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It's the worst since Australia 2008, which had 7 finishers, which isn't bad going.
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It's the worst since Australia 2008, which had 7 finishers, which isn't bad going.
dhandeh
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Brake failure anywhere is a scary prospect. Having an extra ten foot of kerb would mean that all drivers wouldn't be able to rejoin at a faster speed than those who took the corner legitimately.
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I'm not saying he intentionally braked late to cut the corner, he made the mistake and chose to capitalize on that by nailing the throttle to go flat out and gain time over the final corner. Desperate.
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Leave a high grip surface there, but put a chicane made of very, very soft barriers. That should suffice.
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Beyond all of this, though, I must say, Nico did an excellent job of bringing that car home, problems and all. Bit lucky Perez was there to hold everyone up till the end. If it was just Nico, the Red Bulls and the Williamses, he wouldn't have been on that podium.
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Beyond all of this, though, I must say, Nico did an excellent job of bringing that car home, problems and all. Bit lucky Perez was there to hold everyone up till the end. If it was just Nico, the Red Bulls and the Williamses, he wouldn't have been on that podium.
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Not everyone, certain members. Certain names I see often doing the same thing. Not just this season.See, the way you respond to this controversy is that everyone is jumping on Nico because they're pro-Hamilton. Which is not true. We're all pro-Ricciardo.
Few of us are jumping on the first lap incident (and I don't mind it at all), because it is a completely unenforceable action that is not penalized by the rules.
My beef with this one is that the rules state it is illegal, but don't provide a concrete penalty for it or a realistic mechanic for how a driver gives back an advantage when they were ahead in the first place. Which means: Either the rules should be revised or a penalty should be devised for it. A one second penalty to be served in the pits seems about right. Five is too long (and I tweeted that it was good the stewards didn't give him the five second penalty... I wanted this race settled on the track, not in the steward's office). Or they could just fix that damn chicane.
What it all boils down to is this: Nico exploited gray areas in the rules. Twice in a race. Something which has you hot and bothered when his team-mate does it. So why are you not hot and bothered when Nico does it?
That he locked up and had to go on the run-off is evident. That he took the run-off at race pace, instead of doing the sportsmanlike thing and ceding position like a gentleman, or maybe just slowing down to make sure he didn't cause a collision when rejoining (and an unsafe return to track is also worth a penalty) is also evident. So where's the righteous anger at that?
Remember what I said before about being hungry? About doing everything you can to win? Appears that Nico is doing just that, right now.
As for the "rules" argument, I touched on that before remember? The rules don't mean ****. You can quote them all day long, there's many that aren't enforced. When they are, in some cases, they just give a reprimand/warning. Like they did with Schumacher during a practice session at Spain when he went to the old part of the track to bump into Hamilton and angirly wave at him. That broke so many rules. Guess what he got? A reprimand. Same with Nico. The rules were technically applied. Rosberg was punished.
If you have a problem with sportsmanship, I replied to that. It's only unsportsmanlike like if he did it on purpose. He had to go full throttle in the run off because he wasn't sure how much time he lost. Once he was back on, he probably saw Hamilton not far behind so why lift off and waste time for both? Hamilton would only sniff more dirty air that way. Pointless to slow down, and unfair to give him the position because he was still ahead when he locked up.
Should I report you for trolling? Or are you seriously suggesting (again) I made that claim?Sigh... your claim that Nico didn't set fastest lap on that cut. Do keep up dear
Keep up the good work.
When I said you lack English, I wasn't trying to insult you. Or was it the other guy? Anyway:
If that's not accusing him of premeditated foul, I don't know what is.
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Someone at NBC made a little mistake with who is at what team, and where it is.
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And race.Someone at NBC made a little mistake with who is at what team.
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Any last tiny microbe of respect I may have had for you just went out the window. What are you, like, 5 years old?Report everyone. Go ahead. I think we're going to be OK. We're not the ones going around insulting people and generally being combative.
This thread has become a silly place.
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How did I know after watching that race, that when I come to this thread people will be arguing about pointless things... AGAIN 
Anyway, what a race! Truly fantastic with the Merc problems spicing everything up around mid-distance. Shame about Massa and Perez though.
Anyway, what a race! Truly fantastic with the Merc problems spicing everything up around mid-distance. Shame about Massa and Perez though.
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When you go off track, racing etiquette and sportsmanship dictate that you are not supposed to maintain speed. If someone is ahead when they go onto runoff, which is supposed to slow them down, they should be slower when they rejoin. Nico was not. That Nico managed to find a clean line inside of the barriers meant to slow him down was an anomaly. And an unfair advantage. And unsportsmanlike.
