600PP 4WD Non-Racing Car & Tuned Car Super Lap: Mount Panorama
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I know, but what's the point?
I never said that using AS is cheating.
You called Kilou the "best french player" and i'm sure he would be able to get into the top10
without AS.
But for me all players who don't use AS are better players than those who use it, no matter what time they have achieved.
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- United States
- mr_rainmaker777
smoked a controller(DS3) the other day and had to go get another(DS3)kinda getting used to it,L stick is moved up and its taking some getting used to but,I know this don`t count as its TT myself offline...
But it still feels pretty cool though
2:01.357
thanks to all the tunes here
But it still feels pretty cool though
2:01.357 thanks to all the tunes here
- 305
- Australia
- JoelH1965
Use AS, Don't use AS use traction 1 and ABS on any level you like or don't.All ok and legal. Quite simple really the better player has the best time, just go and and beat it any way you can within the rules, your choice.
- 83
- Canada
- Daveisonfire
I'm down to a 1.58.242...
...nothing special, but I did notice something: In order to get @HansDampf's tune to work I had to turn down my force feedback to stop the DFGT from getting clunky over the bumps, which severely affected the car's rotation.
If any DFGT users are having the same issue, try Max Torque 1 and Sensitivity 5.
Edit: This is without AS
...nothing special, but I did notice something: In order to get @HansDampf's tune to work I had to turn down my force feedback to stop the DFGT from getting clunky over the bumps, which severely affected the car's rotation.
If any DFGT users are having the same issue, try Max Torque 1 and Sensitivity 5.
Edit: This is without AS
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- Melbourne
- 13
- France
- stephanecy
His PSN-ID shows a french flag.
Zinedine Zidane was playing for France but is from Algeria i think.
I know, but what's the point?
I never said that using AS is cheating.
You called Kilou the "best french player" and i'm sure he would be able to get into the top10
without AS.
But for me all players who don't use AS are better players than those who use it, no matter what time they have achieved.
Interesting debate:
ABS, Power Steering Option, and Active Steering are all driver aids, I suspect all top ranked drivers use the first two aid options. Active steering is not necessarily "faster" as turning is harder (or hampered) but does increase stability on corner exits. I would suggest set up is easily the largest contributor to fast lap times and a good set up can often equate to Active Steering being a "slower" option. Also drivers use a myriad of differing quality wheels which have a myriad of settings along with differing pedal quality. Also there is cockpit vs no cockpit, and even TV quality.
P.S. DS3 drivers are the aliens!! How on earth they do the times they do is incredible to me, I can't even get round 1 corner, lol.
Right, if you setup your car without AS and than switch to AS: strong all you get is understeering.
You need to use a setup that provides a lot more rotation to use the full advantage of AS.
AS keeps your car from sliding under braking and gives you more grip under acceleration.
With AS: strong it requires a lot less driving skills to finish a fast lap than without the aid.
With a DS3 you can do everything a wheel user can do, except the limited steering angle,
but that's just sometimes a problem.
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- Kissimmee, Florida
- wedjim
Great going 👍
Hmm, good if I could say the same for myself....been stuck on 2:00.496 for a few days now....lucky to break 2:01 at the moment. Will try again when the frustration eases
I have tried several set ups, all netted similar lap times. But my best laps are with a Frankenstein version of the same tune Kossie uses. But I removed rear downforce, softer front sway bar, softer front springs, stiffer front shock extension and a higher rear axle ratio to get closer to the redline at the end of the long straight.
I use a DS3 with abs 1 and no other aids. I think I could pick up another .75-1 second if I need to...depends on if I stay in the top 500 or not.
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- United Kingdom
- bone_tone
I've got 3 different tunes, and they all produce an identical lap time - as per usual, the limiting factor is me!I have tried several set ups, all netted similar lap times. But my best laps are with a Frankenstein version of the same tune Kossie uses. But I removed rear downforce, softer front sway bar, softer front springs, stiffer front shock extension and a higher rear axle ratio to get closer to the redline at the end of the long straight.
I use a DS3 with abs 1 and no other aids. I think I could pick up another .75-1 second if I need to...depends on if I stay in the top 500 or not.
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- France
- stephanecy
Ah yes Zidane was born in France, his parents moved there from Algeria.
I think you can choose every flag you want for your PSN-ID.
Well I believe I'm probably done with this one boys.Got a 1:56.9xx yesterday and did it without active steering just for Mr.Ed
Well done mate. 👍
You didn't do it for me, you did it for yourself. It will improve your skills and it makes you a better driver.
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- Netherlands
- bernies123
You most start a seasonal TT without AS. Drive a week whith that and then turn it on. Youre time will improve i think? This little thinks are helps the best(people they use AS) ? Other things you can try is take a very fast car(red bull, tjappie,tomahawk) and drive the track, Then take the best car for the tt on the same track.
Other things are the set up and driving skills, Learn to brake etc...
Fun game!
👍
Other things are the set up and driving skills, Learn to brake etc...
Fun game!
👍
- 398
- Maitland, NSW
- TRL_beau
Active steering also helps them cars a lot as well as i lost my chance for my 4th world record as a guy from italy use active steering he could use such less downforce he could corner fast as me but he was 15kmh faster on the stright.You most start a seasonal TT without AS. Drive a week whith that and then turn it on. Youre time will improve i think? This little thinks are helps the best(people they use AS) ? Other things you can try is take a very fast car(red bull, tjappie,tomahawk) and drive the track, Then take the best car for the tt on the same track.
Other things are the set up and driving skills, Learn to brake etc...
Fun game!
- 448
- Melbourne
I have tried several set ups, all netted similar lap times. But my best laps are with a Frankenstein version of the same tune Kossie uses. But I removed rear downforce, softer front sway bar, softer front springs, stiffer front shock extension and a higher rear axle ratio to get closer to the redline at the end of the long straight.
I use a DS3 with abs 1 and no other aids. I think I could pick up another .75-1 second if I need to...depends on if I stay in the top 500 or not.
I've tried all posted setups here. My best time came with @GT_Rajman's tune with an altered brake balance (7/6). Came close with the @HansDampf setup and with v8_pursuit's version of @GT_Rajman's tune a couple of tenths further back. In all, the times were relatively close. Think I might mess with @GT_Rajman's tune a little to see if that helps my style. But really, I need to work on my lines. Also I need to ignore my ghost more because if I am in front of it coming down through the esses I can get jittery and lose a hard fought lead
I use DS3 with ABS 1 and TC 1 only to start a session then drop to TC 0 once I'm settled in.....if I remember
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OK you have set me a challenge
I have hit a brick wall at 1.56.022 with AS. I will attempt to set the car up with no AS and try and crack the 1.56 barrier with the no AS set up. 💡
1.55.941 without Active Steering.
Well as I suspected no Active steering happens to be faster in this TT. With adjustments to downforce, drivetrain and toe for stability the car turns easier, and importantly speeds up the two most important corners at Bathurst.
I don't think I magically became a better driver worthy of more respect because of using no active steering as others continually state. Active Steering is a setting with advantages and disadvantages. It simply requires less time for me to set a car up with A.S. because of the stability, often though A.S. affects corner speed as it does here, which makes me slower.
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