same cars or racing series go 90% of the time. This has been the only exception.

P.S. I noticed people bringing up the Daytona 2.4 HRS spot race Dr_Watson did a while back. Someone said that we had intended to turn the concept into a fully fledged series. Well we did, it's called "CALM"
 
It'd be more uniform if it was all or nothing. I'd allow team owners to race, so essentially, its like not having one.

But the problem with team owners is if you allow them to race, we have 5 cars in GT, 3 in DP. That means we'll need 8 extra slots for the team owners to race. That's even if we get a big grid, and what if some teams don't have a team owner? Do team owners' points count in their team's points? Wouldn't that be unfair to teams with 1-2 drivers? And that's if your team owner actually manages your team, what if the team owner signs up for a team owner position and essentially does nothing? I think team owners isn't a good idea. 2 drivers = a team. The drivers could make logos, post stories, etc. and manage themselves.
 
ghskilla
But the problem with team owners is if you allow them to race, we have 5 cars in GT, 3 in DP. That means we'll need 8 extra slots for the team owners to race. That's even if we get a big grid, and what if some teams don't have a team owner? Do team owners' points count in their team's points? Wouldn't that be unfair to teams with 1-2 drivers? And that's if your team owner actually manages your team, what if the team owner signs up for a team owner position and essentially does nothing? I think team owners isn't a good idea. 2 drivers = a team. The drivers could make logos, post stories, etc. and manage themselves.

First, Wardez, thanks for the inspirational post! It's 3 am where I am.... So "that" part of my mind is working now... If ya know what I mean....

I think you're making it too hard GHS. If a team owner races, they'd be one of the two drivers.

Example:

I'm a team owner and I want to race it'd look like this-

Team owner: polar

Driver 1: polar

Driver 2: Ghs

If I'm the team owner and don't wish to race it'd look like this:

Team owner- polar

Driver 1- GHS

Driver 2- *other drivers name*

Make more sense now?
 
The drivers could make logos, post stories, etc. and manage themselves.

Best idea.


Wardez, we're just worried that we'll lose interest to you. That's what I've been saying the entire time.


The W.M.A. does the same thing, but, we try to create the series that no one else is running. We've only made one series which existed beforehand. After the fall of the VDC (Virtual Drift Competition,) we "replaced" it, with the D1SL. That doesn't take interest away from anyone else, as I'm pretty sure that it's the only full-fledged drift competition that currently exists.


This is just our point: Please don't take our guys away.
 
First of all thanks Wardez for sharing your opinion; however, as we all know, this isn't a perfect world. We don't like having to compete for spots. I thought you were signed up for our series? I guess getting called up to Silverstone takes precedent to that 👍
 
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