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Again, I agree that there's no suitable penalty for that. And I'm glad none was given. But to say that you have to go full throttle after going off? Uh... no. You're supposed to slow down, spot a gap in traffic, and rejoin.
Supposed to... but not required to. I expect, after that, if it were Hamilton, a clarification would be issued that you are required to show, in the telemetry, that you are not applying more than 50% throttle in the runoff. As it isn't, they probably won't do anything of the sort.
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Come on Rosberg!!!
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Come on Rosberg!!!
BHRxRacer
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The irony is strong with this one. Here's a post of mine from a while ago:
Report everyone. Go ahead. I think we're going to be OK. We're not the ones going around insulting people and generally being combative.
This thread has become a silly place.
Yup. I'm the 5 year old taking things out of context deliberately, insisting on it then reporting the guy in question. I think I'm a 5 year old for even bothering with this ****.
You can maintain speed if it doesn't change the positions. Especially this year, since locking up has little to do with the driver anymore. The brake by wire system interferes often like it does with Sauber. It's not necessarily your mistake, and you don't have to pay for it. Had Rosberg not locked up and gone off, NOTHING would've changed in the race. I can only assume he realized that, and it's why he just continued on when he saw Lewis still behind him.When you go off track, racing etiquette and sportsmanship dictate that you are not supposed to maintain speed. If someone is ahead when they go onto runoff, which is supposed to slow them down, they should be slower when they rejoin. Nico was not. That Nico managed to find a clean line inside of the barriers meant to slow him down was an anomaly. And an unfair advantage. And unsportsmanlike.
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Again, I agree that there's no suitable penalty for that. And I'm glad none was given. But to say that you have to go full throttle after going off? Uh... no. You're supposed to slow down, spot a gap in traffic, and rejoin.
Supposed to... but not required to. I expect, after that, if it were Hamilton, a clarification would be issued that you are required to show, in the telemetry, that you are not applying more than 50% throttle in the runoff. As it isn't, they probably won't do anything of the sort.
I do agree on clarifications in situations like this but it won't be the only thing.
Chilton given three place grid drop for Austria.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2014/6/15935.html
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2014/6/15935.html
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A great race with the exception of the 1st lap and last lap crashes. One question, what the hell was with the one cameraman filming at the crowd after the cars and what the hell with the director choosing the crowd reaction cameras when Mercedes were battling it out. Completely unnecessary.
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Great race today, shame the second group couldn't catch up to Rosberg, I was hoping for an 8-way battle for the lead (would of been 9 with Button).
Vettel had quite the mix of good and bad luck today, after losing his comfortable position of best of the rest and what could of been a win after being stuck behind the Force India's, he was then lucky to get any points at all after almost being wiped out on the last lap.
Was really surprised to see Button in 4th after hearing almost nothing about him all race (partly because whoever was in charge of the camera's had no idea what they were doing).
Rosberg was lucky to get away with no penalty after forcing Hamilton off track at T1 (although wasn't too bothered about that because Hamilton did the same at Bahrain), and then gaining 6 tenths after cutting the track, but I don't know why I expect the stewards to do anything, they never do.
Unlucky for Massa and Perez on the last lap, think it was a racing incident, although it's hard to tell from the camera angles I've seen. Perez seemed to brake early and move a few inches left, but Massa didn't anticipate it and was running a bit too close.
Vettel had quite the mix of good and bad luck today, after losing his comfortable position of best of the rest and what could of been a win after being stuck behind the Force India's, he was then lucky to get any points at all after almost being wiped out on the last lap.
Was really surprised to see Button in 4th after hearing almost nothing about him all race (partly because whoever was in charge of the camera's had no idea what they were doing
).Rosberg was lucky to get away with no penalty after forcing Hamilton off track at T1 (although wasn't too bothered about that because Hamilton did the same at Bahrain), and then gaining 6 tenths after cutting the track, but I don't know why I expect the stewards to do anything, they never do.
Unlucky for Massa and Perez on the last lap, think it was a racing incident, although it's hard to tell from the camera angles I've seen. Perez seemed to brake early and move a few inches left, but Massa didn't anticipate it and was running a bit too close.
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I actually didn't catch that the first time.
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Report everyone. Go ahead. I think we're going to be OK. We're not the ones going around insulting people and generally being combative.
This thread has become a silly place.
So has nearly every other F1 related thread this year because of him.
That wasn't his point as pointed out, and NBCSN always make these mistakes ever since they've been given the role after Speed died and Fox didn't win the bid again.
Wrong GP and wrong drivers for the teams they're supposedly racing for...just another GP on NBCSN.
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Perez is getting a 5 place grid drop for causing a collision with Massa.
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Came here to post just that. Absolute BS
.Seriously, what the huck is wrong with you FIA?
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